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Political, security and economic developments in Central Asia
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Uzbekistan has always been the most hostile of the ex Soviet stans. Uzbekistan withdrew from CSTO in 2012.
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Kyrgyz National Guard battalion deployed to former US Manas Airbase
The US base was closed a year ago after the Kyrgyz authorities said foreign military was unwanted on the territory of a civilian airport
BISHKEK, July 20. /TASS/. A new military unit of Kyrgyzstan’s National Guard has opened on Monday on the territory of the former US airbase at Bishkek’s Manas airport.
"We will push forward with the military reform," Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambayev said at the ceremony. "The military personnel are provided with modern military equipment, and more equipment and ammunition will be delivered soon." He noted that "such steps boost the country’s defense capacity and security."
A rapid reaction battalion of Kyrgyzstan’s National Guard is now deployed on the territory of the former US airbase.
The US Air Force base at Manas was opened in December 2001. Originally it accommodated military personnel and equipment from several member-countries of the anti-terrorist coalition, which were engaged in efforts to support Operation Enduring Freedom conducted by the United States in Afghanistan. In subsequent years, the backbone of the group was composed of the US Air Force personnel. The base was closed a year ago due to the decision of the Kyrgyz authorities. Bishkek said the move stemmed from its unwillingness to have foreign military on the territory of its civilian airport and announced plans to build a major logistics hub in Manas.
The US base was closed a year ago after the Kyrgyz authorities said foreign military was unwanted on the territory of a civilian airport
BISHKEK, July 20. /TASS/. A new military unit of Kyrgyzstan’s National Guard has opened on Monday on the territory of the former US airbase at Bishkek’s Manas airport.
"We will push forward with the military reform," Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambayev said at the ceremony. "The military personnel are provided with modern military equipment, and more equipment and ammunition will be delivered soon." He noted that "such steps boost the country’s defense capacity and security."
A rapid reaction battalion of Kyrgyzstan’s National Guard is now deployed on the territory of the former US airbase.
The US Air Force base at Manas was opened in December 2001. Originally it accommodated military personnel and equipment from several member-countries of the anti-terrorist coalition, which were engaged in efforts to support Operation Enduring Freedom conducted by the United States in Afghanistan. In subsequent years, the backbone of the group was composed of the US Air Force personnel. The base was closed a year ago due to the decision of the Kyrgyz authorities. Bishkek said the move stemmed from its unwillingness to have foreign military on the territory of its civilian airport and announced plans to build a major logistics hub in Manas.
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US troops stay in Afghanistan also for geopolitical reasons , says top MP
MOSCOW, October 15. /TASS/. The US decision to extend military presence in Afghanistan is motivated not only by military, but also by geopolitical considerations, the first deputy chairman of the Russian upper house’s defence and security committee told Tass on Thursday in comments on a statement by US President Barack Obama.
"This decision was forecasted, as in 14 years, since 2001, Americans have failed to either protect Afghanistan against Taliban and Al-Qaeda or to stop drug trafficking from that country," Franz Klintsevich said.
"Moreover, the situation there has worsened further, and withdrawing from Afghanistan in this conditions would mean acknowledgement of their own impotence," the parliamentarian said.
Earlier on Thursday, Obama said the US would keep the current number of US military, 9,800, in Afghanistan for the most part of 2016, and their mission would remain the same.
President Obama said the troop extension could "make a real difference" for Afghanistan and Afghan security forces, which he said were "not as strong" as they needed to be.
The legislator said Washington’s decision was not purely military, but geopolitical" and could be in particular prompted by Russia’s growing influence in the region.
"Afghanistan has started looking to Russia of late. Contacts of our countries’ representatives have got more frequent at very different levels. Of course it could not go unnoticed by Americans," Klintsevich said.
"I would not either disregard the developments in Syria. I don’t rule out that successful activity of our Aerospace Forces could also directly or indirectly influence the decision of the US president," the parliamentarian added.
In March, Obama suspended the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, although earlier he had pledged that half of them would return home by the end of this year, and that in a year’s time American military would stay only on the territory of the US Embassy in Kabul.
On Thursday, the president said the US would keep 5,500 troops after 2016 that would be stationed in four locations - Kabul, Bagram, Jalalabad and Kandahar.
MOSCOW, October 15. /TASS/. The US decision to extend military presence in Afghanistan is motivated not only by military, but also by geopolitical considerations, the first deputy chairman of the Russian upper house’s defence and security committee told Tass on Thursday in comments on a statement by US President Barack Obama.
"This decision was forecasted, as in 14 years, since 2001, Americans have failed to either protect Afghanistan against Taliban and Al-Qaeda or to stop drug trafficking from that country," Franz Klintsevich said.
"Moreover, the situation there has worsened further, and withdrawing from Afghanistan in this conditions would mean acknowledgement of their own impotence," the parliamentarian said.
Earlier on Thursday, Obama said the US would keep the current number of US military, 9,800, in Afghanistan for the most part of 2016, and their mission would remain the same.
President Obama said the troop extension could "make a real difference" for Afghanistan and Afghan security forces, which he said were "not as strong" as they needed to be.
The legislator said Washington’s decision was not purely military, but geopolitical" and could be in particular prompted by Russia’s growing influence in the region.
"Afghanistan has started looking to Russia of late. Contacts of our countries’ representatives have got more frequent at very different levels. Of course it could not go unnoticed by Americans," Klintsevich said.
"I would not either disregard the developments in Syria. I don’t rule out that successful activity of our Aerospace Forces could also directly or indirectly influence the decision of the US president," the parliamentarian added.
In March, Obama suspended the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, although earlier he had pledged that half of them would return home by the end of this year, and that in a year’s time American military would stay only on the territory of the US Embassy in Kabul.
On Thursday, the president said the US would keep 5,500 troops after 2016 that would be stationed in four locations - Kabul, Bagram, Jalalabad and Kandahar.
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Kerry’s Central Asian Trip Part of 'Eurasian Game of Chess'
US State Secretary John Kerry is now on a trip across Central Asia. According to political analyst Boris Mezhuev, the US is making efforts to strengthen its influence in the region, in response to Russia’s growing role in the Middle East.
On October 30, US State Secretary John Kerry started his Central Asian journey, which will continue until November 3. During the trip, Kerry was expected to visit Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
This is the first visit by a US Secretary of State to all five ex-Soviet Central Asian countries.
A number of issues are on the agenda, including regional and global security, the fight against terrorism as well as bilateral ties between Washington and the region.
In Samarkand, Uzbekistan Kerry also held a meeting with all top diplomats of the region.
The US has intensified its role in Central Asia to compensate for their losses in the Middle East where Russia has recently emerged as a significant player.
"It was a surprise for the US. Russia has emerged as a major player in the Middle East, a region traditionally dominated by Washington. The US is now sending a signal it could bolster its influence in Central Asia," he told Radio Sputnik.
"The US still keeps its forces on the ground in Afghanistan. I believe Washington wants to create a coalition against the Islamist threat in Central Asia and deepen its ties with the region," he added.
The analyst explained that the US keeps its troops in Afghanistan to counter Russia’s dominance in the region.
"Washington knows that if its troops are withdrawn from Afghanistan it will lose the country forever. At least, Central Asian countries would pay more attention to various Eurasian security blocs, like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Collective Security Treaty Organization etc. Thus, Russia’s influence will grow," Mezhuev pointed out.
According to him, now the US is trying to prove it can retain both military and political influence in Central Asia.
"This is why all that is happening. It’s just a typical 'grand chessboard', as Bzhezhinsky described it. Washington is letting Russia know that its role in the region is both a military and political one," he concluded.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151102/1029476674/kerry-trip-central-asia.html#ixzz3qLm6CvI5
US State Secretary John Kerry is now on a trip across Central Asia. According to political analyst Boris Mezhuev, the US is making efforts to strengthen its influence in the region, in response to Russia’s growing role in the Middle East.
On October 30, US State Secretary John Kerry started his Central Asian journey, which will continue until November 3. During the trip, Kerry was expected to visit Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
This is the first visit by a US Secretary of State to all five ex-Soviet Central Asian countries.
A number of issues are on the agenda, including regional and global security, the fight against terrorism as well as bilateral ties between Washington and the region.
In Samarkand, Uzbekistan Kerry also held a meeting with all top diplomats of the region.
The US has intensified its role in Central Asia to compensate for their losses in the Middle East where Russia has recently emerged as a significant player.
"It was a surprise for the US. Russia has emerged as a major player in the Middle East, a region traditionally dominated by Washington. The US is now sending a signal it could bolster its influence in Central Asia," he told Radio Sputnik.
"The US still keeps its forces on the ground in Afghanistan. I believe Washington wants to create a coalition against the Islamist threat in Central Asia and deepen its ties with the region," he added.
The analyst explained that the US keeps its troops in Afghanistan to counter Russia’s dominance in the region.
"Washington knows that if its troops are withdrawn from Afghanistan it will lose the country forever. At least, Central Asian countries would pay more attention to various Eurasian security blocs, like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Collective Security Treaty Organization etc. Thus, Russia’s influence will grow," Mezhuev pointed out.
According to him, now the US is trying to prove it can retain both military and political influence in Central Asia.
"This is why all that is happening. It’s just a typical 'grand chessboard', as Bzhezhinsky described it. Washington is letting Russia know that its role in the region is both a military and political one," he concluded.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151102/1029476674/kerry-trip-central-asia.html#ixzz3qLm6CvI5
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And those nations speak to kerry? What a bunch of traitors...russia must be for them main ally and only
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Turkmenistan is building a gas pipeline to rival Iran, this is probably the US telling(probably came after John Kerry's visit) Turkmenistan to do this and this is right before the sanctions on Iran are to be lifted, so this just the US screwing a Russian ally. Russia cannot trust the post soviet countries and need to be careful with them because they can be easily affected by the west. The pipeline will run trough Afghanistan and Pakistan, won't the terrorists blow it up, probably not because the US controls the all terrorists. And this is coming out just after the Russian plane crash in Egypt.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/08/436775/Turkmenistan-gas-pipeline-TAPI-Iran-
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/08/436775/Turkmenistan-gas-pipeline-TAPI-Iran-
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par far wrote:Turkmenistan is building a gas pipeline to rival Iran, this is probably the US telling(probably came after John Kerry's visit) Turkmenistan to do this and this is right before the sanctions on Iran are to be lifted, so this just the US screwing a Russian ally. Russia cannot trust the post soviet countries and need to be careful with them because they can be easily affected by the west. The pipeline will run trough Afghanistan and Pakistan, won't the terrorists blow it up, probably not because the US controls the all terrorists. And this is coming out just after the Russian plane crash in Egypt.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/08/436775/Turkmenistan-gas-pipeline-TAPI-Iran-
They can do whatever they want. Turkmenistan does not have the reserves to serve every market. It is already over-committed in its exports
to China. Bach in the early 2000s there was this delusion that the Caspian basin was the new Middle East. There were big plans for the Nabucco
pipeline to bypass Russia and feed the EU with Turkmen gas. It was all epic BS. The only suppliers that can compete with Russia are Iran together
with Qatar.
http://www.naturalgaseurope.com/turkmenistan-supplied-125-bcm-gas-to-china-25610
Turkmenistan is supposed to ship 40 bcm/year of gas to China. That is a lot of gas and it does not have much more export capacity.
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kvs wrote:par far wrote:Turkmenistan is building a gas pipeline to rival Iran, this is probably the US telling(probably came after John Kerry's visit) Turkmenistan to do this and this is right before the sanctions on Iran are to be lifted, so this just the US screwing a Russian ally. Russia cannot trust the post soviet countries and need to be careful with them because they can be easily affected by the west. The pipeline will run trough Afghanistan and Pakistan, won't the terrorists blow it up, probably not because the US controls the all terrorists. And this is coming out just after the Russian plane crash in Egypt.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/08/436775/Turkmenistan-gas-pipeline-TAPI-Iran-
They can do whatever they want. Turkmenistan does not have the reserves to serve every market. It is already over-committed in its exports
to China. Bach in the early 2000s there was this delusion that the Caspian basin was the new Middle East. There were big plans for the Nabucco
pipeline to bypass Russia and feed the EU with Turkmen gas. It was all epic BS. The only suppliers that can compete with Russia are Iran together
with Qatar.
http://www.naturalgaseurope.com/turkmenistan-supplied-125-bcm-gas-to-china-25610
Turkmenistan is supposed to ship 40 bcm/year of gas to China. That is a lot of gas and it does not have much more export capacity.
Take into account that Kazakhstan, Iran and Russia have major control over Caspian sea and all 3 have major agreements with each other on the control and resources belonging there. Probably to prevent that idea of the Nabucco.
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sepheronx wrote:kvs wrote:par far wrote:Turkmenistan is building a gas pipeline to rival Iran, this is probably the US telling(probably came after John Kerry's visit) Turkmenistan to do this and this is right before the sanctions on Iran are to be lifted, so this just the US screwing a Russian ally. Russia cannot trust the post soviet countries and need to be careful with them because they can be easily affected by the west. The pipeline will run trough Afghanistan and Pakistan, won't the terrorists blow it up, probably not because the US controls the all terrorists. And this is coming out just after the Russian plane crash in Egypt.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/11/08/436775/Turkmenistan-gas-pipeline-TAPI-Iran-
They can do whatever they want. Turkmenistan does not have the reserves to serve every market. It is already over-committed in its exports
to China. Bach in the early 2000s there was this delusion that the Caspian basin was the new Middle East. There were big plans for the Nabucco
pipeline to bypass Russia and feed the EU with Turkmen gas. It was all epic BS. The only suppliers that can compete with Russia are Iran together
with Qatar.
http://www.naturalgaseurope.com/turkmenistan-supplied-125-bcm-gas-to-china-25610
Turkmenistan is supposed to ship 40 bcm/year of gas to China. That is a lot of gas and it does not have much more export capacity.
Take into account that Kazakhstan, Iran and Russia have major control over Caspian sea and all 3 have major agreements with each other on the control and resources belonging there. Probably to prevent that idea of the Nabucco.
The resource sharing agreement included all the major Caspian Sea bordering nations, including Turkmenistan:
https://www.rt.com/news/191592-caspian-sea-nations-deal/
Turkmenistan will not have the luxury of using the Caspian Sea as a political weapon, and will likely be veto'd by the other nations.
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Kazakhastan FM: Central Asia no pawns in "big game"
ASTANA, December 23. /TASS/. Kazakhstan rejects the "big game" concept in the Central Asian region, which is a space for cooperation, Foreign Minister Erlan Idrissov told a news conference on Wednesday.
Kazakhstan "flatly rejects the ‘big game’ concept ‘some politicians of the world began to talk about in connection with the active exchange of highest-and high-level visits, visits of the leaders of China, Russia, Turkey, India, Japan, the United States and Europe."
"Kazakhstan and the countries of Central Asia are mature players, not pawns in any game," the minister said. "Kazakhstan sees Central Asia as a space for cooperation, collaboration and trust."
Idrissov believes that "the legitimate interests that various major players have can be successfully combined and not collide" in Eurasia. In his opinion, this is a distinctive feature of Nursultan Nazarbayev's concept, "when everybody wins." "We will be consistently pursuing this line", which is the key to understanding Kazakhstan’s multi-vector policy, the minister added.
http://tass.ru/en/world/846235
ASTANA, December 23. /TASS/. Kazakhstan rejects the "big game" concept in the Central Asian region, which is a space for cooperation, Foreign Minister Erlan Idrissov told a news conference on Wednesday.
Kazakhstan "flatly rejects the ‘big game’ concept ‘some politicians of the world began to talk about in connection with the active exchange of highest-and high-level visits, visits of the leaders of China, Russia, Turkey, India, Japan, the United States and Europe."
"Kazakhstan and the countries of Central Asia are mature players, not pawns in any game," the minister said. "Kazakhstan sees Central Asia as a space for cooperation, collaboration and trust."
Idrissov believes that "the legitimate interests that various major players have can be successfully combined and not collide" in Eurasia. In his opinion, this is a distinctive feature of Nursultan Nazarbayev's concept, "when everybody wins." "We will be consistently pursuing this line", which is the key to understanding Kazakhstan’s multi-vector policy, the minister added.
http://tass.ru/en/world/846235
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Tajikistan Kyrgyzstan
Kyrgyzstan endorses draft agreement with Tajikistan on identifying borderline
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Kazakhstan In the footsteps of Ukraine
This article suggests something bad is brewing Kazakhstan.,
http://rusplt.ru/society/kazahstan-russkiy-vopros-24514.html
Cancel Victory Parade in Kazakhstan, the transition to the Latin alphabet and the local "Holodomor" exacerbate Russian question
The miracle did not happen. Multi-vector policy pursued by the President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev for many years, in fact, turned out to be only a form of construction of the Kazakh national state, and curtsey to Russian and Russian-speakers were designed to disguise this course for the time being. Arguments for such an interpretation of events is growing. In any case, the part of the Kazakh political elite, which stands for ethnic nationalism clearly has the upper hand. The attack follows the line of the history, culture and language. Likewise, recently in Ukraine. The effects may be similar.
Symptomatic sign of change in the situation was the refusal from holding the military parade on the occasion of Victory Day in Astana. This was reported by the Defense Ministry press-service of Kazakhstan. According to the military, this year the parade will take place for some reason, in September and will be timed to the Independence Day of Kazakhstan. In fact, this festival is celebrated in the country on 16 December. It was on this date in 1991, the Supreme Council was adopted by the Constitutional Law on the independence of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
Anyway, the traditional parade in May, will not be. And this despite the fact that in 2015, on the 70th anniversary of the Victory, he was the most powerful in the modern history of Kazakhstan. Five hundred thousand troops and military equipment units were supported by aircraft of the US Embassy. Then, because of the events in the Ukraine in the country were strong fears that Kazakhstan will become the next target for the account "color revolution", and the government wanted to demonstrate force. The action itself took place on May 7, 9, Nazarbayev attended the parade in Moscow. Apparently, this was the last chord.
But Kazakhstan and its residents to play an active role in the Great Patriotic War. At some point in defining. So, here, in Alma-Ata, and the famous 316th Infantry Division was formed in neighboring Kyrgyzstan, whose fighters are known to the world as "Panfilov". It is their heroism during the defense of Moscow remained for centuries in 1941 and even mentioned in the text of the anthem of the Russian capital. The phrase Lieutenant Klochkova "Great Russia, and nowhere to retreat - behind Moscow!" And all know each student. By the way, among the Kazakhs almost one hundred - 99 Heroes of the Soviet Union.
Interestingly, the cult of heroes Panfilov in the former Soviet republics of Asia, perhaps even stronger than in Russia. When the former head of the State Archive Sergey Mironenko preparing his ideological sabotage with debunking their feat, the most indignant that it was the representatives of Kazakhstan. At the World Congress of Russian Press, they were reminded that almost every school there is a museum of heroes and heroism newfangled denial of their countrymen makes them disgusted. And now this feat War attacked again. At this time, already own, the Kazakh authorities.
The fact that it is not a coincidence, no doubt. This is a deliberate policy. Nobody wants any "savings". States do not give up ideologically significant events for the sake of economy. In the end, in the same 1941, went to the front right from the parade on Red Square. Because it was necessary. The current Kazakhstan clearly is not necessary. Victory Parade perceived as ideological connection with the alien phenomenon is now - Russia.
This urge, and other events of the same series with the fundamental nature. Such as, for example, the transition from the Cyrillic to the Latin alphabet. The initiative for this was made by Nazarbayev himself, and quite a long time - ten years ago. But right now the idea has gained flesh and blood. In March, the corresponding state program funding was adopted. In Latin translate all state documents, the names of streets, printing passports and other documents of citizens. Only officials initially will acquire $ 300 million. It is clear that the money the government will spend Kazakhstan only if it believes the goal is really very important. Transfer to the Latin alphabet is to integrate it into the Western Anglo-Saxon world (and partly in Turkish, using the Latin alphabet) and withdraw it from the Russian world. In any way it can not be explained otherwise.
Complete the process of transition to a new alphabet must be by 2025. This will help Kazakhstan "colleagues" of the Turkic world, have already passed this way - experts-philologists of Azerbaijan. By the way, the skeptics talk about the fact that such a question should be put to a referendum, the response in Astana was not found. Everything is dictated by the supreme will. Well, yes, in words it is about creating the conditions for integration into the world a better study of the children of the English language and the language of the Internet, but this is secondary tasks. Obviously, the main goal - political - maximum separation of Kazakhstan from Russia.
Imposing its Latin country, Nazarbayev does not forget about the development of the Kazakh language. Thus, the country's history to be taught in schools only in Kazakh in 2018. Russian will be required to learn the first language of the majority population, and only then will be able to receive a full secondary education. It is clear that without this, any, even the most modest career for them will be impossible. The alternative - to leave the country.
Another way of development of the national identity of the Kazakh and Russian opposition to it became the topic of local "Holodomor", similar to Ukrainian. We are talking about hunger, which experienced many regions of the USSR in the 1930s. "Starving the Volga region" - is there. That is the theme used in Ukraine to incite hatred towards Russian. They say it was a deliberate genocide of Russian Ukrainians. At the same scheme and operate in Kazakhstan. In Astana opened a monument to the appropriate kind of tragic.
According to "Russian imperialist" Ermek Taychibekova, who is now in prison for his views , like monuments purposefully opened in all cities of Kazakhstan with a population of more than 5 thousand people. We are talking about a targeted campaign, in which the victims of Russian Kazakhs are exposed and therefore are opposed to them. It is clear that this is not the end good. Nazarbayev is not eternal. When in power in Kazakhstan comes a new post-Soviet generation, explosion Kazakh nationalism is inevitable.
And here the question arises, what to do in this situation, Russia. In the country, in spite of the departure, continue to live millions of Russian and Russian-speaking, now constitute a national minority. They live mainly in the north, historically Russian, part of the country. Suffice it to recall that in places where there is now the Kazakh city of Uralsk, walked once rebellious Emelyan Pugachev. And where does the Kazakhs definitely respected?
It is unlikely that this is not understood in the Kremlin. However, all of the past with the collapse of the Soviet years, Moscow has relied on the central government of Kazakhstan in the hope of its goodwill. About how to Ukraine allegedly pro-Russian Yanukovych. Like, do not trouble trouble until it softly. At the same time, all attempts to raise the issue of Russian co-suppressed secret services of both countries. A major such attempts have been at least three.
First in 1997, when escaped Cossack uprising in Kokshetau. The authorities acted to pre-empt - Kokshetau region abolished, merged it with the North Kazakhstan, denying the possibility of the local authorities to make decisions closer to Russia. It was absolutely a legitimate attempt, based on current law and the will of the people, but it failed. Next it was already more brutal - Kazimirchuk group accused of intending to seize power by force of arms and sentenced to long terms. And finally, the third attempt - Eduard Limonov and his associates in 2001 - was cupped in the territory of Russia. However, the court acquitted the Russian rebels. After spending several years in prison, they were released.
The problem of the Russian minority nonetheless not disappeared. As you can see, the rate of the central authority and its credibility on the part of Moscow, only postponed it for a while. Now the period of international peace comes to an end. Kazakh nationalism comes to the stage of history. Rejection of the common past of the Victory of 1945 - the first bell. Ahead of a lot of tragic events.
http://rusplt.ru/society/kazahstan-russkiy-vopros-24514.html
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I cant seem to find any other news regarding these claims besides a pravda article.
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So it may be a lot of hysteria build up by fifth columnists to pin Russians against Kazakhs.
Kazakhstan was the one who proposed the Eurasian Union and pretty much the CSTO, with its current president. So a lot of these claims go in contrary to what the president is doing. I have a feeling that there is a growing sense of nationalism in Kazakhstan and they are breeding it, to prevent concepts of a colored revolution in Kazakhstan. Best way to do this is through a language and cultural concept that everyone will follow.
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Do not look for problems where there are none . In the modern history of Kazakhstan was only 5 parades : in 2005 , 2009, 2011 , 2014 and 2015 . They spend not annually, and after any anniversaries . The next parade is scheduled for 2017 . That's the whole secret. And you already shout loudly that Nazarbayev merged all
So it may be a lot of hysteria build up by fifth columnists to pin Russians against Kazakhs.
Kazakhstan was the one who proposed the Eurasian Union and pretty much the CSTO, with its current president. So a lot of these claims go in contrary to what the president is doing. I have a feeling that there is a growing sense of nationalism in Kazakhstan and they are breeding it, to prevent concepts of a colored revolution in Kazakhstan. Best way to do this is through a language and cultural concept that everyone will follow.
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Cancel Victory Parade in Kazakhstan
Kazakhstan has a 23% Russian minority but the Russians have been completely blocked out of Kazakh political life.
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The Situation in Kazakhstan
Four-Day Terror Spree Leaves at Least 20 Dead in Kazakhstan
Six suspected terrorists remain at large in Kazakhstan following the deadliest internal attacks in the country's history, according to Kazakh officials. Twenty people — including 13 attackers killed by government forces — were reported dead this week in Aktobe, a city in the country's northwest sector near the border with Russia.
"The government of Kazakhstan and Ministry of Internal Affairs are closely examining the events and what has taken place," said Yerlan Kubashev, a political counselor at the Embassy of Kazakhstan in Washington, D.C. "As the situation continues to unfold, we will not be able to draw any conclusions."
The four-day rampage began Sunday with robberies at two gun stores, and continued as assailants hijacked a bus and rammed their way into a military base, where they killed three service members and wounded nine others. On Wednesday, the attackers assaulted a children's camp.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-10/four-day-terror-spree-leaves-at-least-20-dead-in-kazakhstan
Interesting how this happened in a city with a quarter Russian population.
Also this city was known as Aktyubinsk, but anti-Russian policies changed it to Aktobe.
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Changing names doesn't = anti Russian. Could also be nationalists nationalizing the country. That is what current leader does. To gain strength a power over the country, band together nationalists.
And attacks happen everywhere. It hit a Kazakhstan military base. What does half a quarter Rus population have to do with this? Finding links where there is none?
And attacks happen everywhere. It hit a Kazakhstan military base. What does half a quarter Rus population have to do with this? Finding links where there is none?
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sepheronx wrote:Changing names doesn't = anti Russian. Could also be nationalists nationalizing the country. That is what current leader does. To gain strength a power over the country, band together nationalists.
And attacks happen everywhere. It hit a Kazakhstan military base. What does half a quarter Rus population have to do with this? Finding links where there is none?
I didn't mean Russians did that. As the city has a well known track record of jihadis attacks many years now.
But the city has also been nothing short of colonised so to speak from the countryside with Muslim Kazakhs after the fall of USSR.
PS. dropping Russian names is not pro-Russian either. Also the city predates USSR, so changing its name is falsification of history. It was a Russian fort.
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But that is now the issue of Kazakhstan as the city is their jurisdiction. Russians also have left in droves in the past from Kazakhstan so who fills the void? They simply "nationalizing" for central power. Always the case if you look at most CIS countries. I don't like it myself, but I don't see it as anti-Russian but more like: "I R Kazakh, Urah!" kinda thing. They are still very much friendly an sympathetic to Russia.
As for the incident, it will be a growing trend, something Kazakhstan will have to work hard on in dealing. The more Muslims move in, the more likely terrorist cells increase. I know Russia is ramping up anti terrorism training with Kazakhstan and other CIS countries, but ultimately, Kazakhstan will have to work double/triple shift in dealing with these kind of people.
Sucks that Russia has so many Muslim based nations south of her. But something they need to help deal with.
I imagine in coming years, Kazakhstan will build a larger anti terrorist groups. They have little choice IMO.
Edit: I do find it interesting that this happens not so long after the "anti gov protests" though. Soros hand?
As for the incident, it will be a growing trend, something Kazakhstan will have to work hard on in dealing. The more Muslims move in, the more likely terrorist cells increase. I know Russia is ramping up anti terrorism training with Kazakhstan and other CIS countries, but ultimately, Kazakhstan will have to work double/triple shift in dealing with these kind of people.
Sucks that Russia has so many Muslim based nations south of her. But something they need to help deal with.
I imagine in coming years, Kazakhstan will build a larger anti terrorist groups. They have little choice IMO.
Edit: I do find it interesting that this happens not so long after the "anti gov protests" though. Soros hand?
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sepheronx wrote:Edit: I do find it interesting that this happens not so long after the "anti gov protests" though. Soros hand?
I find it interesting as it's near the oil too. Apparently the whole area there is a hub for oil and full of pipelines. Russia wouldn't want to mess that up. So it leaves us with the "moderate" and their support groups.
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Bad news for Kazakh authorities as well then. I imagine it will be a pretty hard crackdown on t authorities end.
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Sucks that Russia has so many Muslim based nations south of her. But something they need to help deal with.
I find it suspicious how Islam spread quickly in central asia after the collapse of USSR (I suspect KSA has a big hand in this), i mean the region already has islamic past but this could have been rectified if only the Russian church has actively converted muslims/non religious people in these areas to Russian orthodoxy. imo political correctness in relation to islam needs to be obliterated completely, cause today, Islamic propagation = okay, not much fuss. Christian propagation = Insult to Muslims! Disrespect to Muslim religion! Extremism! etc
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Shooting occuring in Alma-Ata, said to be in two locations. Seems police are the targets. Photos and video in the link http://informburo.kz/novosti/video-s-telom-ubitogo-vo-vremya-perestrelki-v-almaty-policeyskim-poyavilos-v-seti.html
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Russian, Turkmen presidents sign strategic partnership treaty
A convention on the legal status of the Caspian Sea may be finally coordinated at a next summit of the region’s states
ASHGABAT, October 2. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkmen counterpart Gurbanguly Berdimukhamedov have put their signatures to a bilateral treaty on strategic partnership. Their talks ended with the conclusion of another 14 joint documents.
Agriculture ministers inked an inter-government agreement on cooperation in the agri-industrial complex, and industry ministers, an inter-government agreement on cooperation in industry.
Other bilateral agreements concern cooperation in sports, tourism, the health service standards and metrology, inter-regional relations.
Also, Putin and Berdimukhamedov made a joint statement.
A convention on the legal status of the Caspian Sea may be finally coordinated at a next summit of the region’s states, Berdymukhamedov said.
"We hope that the issue of finishing joint work on a convention on the Caspian status may be considered already at the fifth summit of the Caspian Sea states," the president said at talks with visiting Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"This issue is of strategic importance for us, and I think that all of us, the Caspian Sea countries, will come out in favor of settling it," the Turkmen leader said.
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A convention on the legal status of the Caspian Sea may be finally coordinated at a next summit of the region’s states
ASHGABAT, October 2. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkmen counterpart Gurbanguly Berdimukhamedov have put their signatures to a bilateral treaty on strategic partnership. Their talks ended with the conclusion of another 14 joint documents.
Agriculture ministers inked an inter-government agreement on cooperation in the agri-industrial complex, and industry ministers, an inter-government agreement on cooperation in industry.
Other bilateral agreements concern cooperation in sports, tourism, the health service standards and metrology, inter-regional relations.
Also, Putin and Berdimukhamedov made a joint statement.
A convention on the legal status of the Caspian Sea may be finally coordinated at a next summit of the region’s states, Berdymukhamedov said.
"We hope that the issue of finishing joint work on a convention on the Caspian status may be considered already at the fifth summit of the Caspian Sea states," the president said at talks with visiting Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"This issue is of strategic importance for us, and I think that all of us, the Caspian Sea countries, will come out in favor of settling it," the Turkmen leader said.
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Kazakhstan’s president announces resignation
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Kassym-Jomart Tokayev the new President of Kazakhstan
Putin congratulates Tokayev on assuming post of Kazakhstan’s president
Russia and Kazakhstan will step up cooperation, according to Putin
MOSCOW, March 20. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin congratulated Kassym-Jomart Tokayev on assuming the post of Kazakhstan’s president, the Kremlin press service said on Wednesday.
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"Russia knows you as an experienced statesman, who is making a great personal contribution to enhancing the relationship of strategic partnership and alliance between our countries and promoting mutually beneficial integration processes on the Eurasian space," Putin said in a telegram.
"I’m sure that by joint efforts we will ensure further boosting of constructive Russian-Kazakh cooperation in all areas and also partnership cooperation in solving vital issues of the international agenda," the Russian leader said.
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