It’s time for Russia to reshape plans for Arctic shelf, says Deputy Premier
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Arctic rush
owais.usmani- Posts : 1825
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2019/08/its-time-russia-reshape-plans-arctic-shelf-says-deputy-premier
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Greenland row is ‘signal to China, Russia’
Trump girding up for battle for control of the Arctic, expert says
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/greenland-row-is-signal-to-china-russia/
Trump girding up for battle for control of the Arctic, expert says
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/greenland-row-is-signal-to-china-russia/
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Greenland row is ‘signal to China, Russia’
Trump girding up for battle for control of the Arctic, expert says
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/article/greenland-row-is-signal-to-china-russia/
How is Greenland going to allow the yanquis to control the Arctic? Aside for some minor oil and gas deposits there is
not way that the North-East passage hugging the Russian coast can be controlled from Greenland. May as well use Alaska
for that.
Stationing ABM systems in Greenland is an additional bonus for the yanquis, but this would be exo-atmospheric interception
and would have nothing to do with controlling the Arctic.
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Denmark claims that the shelf area around the North Pole is connected to her Greenland. If the island becomes a US territory, it will enable the latter to claim the shelf at least close/up to the North Pole.
The US & Russia will then end up dividing the Arctic Ocean, so no1 country can call it its lake, & Eurasia is encircled with US bases.
The US & Russia will then end up dividing the Arctic Ocean, so no1 country can call it its lake, & Eurasia is encircled with US bases.
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kvs- Posts : 15857
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Russia never claimed any area surrounding the North Pole. By fair division it only claimed shelf extension that terminated at the North Pole
in sectors. The Arctic Sea was never going to be like the Sea of Okhotsk so it does not make any difference if the US owns Greenland or
not. It has all the naval bases it needs. It also already uses Greenland to host its early warning radar in Thule.
in sectors. The Arctic Sea was never going to be like the Sea of Okhotsk so it does not make any difference if the US owns Greenland or
not. It has all the naval bases it needs. It also already uses Greenland to host its early warning radar in Thule.
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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The US corporations want a free reign in resource rich Greenland; the Pentagon wants to have a better position in the Arctic & prevent China from getting any foothold there- she bailed out Iceland just a few years ago. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/heres-why-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland.html
Besides, owning Greenland will put more pressure on Ottawa to open up its NW Passage that US insists is an international strait, otherwise the Canadian Inuits may later decide in a US sponsored referendum to join their Alaskan & Greenlandic brothers under the American flag. Canada can't even afford the navy that can patrol there.
Besides, owning Greenland will put more pressure on Ottawa to open up its NW Passage that US insists is an international strait, otherwise the Canadian Inuits may later decide in a US sponsored referendum to join their Alaskan & Greenlandic brothers under the American flag. Canada can't even afford the navy that can patrol there.
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There are rare earth minerals in Greenland supposedly that the US wants, so part of the plan will involve strip mining...
The huge irony is that the US probably has more claim to the arctic than the antarctic, which they do anyway...
They will need to expand their ice breaker fleet of course.
The huge irony is that the US probably has more claim to the arctic than the antarctic, which they do anyway...
They will need to expand their ice breaker fleet of course.
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the US has no formal Antarctic claims like some others have, only scientific stations at McMurdo & the Amundsen–Scott S. Pole.The huge irony is that the US probably has more claim to the arctic than the antarctic, which they do anyway...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station
Its central location + the UK, French, Australian & NZ claims can later be used against other claimants.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/22/753192368/fact-check-did-harry-truman-really-try-to-buy-greenland-back-in-the-day
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The battle for Greenland is entering a new phase: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2701842.html
Once the US gets it, they'll be only 290 km, 180 mi from Iceland, also former Danish colony & a European Nordic country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Geography
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/opinion/trump-greenland-and-the-china-threat/
In Greenland, a deputy called on fellow citizens to consider the idea of selling the island
https://rg.ru/2019/08/31/v-grenlandii-deputat-prizval-sograzhdan-rassmotret-ideiu-prodazhi-ostrova.html
Once the US gets it, they'll be only 290 km, 180 mi from Iceland, also former Danish colony & a European Nordic country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Geography
https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/08/opinion/trump-greenland-and-the-china-threat/
In Greenland, a deputy called on fellow citizens to consider the idea of selling the island
https://rg.ru/2019/08/31/v-grenlandii-deputat-prizval-sograzhdan-rassmotret-ideiu-prodazhi-ostrova.html
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic-industry-and-energy/2019/09/india-looks-towards-russian-arctic
India looks towards Russian Arctic
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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1 day they may build an icebreaker for research in the Arctic & the Antarctic. https://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/india-to-acquire-icebreaker-for-polar-exploration_852366.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himadri_Station
‘Snow Dragon 2’ poised for maiden voyage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himadri_Station
‘Snow Dragon 2’ poised for maiden voyage
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How Trump will try to bend the Danes and bring down the dollar
https://iz.ru/891363/olga-kolentcova/led-i-plany-v-arktiku-otpravitsia-rossiisko-kitaiskaia-ekspeditciia
Nuclear lighter carrier Sevmorput sailed via the NSR from Kamchatka for 18 days & is now moored in St. Petersburg: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2719441.html
https://iz.ru/891363/olga-kolentcova/led-i-plany-v-arktiku-otpravitsia-rossiisko-kitaiskaia-ekspeditciia
Nuclear lighter carrier Sevmorput sailed via the NSR from Kamchatka for 18 days & is now moored in St. Petersburg: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2719441.html
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Lomonosov arrived in Pevek and is parked on site
Land infrastructure is ready as well
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I hope there is an airport close to the site so that Greenpiss can fly in and protest against this Evil nuclear power plant.
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5960
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Only in Alaska, but they r not welcome there.
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There is an opportunity... tell the Americans you are from Greenpeace and that you are planning to raid the NPP and spray paint slogans on it and hang anti nuke murals from its sides and then photograph it to embarrass the Ruskies... ask them for funding... paint and people and resources don't come cheap and then when they hand over the cheque go for a nice holiday in some tropical region and release recordings of US officials offering to fund your alleged activities.
Hell, you could even be mad enough to go ahead and break in to a US NPP and do it there... and release the recordings if there is any backlash from the US for doing it to them... showing that they endorsed it and paid for it would be really amusing....
Hell, you could even be mad enough to go ahead and break in to a US NPP and do it there... and release the recordings if there is any backlash from the US for doing it to them... showing that they endorsed it and paid for it would be really amusing....
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They won't be allowed in Russia, not anywhere close to Chukotka- years ago their boat was impounded by the Border Guard near the Novaya Zemlya nuclear testing site & all personnel was kicked out of the country.
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2019/09/big-growth-russian-arctic-ports
Big growth in Russian Arctic ports
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Well the opening of the north sea route means roads and rail connections can be expanded from ports and airfields as well as cross the entire country... over time they will expand and become more interconnected and make the transfer of goods easier and cheaper.
Some tiny settlement in the middle of Siberia does not need to wait until a road is built from Moscow or the Far East... roads or rails north to the nearest port would be just as useful a communications and transport link.
Some tiny settlement in the middle of Siberia does not need to wait until a road is built from Moscow or the Far East... roads or rails north to the nearest port would be just as useful a communications and transport link.
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Read the BS "news" coverage of this development process in the Russian Arctic and you will see sour grapes, loser jealousy in action.
Supposedly Russia is "claiming" the Arctic. 1984 called and Big Brother wants his newspeak back. According to the USGS itself,
most of the oil and gas deposits in the Arctic are within Russia's EEZ for obvious geological reasons (i.e. the Siberian shelf is
only 50 meters below the surface and is composed of sedimentary rock and thus has fossil carbon deposits, the rest of the Arctic basin
including the north pole and the Canadian Archipelago is metamorphosed sedimentary and igneous which do not have such deposits).
The yanquis actually think they will be patrolling the North East passage with their one rust bucket ice breaker. The yanquis
are demented clowns and all their trash talk aimed at Russia is vapid, bile-filled hate. The yanquis are planning to deploy their
ABM ships in a chain along Russia's coast. Russia should start sinking these platforms the minute they show. Find a pretext and
use it. The yanquis are a paper tiger that needs gullible saps to fear it. Through this fear they stake out turf and project
their power. Standing up to the yanqui bullies produces results, for example in Syria. Russia forced both Obummer and Trumpy to
back off from their regime change operation against the elected Syrian government. Back in 2013 when Russia deployed its navy to
the Mediterranean it was unthinkable that anyone could stand up to the yanqui "hyperpower".
Supposedly Russia is "claiming" the Arctic. 1984 called and Big Brother wants his newspeak back. According to the USGS itself,
most of the oil and gas deposits in the Arctic are within Russia's EEZ for obvious geological reasons (i.e. the Siberian shelf is
only 50 meters below the surface and is composed of sedimentary rock and thus has fossil carbon deposits, the rest of the Arctic basin
including the north pole and the Canadian Archipelago is metamorphosed sedimentary and igneous which do not have such deposits).
The yanquis actually think they will be patrolling the North East passage with their one rust bucket ice breaker. The yanquis
are demented clowns and all their trash talk aimed at Russia is vapid, bile-filled hate. The yanquis are planning to deploy their
ABM ships in a chain along Russia's coast. Russia should start sinking these platforms the minute they show. Find a pretext and
use it. The yanquis are a paper tiger that needs gullible saps to fear it. Through this fear they stake out turf and project
their power. Standing up to the yanqui bullies produces results, for example in Syria. Russia forced both Obummer and Trumpy to
back off from their regime change operation against the elected Syrian government. Back in 2013 when Russia deployed its navy to
the Mediterranean it was unthinkable that anyone could stand up to the yanqui "hyperpower".
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https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic-travel/2019/09/national-park-leader-eyes-mass-tourism-russian-arctic-calls-visa-free-regime
National park leader eyes big tourism to Russian Arctic, calls for visa-free regime at Franz Josef Land
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https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/124884/
Although this article is more for oil and gas tread, it is important for Arctic section as well. Omsk oil rafinery received new domestic reactors for new oil line to produce winter and arctic diesel marks. This new line will be finnished in 2020 and will produce around 2,5 millions tons of winter and arctic oil. This is quite important for Russian activities in Arctic region.
Омский НПЗ «Газпром нефти» получил современное оборудование для комплекса гидроочистки и депарафинизации дизельного топлива. Высокотехнологичные аппараты изготовлены специалистами «Волгограднефтемаш». В числе поставленного оборудования ключевые элементы будущего комплекса: реакционные аппараты гидроочистки и депарафинизации, а также сепаратор высокого давления.
Новый комплекс производительностью 2,5 млн т по сырью позволит Омскому НПЗ в 2 раза повысить объемы выпуска востребованных на рынке зимних и арктических марок дизельного топлива. Инвестиции Газпром нефти в строительство комплекса составляют 17,5 млрд рублей.
Запуск нового комплекса в 2020 г. позволит вывести из эксплуатации 2 технологические установки прошлого поколения и снизит общее воздействие на окружающую среду.Строительство комплекса входит в план реализации федерального проекта «Чистый воздух» и идет в рамках программы развития Омского НПЗ с общим объемом инвестиций 300 млрд рублей, которую Газпром нефть продолжает с 2008 г.
Although this article is more for oil and gas tread, it is important for Arctic section as well. Omsk oil rafinery received new domestic reactors for new oil line to produce winter and arctic diesel marks. This new line will be finnished in 2020 and will produce around 2,5 millions tons of winter and arctic oil. This is quite important for Russian activities in Arctic region.
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Iceland considering to take part in the development of the NSR (Nth Sea Route)...the article suggests, it could lead to the sidelining of Norway which has taken a hostile stance towards the NSR
The readiness of Iceland to engage in capacity development of the Northern sea route gives Russia new opportunities...
On the background of the active work of the Russian leadership on the development of Arctic infrastructure to increase cargo traffic on the Northern sea route (NSR), one can observe a growing interest of foreign countries to the use of this promising marine international route. Thus, the article by TASS, citing the Ambassador of Iceland in Moscow Berglind Asgeirsdottir noted that the leadership of that foreign state "explores the possibility of building a major international port in the North-East of the island, which could be integrated into the structure of the Northern sea route and benefit from this project."...
https://newinform.com/193030-partner-rf-grozit-ostavit-norvegiyu-na-obochine-sevmorputi?utm_source=finobzor.ru
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I wouldn't say Norway is hostile, nor Sweden and Finland - to the NSR.
The Swedes are already planning to build a railway to Norway so that they can export iron ore to Asia via the NSR.
The Swedes are already planning to build a railway to Norway so that they can export iron ore to Asia via the NSR.
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flamming_python wrote:I wouldn't say Norway is hostile, nor Sweden and Finland - to the NSR.
The Swedes are already planning to build a railway to Norway so that they can export iron ore to Asia via the NSR.
Not hostile? Those Nor-wedgies sank their own ship and blamed Russia for it...that's the type of bullshit you hear from the Ukrembiciles!