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The Situation in the Ukraine. #2
Regular- Posts : 3894
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Lithuanians are on the streets asking for referendum to join Russia
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macedonian wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:macedonian wrote:YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SH*T UP!!!
Please HAVE A READ
This really flips the whole Euro-Maidan scenario on its head, the whole thing looks like a bigger joke than it already was lol!
Yes.
Waiting for the new Maidan, against the old Maidan...this is pure gold. Comedy gold, that is.
You mean comedy gold like that?
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^^
Yes, precisely.
Yes, precisely.
TR1- Posts : 5435
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Obvious those guys involved in the shootout were not Russian army.
But now that Crimea is Russian...they are a problem for Russia.
It is going to be a mess.
But now that Crimea is Russian...they are a problem for Russia.
It is going to be a mess.
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Congrats to Russia
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Viktor wrote:Congrats to Russia
You are next Viktor.
Well, I will say one thing. Thanks for keeping International Affairs interesting Putin. Glad I majored in it.
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TR1 wrote:You are next Viktor.
If that is all it takes to get me closer to Natalia Poklonskaya than I dont mind
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Regular wrote:Lithuanians are on the streets asking for referendum to join Russia
THAT is when things get interesting. Lithuania being a NATO member and all. Be interesting to see if Putin takes this one on.
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SOC wrote:Regular wrote:Lithuanians are on the streets asking for referendum to join Russia
THAT is when things get interesting. Lithuania being a NATO member and all. Be interesting to see if Putin takes this one on.
Let's hope that thought is not even in his head.
Anyways Lithuania is strategically worthless for Russia, no BSF, no Sevastopol, etc.
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macedonian wrote:YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SH*T UP!!!
Please HAVE A READ
My vote man - you made my day and to think that I almost overlooked this
Exactly what Janukovic did only this time the real question is who will US/EU bring to protest as peaceful and democratic protestors - taliban / terrorist from Syria
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arpakola wrote:
I don't think people understand the context of this video, Far Right MPs Attack TV CEO, Force His Resignation, Throw Him Into A SUV:
...Such peaceful Euro-Maidan protesters...
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The Ochakov sinking was so needless lol.
Crazy Russians.
Crazy Russians.
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Argentina criticizes countries condemning Crimea referendum for “double standards"
The president compared the March 16 referendum in Crimea to the situation on the Falkland Islands
BUENOS AIRES, March 18. /ITAR-TASS/. Argentina’s President Christina Fernandez de Kirchner has criticized all countries condemning Crimea’s referendum for using “double standards”.
The president compared the March 16 referendum in Crimea to the situation on the Falkland Islands.
“If a referendum is held in Crimea, then it is all wrong. But if the same is done by the people of the Falkland Islands, then everything is fine,” Christina Fernandez de Kirchner said after meeting Pope Francis I in the Vatican on Monday.
“This stance stands no criticism,” the Argentina media quoted the president as saying. Kirchner also emphasized that “the world powers had no right to be pretending guarantors of peace.”
The Falkland Islands (the Malvinas) have been a subject of territorial dispute between Argentina and Britain for almost 200 years. In March 2013, a referendum on the archipelago’s status took place on the Falklands. The majority of the population voted for preserving the islands’ status of the overseas territory of the United Kingdom. Argentina, however, refused to recognize the referendum’s results.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/724218
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magnumcromagnon wrote:flamming_python wrote:Putin, you klutz. Man cares more about macho domestic posturing, 'red lines' and prestige than securing a Russian strategic victory. This day, will live in infamy.
Are you joking? Crimea joining Russia is s strategic victory, by cutting off the White-stream pipeline and the fact that the Black Sea gas fields will be under Russian control basically destroying any hopes of undermining the South-Stream pipeline, and maintaining the Crimean base of military operations means Russia will have both sides of Black Sea covered with strategic bases, it also means that S-500's stationed in Crimea will be helpful in strategic nuclear deterrence against European NATO.
Ok needs more info..
I used to believe the Russian pipelines were in Ukraine mainland.. not in Crimea.. Southstream pipelines is a new project to bypass Ukraine.. does all Russian pipelines the old and new ones pass over Crimea?
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TR1 wrote:The Ochakov sinking was so needless lol.
Crazy Russians.
TR1,
What aspect of this event are you referring to?
Using the Ochakov "hulk" to enforce a blockade is the classical Russian approach of using kiddy gloves in dealing with the enemy.
If they had used the option of sinking the violators, Ochakov "hulk" wouldn't have been wasted, but many Russians would have been left feeling even more sorry for the enemy.
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A Distorted Lens Justifying An Illegitimate Ukrainian Government
Why does Western media ignore critical information about the snipers that killed Euromaidan protesters in Ukraine?
Why does Western media ignore critical information about the snipers that killed Euromaidan protesters in Ukraine?
Why does Western media ignore critical information about the snipers that killed Euromaidan protesters in Ukraine?
Support it or oppose it, a coup d’état took place in Kiev after an EU-brokered agreement was signed by the Ukrainian government and the mainstream opposition on Feb. 21. The agreement called for power sharing between both sides through the formation of a national unity government and for an end to the opposition-led street protests in Kiev. President Viktor Yanukovych ordered the Ukrainian police and security forces to withdraw from their positions, and even earlier, he had made multiple concessions to the opposition leadership.
Instead of keeping its end of the bargain, the Ukrainian mainstream opposition executed a coup through the use of violence by organized ultra-nationalist gangs, which some analysts have compared to stay-behinds or secretive militias that were created by NATO during the Cold War.
These armed ultra-nationalist groups took over administrative bodies in Ukraine and fought until they managed to oust the Ukrainian government and opened the path for opposition leaders to take power on Feb. 25. The Ukrainian mainstream opposition used the EU-brokered agreement, which the Brussels-based European Commission deliberately refused to enforce, as a means of justifying the formation of a coup-imposed government.
In the absence of almost half the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada, or Ukrainian Parliament, the opposition parties began to arbitrarily pass unconstitutional laws. They also unconstitutionally selected Oleksandr/Aleksandr Valentynovych Turchynov as the acting president of Ukraine before President Viktor Yanukovych was even impeached. Intimidation and violence were additionally used to secure the cooperation of any disagreeing parliamentarians or state officials in Kiev.
Saying that the ultra-nationalists and fascists are marginal elements, the mainstream media networks in North America and the European Union have simply dismissed the armed ultra-nationalist groups involved in the coup that are presently integrated into the putsch regime running Kiev.
The militant ultra-nationalists, however, are very influential and amassing power under the illegal premiership of Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Yatsenyuk, himself, is from Yulia Tymoshenko’s notoriously corrupt All-Ukrainian Union Fatherland Party (Batkivshchyna) and essentially a U.S. and EU appointee. There is even a pre-coup leaked telephone interception, likely either recorded by the intelligence services of Russia or Ukraine, in which U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victory Nuland says that Yatsenyuk will be appointed as the prime minister of the Ukrainian government that the U.S. is putting together.
Act two of the Orange Revolution
It is unlikely that Yatsenyuk and the loosely-knit alliance of the governing parties that ran Ukraine under the Yushchenko-Tymoshenko governments, foreign-based Ukrainians, and the forces behind the Orange Revolution that form the Orangist camp which he belongs to could have gotten back into power in Ukraine without pressure, the use of force and foreign backing. Yatsenyuk was even threatened and booed by the Ukrainians gathered at Independence Square when it was announced that he would be appointed as the prime minister of the post-coup government. A vast segment of the protesters made it clear that Tymoshenko, Yatsenyuk’s party leader, was no alternative to the ousted President Viktor Yanukovych in their eyes, either, when it was announced that she wanted to run for prime minister.
The Orangists do not have the support of a majority of the population, nor did they form the parliamentary majority in the Verkhovna Rada. Their Orangist president, Viktor Yushchenko, only got 5 percent of the vote in January 2010, in a show of no-confidence, whereas Viktor Yanukovych won the first and second rounds of the presidential elections in 2010. According to Victoria Nuland, the U.S. has also poured $5 billion into “democracy promotion” inside Ukraine. This is U.S. State Department doublespeak for politicized funding that Washington has sent to Ukraine to organize the Orange Revolution and its Euromaidan sequel or what can frankly be described as regime change.
The anti-government protests were fueled by Ukraine’s economic decline and the growing resentment of the population against the corruption of the entire Ukrainian political establishment. The irony is that the economic problems in Ukraine are the handiwork of the economic policies and neoliberal restructuring programs of the same Orangists that are now in power in Kiev again.
The supposedly liberal Orangists are sowing the seeds of chaos and social anomie in Ukrainian society. The Orangists have worked to politically galvanize Ukrainians on the basis of sectarian lines and cleavages to divide the population by using a nationalist and anti-Russian discourse.
To rule Ukraine once more, the Orangists and their foreign backers have used and manipulated the ultra-nationalist elements of the population — some of which are openly anti-European Union — as their foot soldiers in an application of force against their democratically-elected opponents.
Despite their views, the ultra-nationalists are actually more honest than the Orangist liberal figures like Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Unlike the misleading and utterly corrupt Orangist leaders, the ultra-nationalists do not hide their agendas and platforms.
The invisible Ukrainian ultra-nationalists
While the mainstream media in North America and the EU look the other way about the ultra-nationalists in the coup government in Kiev, the facts speak for themselves. Both the EU and the U.S. governments have rubbed their elbows with the ultra-nationalists. Oleh Tyahnybok, the leader of Svoboda (formerly the Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine), was even part of the opposition triumvirate that all the U.S. and EU officials visiting Kiev met with while performing their political pilgrimages to Ukraine to encourage the protesters to continue with their demonstrations and riots demanding Euro-Atlantic integration.
Svoboda has popularly been described as a neo-Nazi grouping. The World Jewish Congress has demanded that Svoboda be banned. The ultra-nationalist party was even condemned by the EU’s own European Parliament, which passed a motion on Dec. 13, 2012 categorically condemning Svoboda.
The text adopted by the European Parliament states: “Parliament goes on to express concern about the rising nationalistic sentiment in Ukraine, expressed in support for the Svoboda Party, which, as a result, is one of the two new parties to enter the Verkhovna Rada. It recalls that racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EU’s fundamental values and principles and therefore appeals to pro-democratic parties in the Verkhovna Rada not to associate with, endorse or form coalitions with this party.”
Several members of Svoboda have been given key cabinet and government posts. One of the two junior deputy prime ministers, or assistant deputy prime ministers, is Oleksandr Sych. The ministry of agriculture and food has been given for management to Ihor Shvaika. The environment and natural resources ministry has been assigned to Andry/Andriy Mokhnyk. The defense minister is Ihor Tenyukh, a former admiral in the Ukrainian Navy who obstructed Russian naval movements in Sevastopol during the Russo-Georgian War over South Ossetia and who was later dismissed by the Ukrainian government for insubordination. Oleh Makhnitsky, another member of Svoboda, has been assigned as the new prosecutor-general of Ukraine by the coup government.
Andry Parubiy, one of the founders of Svoboda, is now the post-coup secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine (RNBO). He was the man controlling the so-called “Euromaidan security forces” that fought government forces in Kiev. His job as secretary is to represent the president and act on his behalf in coordinating and implementing the RNBO’s decisions.
As a figure, Parubiy clearly illustrates how the mainstream opposition in Ukraine is integrated with the ultra-nationalists. Parubiy is an Orangist and was a leader in the Orange Revolution. He has changed parties several times. After founding Svoboda, he joined Viktor Yushchenko’s Our Ukraine before joining Yulia Tymoshenko’s Fatherland Party and being elected as one of the Fatherland Party’s deputies, or members of parliament.
The ultra-nationalists are such an integral part of the mainstream opposition that the U.S.-supported Orangist president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushchenko, posthumously awarded the infamous Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera the title and decoration of the “Hero of Ukraine” in 2010. Foreign audiences, however, would not know that if they relied on reportage from the likes of the U.S. state-run Radio Free Europe, which tried to protect Yushchenko because he wanted to reorient Ukraine toward the U.S. and EU. Parubiy also lobbied the European Parliament not to oppose Yushchenko’s decision.
Other smaller ultra-nationalists parties were also given government posts, and several of the independent cabinet members are also aligned to these parties. Dmytro Yarosh from Right Sector (Pravyi Sektor) is the deputy secretary of the RNBO, and the Trizub Party was given the education ministry. Trizub had Sergey Kvit appointed to the post of education minister.
The ultra-nationalists have inconsolably anti-Russian attitudes. Many of them also dislike a vast spectrum of other groups, including Jews, Armenians, Roma, Poles, Tatars, supporters of the Party of Regions and communists. In this context, it should come as no surprise that one of the first decisions that the post-coup regime in Kiev made was to remove the legal status of the Russian language as the regional language of half of Ukraine.
Right Sector is, itself, a coalition of militant ultra-nationalists. These militants were instrumental in fighting government forces and taking over both government buildings in Kiev and regional governments in the western portion of Ukraine. Despite the protests of First Deputy Defense Minister Oleynik, Deputy Defense Minister Mozharovskiy and Deputy Defense Minister Babenk, Arseniy Yatsenyuk’s post-coup government has even given the ultra-nationalist opposition militias official status within the Ukrainian military and security forces. Yatsenyuk and the Orangists also dismissed all the officials that protested that the move would fracture the country and make the political divide in Ukraine irreversible.
Western media silence about the snipers in Ukraine
The role of the ultra-nationalists in executing the coup has been essentially ignored by the mainstream media in North America and the EU. The roots of the bloodshed in Kiev have been ignored, too. The shootings of protesters by snipers have simply been presented as the vile actions of the Ukrainian government, never taking into consideration the agitation of the armed ultra-nationalist gangs and the mainstream opposition leaders for a conflict.
According to a leaked telephone conversation on Feb. 26 between Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and European Union Commissioner Catherine Ashton, which was leaked by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU/SSU) , the snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Ukrainian opposition leaders. Estonian Foreign Minister Paet made the statements on the basis of details he was given by one of the head doctors of the medical team of the anti-government protests, Olga Bogomolets, an opponent of Viktor Yanukovych’s government who wanted it removed from power.
Paet tells Ashton the following first: “There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition.”
This is also corroborated by the fact that Yanukovych actually had ordered the Ukrainian riot police and security forces not to use lethal force.
The Estonian official then mentions that it was verified to him that the same snipers were killing people on both sides. He tells Ashton the following:
“And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides.”
Another important point that Paet makes to Ashton is the following: “[Dr. Olga Bogomolets] then also showed me some photos she said that as a medical doctor she can say that it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it’s really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don’t want to investigate what exactly happened.”
Past reports from the mainstream media that is hostile to the ousted Ukrainian government also raise serious questions that corroborate what has been said about the snipers intentionally killing protesters to instigate regime change.
The Telegraph reported on Feb. 20 that “[a]t least three of the bodies displayed single bullet wounds to the heads,” and “were shot in the head, the neck or the heart. None were shot anywhere else like in the legs.” This means that the snipers were making kill shots by design, which seems like the last thing that the Ukrainian government would want to do when it was trying to appease the protesters and bring calm to Kiev.
The Ukrainian journalist Alexey Yaroshevsky’s account of the sniper shootings is also worth noting, and it is backed up by footage taken by his Russian crew in Kiev. Their footage shows armed opposition members running away from the scene of the shooting of anti-government protesters. What comes across as unusual is that the armed members of the opposition were constantly agitating to start firefights at every opportunity that they could get.
The commandant of the SSU, Major-General Oleksandr Yakimenko, has testified that his counter-intelligence forces were monitoring the CIA in Ukraine during the protests. According to the SSU, the CIA was active on the ground in Kiev and collaborating with a small circle of opposition figures. Yakimenko has also said that it was not the police or government forces that fired on the protesters, but snipers from the Philharmonic Building that was controlled by the opposition leader Andriy Parubiy, which he asserts was interacting with the CIA. Speaking to the Russian media, Yakimenko said that 20 men wearing “special combat clothes” and carrying “sniper rifle cases, as well as AKMs with scopes” ran out of the opposition-controlled Philharmonic Building and split into two groups of 10 people, with one taking position at the Ukraine Hotel. The anti-government protesters even saw this and asked Ukrainian police to pursue them, and even figures from Right Sector and Svoboda asked Yakimenko’s SSU to investigate and apprehend them, but Parubiy prevented it. Major-General Yakimenko has categorically stated that opposition leaders were behind the shootings.
Following the release of the conversation between Paet and Ashton, the Estonian Foreign Ministry confirmed that the leak was authentic, whereas the European Commission kept silent. The mainstream media in North America and the EU either ignored it or said very little. The Telegraph even claimed that Dr. Bogomolets told it that she had not treated any government forces even though she contradicts this directly in an interview with CNN where she says she treated military personnel.
CNN, on the other hand, quickly glossed over the story, giving it only enough attention to create the impression that the network is fairly covering the news. Opting not to give the story the airtime that it deserved, CNN instead posted it on its webpage. The conversation is immediately discredited, undermined and dismissed in the first sentence of the article, which is attributed to Foreign Minister Paet: “Don’t read too much into the conversation.”
The article was deliberately structured by CNN to undermine the important information that would challenge the narrative that the U.S. mainstream media have been painting. The title, sub-titles and opening sentences of most texts act as microcosms or summaries of the articles, and in many cases, readers evaluate or decide to read the articles on the basis of what these texts communicate. Moreover, the first sentence of the article sets the tempo for readers and influences their opinion, too. Although anyone who listens to the conversation between Paet and Ashton and considers the evidence that is being discussed would realize just how important the news was, the message being set forth by CNN was a dismissive one.
The distorted lens justifies supporting an illegitimate government
The mainstream media genuinely selects which narratives prevail by deciding what voices to represent and the quantity and quality of coverage these voices get. Audiences should ask themselves some important questions about this. Whose voices are they hearing, and why? Why are certain voices excluded or deliberately ignored and other voices and points of view not excluded from the conversation? Why are some views credible and others discredited?
Evaluation is needed. The voices and accounts that challenge the narratives that are being promoted as reality to the public are ignored or undermined so that they do not defy the message or vision that the mainstream media is framing for audiences. Circumstances are deliberately left out of the narratives being reported or transmitted in many cases because of the justifications they can provide and the perceptions they can create.
A clear flow of information without any filters from Ukraine would cripple the public support that the governments of the U.S., Canada, Britain, France, Germany and Poland are providing to the coup leaders in Ukraine, which are themselves pawns of the U.S. and its allies. This is why audiences in North America and the EU are being presented a distorted picture by the mainstream media and the reason that there is an intense campaign to discredit the Russian media. Instead, the facts involving the murder of protesters by snipers in Ukraine and the coup have been trivialized, ignored or discredited by the mainstream media in North America and the EU.
Written for Mint Press by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya
About the author:
An award-winning author and geopolitical analyst, Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya is the author of The Globalization of NATO (Clarity Press) and a forthcoming book The War on Libya and the Re-Colonization of Africa. He has also contributed to several other books ranging from cultural critique to international relations. He is a Sociologist and Research Associate at the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), a contributor at the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF), Moscow, and a member of the Scientific Committee of Geopolitica, Italy.
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Just thought would share we have our own discussion on Ukraine at BRF and almost all support Russias action on Crimea and Ukraine
Check out our discussion
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6747&start=800
Check out our discussion
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6747&start=800
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In reference to Putin speech that the West threatened internal unrest in Russia , I think US will increase its support to Chechen Terrorist to destablise Russia internally and tie it down.
Washington’s “Civil Society”: CIA Financing of Chechen and Caucasus Regional Terrorists
They had also provided Assylum to Chechen terrorist in past
U.S. gave asylum to accused Chechen terror leader
Washington’s “Civil Society”: CIA Financing of Chechen and Caucasus Regional Terrorists
They had also provided Assylum to Chechen terrorist in past
U.S. gave asylum to accused Chechen terror leader
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Wats with these Japs .....did they sanction US when it invaded Iraq without Security Council Approval or with Kosovo Referendum was held
Japan PM threatens Moscow with more sanctions over Crimea
Japan PM threatens Moscow with more sanctions over Crimea
19 Mar 2014
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
TOKYO: Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday signed a treaty claiming the Black Sea region as Russian territory after more than 97 per cent of Crimeans voted in favour of Kremlin rule in a disputed referendum.
The West, which has imposed sanctions of its own, condemned Moscow's actions as a blatant annexation of Crimea.
"(Russian action) violates Ukraine's unity, sovereignty and the integrity of its territory, and we condemn it," Abe told a parliamentary committee.
"Our country cannot overlook an attempt to change the status quo by force," he added.
Japan's foreign ministry on Tuesday announced it was suspending negotiations with Russia on easing visa requirements and would not be starting talks on a new investment accord.
"We will consider further measures, while cooperating with G7 nations and other countries," Abe said Wednesday, without elaborating.
The mass-circulation Yomiuri newspaper said that additional action would include restricting visas and freezing assets.
Abe also said Wednesday that, if his schedule permitted, he would attend a G7 summit in the Hague next week called by US President Barack Obama to discuss the escalating showdown with Russia.
Japanese trade minister Toshimitsu Motegi, who was scheduled to attend a Russian investment forum in Tokyo on Wednesday, was "unable to attend" because he had to be in parliament, a ministry official told AFP on Tuesday.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/japan-pm-threatens-moscow/1040888.html
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Austin wrote:Wats with these Japs .....did they sanction US when it invaded Iraq without Security Council Approval or with Kosovo Referendum was held
Japan PM threatens Moscow with more sanctions over Crimea
19 Mar 2014
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
TOKYO: Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday signed a treaty claiming the Black Sea region as Russian territory after more than 97 per cent of Crimeans voted in favour of Kremlin rule in a disputed referendum.
The West, which has imposed sanctions of its own, condemned Moscow's actions as a blatant annexation of Crimea.
"(Russian action) violates Ukraine's unity, sovereignty and the integrity of its territory, and we condemn it," Abe told a parliamentary committee.
"Our country cannot overlook an attempt to change the status quo by force," he added.
Japan's foreign ministry on Tuesday announced it was suspending negotiations with Russia on easing visa requirements and would not be starting talks on a new investment accord.
"We will consider further measures, while cooperating with G7 nations and other countries," Abe said Wednesday, without elaborating.
The mass-circulation Yomiuri newspaper said that additional action would include restricting visas and freezing assets.
Abe also said Wednesday that, if his schedule permitted, he would attend a G7 summit in the Hague next week called by US President Barack Obama to discuss the escalating showdown with Russia.
Japanese trade minister Toshimitsu Motegi, who was scheduled to attend a Russian investment forum in Tokyo on Wednesday, was "unable to attend" because he had to be in parliament, a ministry official told AFP on Tuesday.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/japan-pm-threatens-moscow/1040888.html
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Abe wants to posture for a Sakhalin Island land grab, btw it should be noted that the ruling parties in Ukraine and Japan are strikingly alike due to their rampant Russophobia and their disturbing love affair with WW2 fascism.
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Austin wrote:Wats with these Japs .....did they sanction US when it invaded Iraq without Security Council Approval or with Kosovo Referendum was held
Japan PM threatens Moscow with more sanctions over Crimea
19 Mar 2014
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
TOKYO: Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Wednesday condemned Russia for violating Ukraine's territorial integrity and threatened to impose further sanctions against Moscow over its role in the Crimean crisis.
President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday signed a treaty claiming the Black Sea region as Russian territory after more than 97 per cent of Crimeans voted in favour of Kremlin rule in a disputed referendum.
The West, which has imposed sanctions of its own, condemned Moscow's actions as a blatant annexation of Crimea.
"(Russian action) violates Ukraine's unity, sovereignty and the integrity of its territory, and we condemn it," Abe told a parliamentary committee.
"Our country cannot overlook an attempt to change the status quo by force," he added.
Japan's foreign ministry on Tuesday announced it was suspending negotiations with Russia on easing visa requirements and would not be starting talks on a new investment accord.
"We will consider further measures, while cooperating with G7 nations and other countries," Abe said Wednesday, without elaborating.
The mass-circulation Yomiuri newspaper said that additional action would include restricting visas and freezing assets.
Abe also said Wednesday that, if his schedule permitted, he would attend a G7 summit in the Hague next week called by US President Barack Obama to discuss the escalating showdown with Russia.
Japanese trade minister Toshimitsu Motegi, who was scheduled to attend a Russian investment forum in Tokyo on Wednesday, was "unable to attend" because he had to be in parliament, a ministry official told AFP on Tuesday.
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Well technically speaking Russia took Crimea the same way the USSR took the Kurils. And the whole episode can't leave the Jips with much hope that Russia will give up any of its territory at all. Their reaction is warranted
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Austin wrote:Wats with these Japs .....did they sanction US when it invaded Iraq without Security Council Approval or with Kosovo Referendum was held
That's a really, really stupid decision by Abe.
But I'd expect nothing less from him.
He's destroying even the remote chances to have Russia at least be neutral over the island dispute.
Not to mention that this whole situation makes him look more and more like a US lapdog which I think is not gonna bode well with his nationalist friends.
He should remember that the US is not Japan's neighbor - China and Russia are. After all is said and done, the Japanese will HAVE to find a way of living with Russia and China. Shinzo Abe just made that more difficult. That can not be wise.
You know, it has always amazed me how the Japanese were programmed to think of America as their ally after what was done to them in WWII.
Just goes to show how strong propaganda can be in changing the views of an entire nation.
But I think the new generation of Japanese people don't really swallow all that propaganda as much as the previous one.
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Can some one tell me what is the reaction of CIS and CSTO countries to Ukraine crisis and Crimea ?
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magnumcromagnon wrote:arpakola wrote:
I don't think people understand the context of this video, Far Right MPs Attack TV CEO, Force His Resignation, Throw Him Into A SUV:
...Such peaceful Euro-Maidan protesters...
I have this video with subtitles, and this Pravy Sektor idiot goes into the State Media Building and accuses him first of beeing Kreml puppet and than forces him to sign a termination of his employee status to the state media.