Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News #1

Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency reported the "Admiral Kuznetsov" will undergo repair and modernization during the next three to four years.


I readed this in the following link:

Excellent news! Good to finally see an update on this situation but I will not hold my breath, seeing as Admiral Kuznetsov was scheduled for this sort of modernization all the way back in 2010. 

MotherlandCalls wrote:

Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency reported the "Admiral Kuznetsov" will undergo repair and modernization during the next three to four years.


I readed this in the following link:

Excellent news! Good to finally see an update on this situation but I will not hold my breath, seeing as Admiral Kuznetsov was scheduled for this sort of modernization all the way back in 2010. 

Yes, but i expect the modernization to begin soon, and as you said it has been delayed alot.   

@hachimoto all photos are welcome

GarryB wrote:Last mention I read about was for it to be upgraded from 2014 to 2018 or so... what I want to read about is that it has gone into a dry dock to start upgrade and overhaul... rather than "it will..."

Me too, i think it will be an experiment for the next carrier, install some cats, create an awacs airplane, actually exactly what we discussed before but NOT nuclear powered ( alot of things can go wrong ).

Is the K fitted with a bow sonar?

GarryB wrote:I have read that the propulsion of the Kuznetsov is unreliable... they were developing new compact nuclear power plants for new generation large Russian ships... this would be an excellent opportunity to test them.

It would also be a good way to ensure there was plenty of electricity always available to operate EM cats.

It would make no sense at all to try to develop Steam Cats from scratch and so developing EM cats makes rather more sense...

i would suspect the Kuznetsov probably does not have a bow sonar, but it will likely operate with several ships and subs that do have sonar and would pass any data on to the K using Sigma so that should not be an issue.

But don't they need to cut the K open to be able to place Nuclear powerplants?

Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted by Interfax as saying.
In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html

Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted  by Interfax as saying.
In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html

A fire that killed a single crew member and an oil spill during refuelling ops are the best examples of "serious problems during the course of its lifetime"??? Thats simply pathetic. The author is desperate for something to criticise and that is the best he can come up with?

The US navy trailed the Kuz so they could "lend a hand" if needed? Pfftt... what crap. I'd sooner believe Bibi Netanyahoo helping out in a Gaza working bee to repair the damaged homes of Hamas members...

No wonder I never read the Moscow Times anymore. A foreign (Finnish) media group telling stupid porky pies about Russia....

Big_Gazza wrote:

Flyingdutchman wrote:Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Soviet-era flagship Admiral Kuznetsov, has returned to sea after going into port for maintenance at the Sevmash Shipyards near Arkhangelsk, Interfax reported Monday.
The vessel, Russia's largest, is now heading out into the Barents Sea for post-repair sea trials, ensuring that the ship is in working order before resuming normal combat duties, Western Military District spokesperson Vadim Serga was quoted  by Interfax as saying.
In Russian naval parlance, the Kuznetsov is not a proper aircraft carrier but rather a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, about half the size of a modern U.S. Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. But the Kuznetsov's cruiser capabilities mean that in addition to launching fighter planes, the warship can pummel enemy surface vessels with anti-ship guided missiles.
A U.S. Nimitz-class super-carrier displaces more than 100,000 tons — the standard of measurement for ship sizes. The Kuznetsov, by comparison, displaces a mere 55,000 tons with a full load.
In July, state news agency TASS reported that the Kuznetsov would undergo a massive retrofit at the Sevmash Shipyards in the next three to four years. The vessel has not been extensively serviced since it was launched in 1985, despite having been plagued with a slew of serious problems during the course of its lifetime.
While on deployment in the Mediterranean in 2009, a short circuit aboard the vessel caused a fire that killed one crew member. A month after the incident, an attempt to refuel the vessel at sea caused a large oil spill off the coast of Ireland.
Last year The Daily Beast reported that the U.S. Mediterranean Fleet trailed the Kuznetsov into the Mediterranean to lend a hand in case of an emergency, according to an unidentified U.S. Navy source. "The Kuznetsov might sink," the source said.
The Kuznetsov is Russia's only aircraft carrier of its type to enter service. Its sister ship, the Varyag, was not completed before the collapse of the Soviet Union and was later sold to China for completion after rusting in a Ukrainian shipyard for nearly a decade. The Varyag entered service in the Chinese navy as "the Liaoning" in 2012, making it China's first aircraft carrier.
An older Soviet-era Kiev-class aircraft-carrying cruiser was retrofitted by Sevmash for the Indian Navy and entered service last year as the Vikramaditya.
Although the navy does not have any immediate plans to build any new aircraft carriers of its own, Russia is waiting on the delivery of two French-built Mistral-class amphibious assault carriers over the next two years.
But amid the ongoing sanctions spat between Russia and the West, many NATO members are lobbying Paris to ax the deal, which would bolster Russian naval power.
French President Francois Hollande said in September that France will only deliver the first vessel at the end of October if tensions in Ukraine subside.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/business/article/troubled-russian-aircraft-carrier-kuznetsov-returns-to-sea/508027.html

A fire that killed a single crew member and an oil spill during refuelling ops are the best examples of "serious problems during the course of its lifetime"???  Thats simply pathetic.  The author is desperate for something to criticise and that is the best he can come up with?

The US navy trailed the Kuz so they could "lend a hand" if needed?  Pfftt... what crap.  I'd sooner believe Bibi Netanyahoo helping out in a Gaza working bee to repair the damaged homes of Hamas members...

No wonder I never read the Moscow Times anymore.  A foreign (Finnish) media group telling stupid porky pies about Russia....

+1

"Kuz" left for Barents sea for some training

http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/268764

Still no Mig-29k's?

Nice vid zg18!

I've seen pictures of upgraded su-25's they looked pretty good!!

Will the RU navy upgrade them aswell, or are they definetly out of ( carrier ) service?

Flyingdutchman wrote:I've seen pictures of upgraded su-25's they looked pretty good!!

Will the RU navy upgrade them aswell, or are they definetly out of ( carrier ) service?

Su-33 is only single seater, that is why Ru NAVY need Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings. MiG-29K have its own two seater MiG-29KUB for trainings and NAVY also buy Yak-130 trainers. Yakovlev have in plans carrier trainer version of Yak-130, but we do not know, what version NAVY buy. I hope Ru NAVY will be smart enough to buy additional squadron of 12 MiG-29KUB to place them in Eysk NITKA naval air base for year long constant trainings of navy carrier pilots and new pilots for carrier operations. With naval Su-30SM near, pilots could as well train air combat and naval operations.

Any news about possible renovation?
They should've started ages ago.

Flyingdutchman wrote:Any news about possible renovation?
They should've started ages ago.

The yard is occupied with Ushakov and dock by Nakhimov.
Other then that, the Navy apperently needs the carrier now and will not like to be without a carrier for the next 6-7 years. So perhaps they only make short time modifications and repair, any deep overhaul will have to wait.

Russia’s sole aircraft carrier goes under repairs

The aircraft carrier performed its last long-distance voyage in May 2014, mostly sailing in the Mediterranean Sea

MURMANSK, May 14. /TASS/. Russia’s sole aircraft carrier, The Admiral Kuznetsov, went into the dock of a shipyard in north Russia for repairs, the Northern Fleet’s press office reported on Thursday, giving no timeframe for the repairs.

"The repair workers will first make the ship’s inspection in the dock, after which a decision will be made on the scope of the repairs," the fleet’s press office said, adding the repairs would be carried out by specialists of the 82nd shipyard at Roslyakovo in the Murmansk Region.

The aircraft carrier performed its last long-distance voyage in May 2014, mostly sailing in the Mediterranean Sea.

The Northern Fleet’s press office earlier reported that deck-based aircraft pilots had been on combat duty aboard the Admiral Kuznetsov responsible for air defense of a Russian Navy task force.

The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier also took part in several naval drills, practising air fights.

The Admiral Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser is the sole vessel of this type in the Russian Navy.

The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier was laid down at a Black Sea shipyard on September 1, 1982 and entered service on December 4, 1985.

During its voyages, the ship carries Sukhoi Su-25UTG (NATO reporting name: Frogfoot-B) and Su-33 (Flanker-D) aircraft and Kamov Ka-27 and Ka-29 (Helix) helicopters.

"Admiral Kuznetsov" Taking a Long Nap

http://7fbtk.blogspot.fi/2015/05/admiral-kuznetsov-taking-long-nap.html

AirCargo wrote:"Admiral Kuznetsov" Taking a Long Nap

http://7fbtk.blogspot.fi/2015/05/admiral-kuznetsov-taking-long-nap.html

Just repair work, not any serious modernization and the ship will be back in 2017...

Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
I was thinking about Argentine?

Flyingdutchman wrote:
I was thinking about Argentine?

Not this country. Economically too weak for a carrier.

Flyingdutchman wrote:Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
I was thinking about Argentine?

hahahaha, hope the Russians have taste for lots of beef then.

Flyingdutchman wrote:Is there a possibility that Admiral Kuznetsov Will be sold?
I was thinking about Argentine?

I think Kuznetsov will stay in RuNAVY until the new carrier will be build.

Argentina could buy Spanish carrier Principe de Asturias or Italian Giuseppe Garibaldi, when it will be on sale. For carrier based planes they could opt for Russia to restart Yak-141 development and production.