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An ideal successor of Putin would be someone like him but more market (reform) oriented, maybe with a dose of protectionism.
BTW - Sevastopol hit a record - 123% of those eligible voted.
BTW - Sevastopol hit a record - 123% of those eligible voted.
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The Situation in the Ukraine. #2
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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Hannibal Barca- Posts : 1457
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TR1 wrote:Hopefully someone who is not from United Russia.
I know I know, but a man can dream.
Cut it......! Just tell to the boys that you are a communist and they will understand......
By the way, why don't you tell us what happened the last time you had communism? We are curious to learn.
Oh and please don't restrain yourself from the colorful details
As Sa'iqa wrote:An ideal successor of Putin 10 years from now would besomeone like hima clone of himbut more market (reform) oriented, maybe with a dose of protectionism.
Agreed
TR1- Posts : 5435
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You kidding me?
I'd rather take the Botox Queen over the Communists.
Btw most of their "gains" in recent years were from protest votes, not people actually wanting communism back.
Also as always from old people who don't want to install gas meters in their formerly state-paid apartments.
I'd rather take the Botox Queen over the Communists.
Btw most of their "gains" in recent years were from protest votes, not people actually wanting communism back.
Also as always from old people who don't want to install gas meters in their formerly state-paid apartments.
magnumcromagnon- Posts : 8138
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TR1 wrote:You kidding me?
I'd rather take the Botox Queen over the Communists.
Btw most of their "gains" in recent years were from protest votes, not people actually wanting communism back.
Also as always from old people who don't want to install gas meters in their formerly state-paid apartments.
We need a Russian equivalent of Charles de Gaulle:
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Now that I can get behind.
A true patriot, not a thief.
A true patriot, not a thief.
Hannibal Barca- Posts : 1457
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TR1 wrote:You kidding me?
I'd rather take the Botox Queen over the Communists.
Btw most of their "gains" in recent years were from protest votes, not people actually wanting communism back.
Also as always from old people who don't want to install gas meters in their formerly state-paid apartments.
OK, you made yourself clear.
Bear in mind though that this "professional" protestors and guys that always complain are a double edge sword.
Actually can work as a Trojan horse if you know what I mean
This doesn't mean of course that Russian society and even more economy don't need major reforms.
KomissarBojanchev- Posts : 1429
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What happened when russia had communists? Why millions of people were uplifted from capitalist exploitation and saw a birth of a superpower even without having overseas colonies from which to exploit millions of natives for cheap labor. A successor to putin would be someone who cares more about nbenifiting the (richer but still heavily impoverished) working class, while nationalising all the strategic resources currently controlled by the oligarchs. I dont want a russia where there's privatised public services which only the upper middle and ruling classes can reliably afford while all corporations abuse workers due to no regulations, eg Gilded Age style. Bulgaria is an example of what happened when libertarians took power:namely just shit.Hannibal Barca wrote:TR1 wrote:Hopefully someone who is not from United Russia.
I know I know, but a man can dream.
Cut it......! Just tell to the boys that you are a communist and they will understand......
By the way, why don't you tell us what happened the last time you had communism? We are curious to learn.
Oh and please don't restrain yourself from the colorful detailsAs Sa'iqa wrote:An ideal successor of Putin 10 years from now would besomeone like hima clone of him
Agreed
TR1- Posts : 5435
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KomissarBojanchev wrote:
What happened when russia had communists? Why millions of people were uplifted from capitalist exploitation and saw a birth of a superpower even without having overseas colonies from which to exploit millions of natives for cheap labor.
And millions of people were uplifted from their lives.
Remember what happened to that superpower? Hint, it crapped out.
macedonian- Posts : 1067
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Austin wrote:Dmitry Rogozin is strong pro-russian keeps always Russian interest in mind and has a good sense of humour.
Hope some day he becomes President of Russia.
I like Rogozin, he's a guy with a great sense of humor but one draw back is that he's abrasive, but the best candidate for the next Russian president should be Sergey Lavrov. How Sergey handled the Iran and Syrian situations is worthy of presidential material, he's the text book definition of a velvet glove.
Hear hear!
I've been saying that for quite some time here.
Great minds, eh
TR1 wrote:Hopefully someone who is not from United Russia.
I know I know, but a man can dream.
Lavrov?
TR1 wrote:Now that I can get behind.
A true patriot, not a thief.
That'd be...Lavrov again.
KomissarBojanchev- Posts : 1429
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Due to the western backed Yeltsin coup and (80% of the cause)overemphasis on the MIC, basically the same problem the US has, as well astoo much corruption from a the party nomenclature that devolved (regrettably but not mandatory for a future socialist republic) into a priviledged ruling class more interested in intrigues than saving a country, not because muh capituhlism and small gubmint is da best.
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To me, it doesn't matter who is at the top per se. Lavrov though would be my choice (if I had one that is).
It is the one who will be head of the Central bank and the Economics of the country. This individual would be the one who would make some of the biggest changes. As to how to improve domestic consumption, what industries to concentrate on and which ones to allow free for all development in, and whom to actually trade with and whom not to.
It is Russia's economic policies holding it back. As the good concept of growing middle class is nice, they need to grow domestic demand for their products, and artificially inflate it, much like UK does, in order to stay economically strong without the need of others investments. It was the WTO that is hurting Russia. It is their economic policies relying of foreign trade that is hurting their foreign policies, etc. So that person, whomever he is, needs to be real good at his job. And not some Kurdin guy, who would bend over back for west just to get some money, and not some oligarch that will be needing to fill his pocket even more.
It is the one who will be head of the Central bank and the Economics of the country. This individual would be the one who would make some of the biggest changes. As to how to improve domestic consumption, what industries to concentrate on and which ones to allow free for all development in, and whom to actually trade with and whom not to.
It is Russia's economic policies holding it back. As the good concept of growing middle class is nice, they need to grow domestic demand for their products, and artificially inflate it, much like UK does, in order to stay economically strong without the need of others investments. It was the WTO that is hurting Russia. It is their economic policies relying of foreign trade that is hurting their foreign policies, etc. So that person, whomever he is, needs to be real good at his job. And not some Kurdin guy, who would bend over back for west just to get some money, and not some oligarch that will be needing to fill his pocket even more.
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Since the discussion somehow shifted to "who'll be the next Russian president", I'll contribute too.
How about Ramzan Kadyrov?
How about Ramzan Kadyrov?
SOC- Posts : 565
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As Sa'iqa wrote:BTW - Sevastopol hit a record - 123% of those eligible voted.
Wait...what?
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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Maybe some people rose from the dead to vote for Russia? Who knows.
macedonian- Posts : 1067
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As Sa'iqa wrote:Maybe some people rose from the dead to vote for Russia? Who knows.
Care to share a link for that info?
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http://www.dailydot.com/politics/crimea-referendum-123-percent-sevastopol/
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odessa NOW!!
www_ustream_tv/channel/odessa-city-reports
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www_ustream_tv/channel/odessa-city-reports
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macedonian- Posts : 1067
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As Sa'iqa wrote:http://www.dailydot.com/politics/crimea-referendum-123-percent-sevastopol/
Really?!!
'The Daily Dot'???!
You cannot be serious.
Are you trolling?
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Hey it's right there on the web page, it must be true.
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As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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A Polish news portal said that so I decided to find some source in English language media as I'm certain not many people here can read Polish...
macedonian- Posts : 1067
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As Sa'iqa wrote:A Polish news portal said that so I decided to find some source in English language media as I'm certain not many people here can read Polish...
No worries, post it.
I understand Slavic languages...words are similar.
As Sa'iqa- Posts : 398
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http://fakty.interia.pl/raport-zamieszki-na-ukrainie/opinie/news-ukrainskie-media-w-sewastopolu-frekwencja-wyniosla-123-proc,nId,1359080macedonian wrote:As Sa'iqa wrote:A Polish news portal said that so I decided to find some source in English language media as I'm certain not many people here can read Polish...
No worries, post it.
I understand Slavic languages...words are similar.
macedonian- Posts : 1067
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As Sa'iqa wrote:http://fakty.interia.pl/raport-zamieszki-na-ukrainie/opinie/news-ukrainskie-media-w-sewastopolu-frekwencja-wyniosla-123-proc,nId,1359080macedonian wrote:As Sa'iqa wrote:A Polish news portal said that so I decided to find some source in English language media as I'm certain not many people here can read Polish...
No worries, post it.
I understand Slavic languages...words are similar.
That portal quotes the Ukrainian Pravda for that story.
The Pravda.com.ua then takes you to a blogger who makes the claim with a link that takes you to Gazeta.ru where I can't seem to find that info...
So, I'll take that claim with a healthy dose of skepticism, if you don't mind.
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arpakola wrote:odessa NOW!!
www_ustream_tv/channel/odessa-city-reports
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Unfortunately nothing serious was going on there.
So guys, what are your thoughs about the situation? Oligarchs seem in control of south-east ukraine, for now.
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1779190.html&usg=ALkJrhizlScpqAiUvG5mXvuje-_Kn7hVgg
Taruta will adopt even "national guard" to curb the protestors...
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As Sa'iqa wrote:http://www.dailydot.com/politics/crimea-referendum-123-percent-sevastopol/
That was a prank news from Ukrainska Pravda.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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So, an extra ~ 2 million people.....ought to help fill out the ranks of the Russian military a bit .
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