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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:32 pm

    This is a fairly small and light vehicle... the PKT looks quite big in comparison.

    I think the area between the upper and lower set of rockets looks rather large and probably contains servo arms to manually depress the launch buttons on those rocket launchers. This would mean standard run of the mill launchers could be attached.

    In such a case I would probably have mounted two more on the end and had 6 ready to launch 72mm rockets. If that is the case then I would go for the RShG-2 assault rocket launcher as its 72.5mmrocket would not over load the vehicle, but its thermobaric warhead should make short work of non armoured targets. for light armoured targets or light and medium vehicles the RPG-26 can penetrate 440mm of armour which should deal with most non tank targets. For heavier threats then I would not mount Kornet-EM on an unmanned vehicle... it would be better suited to a Tigr-M with more ready to fire ammo.

    Just my opinion of course... Smile
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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:20 am

    GarryB wrote:or 4 Kornet-EM's!

    Apparently, they're thinking about an unmanned-robotic Kornet launcher mounted on a Tigr

     Arrow Russian army may soon get a combat robot on the basis of "Tiger" with ATGM "Kornet"
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    Post  medo Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:16 am

    They should also make some of those robots armed with Kornet ATGMs and with Igla-S MANPADs. Considering those robots are small, they could be quite easy to hide and very practical for ambushes or for exposed defense. Protected with robots with machine guns and RPOs against infantry and with recce UAVs to find and track enemies, they could be very deadly in such positions and well reduce exposure of the soldiers.
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    Post  Sujoy Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:18 pm

    Platform-M combat robot introduced at Kaliningrad military exercises

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    Russia Beyond The Headlines wrote:For the first time, Russia’s armed forces have conducted war games with the participation of new Platform-M combat robots. In the course of the exercises by the Baltic Fleet, which took place in mid-June near Kaliningrad, the robotic combat platforms, armed with grenade launchers and Kalashnikov rifles, saw their first action, executing their military missions alongside their live colleagues. The dry runs coincided with the multinational Saber Strike 2014 and Baltops 2014 exercises being carried out by NATO in the same area.

    Unfamiliar weaponry

    According to the exercise plan, paratroopers and coastal troops had to liquidate a group of militants with the support of a SU-34 destroyer-bomber, SU-24 naval aviation frontline bombers and MI-24 military transportation helicopters.

    While many are familiar with this technology, as well as with the BPM, BTR and even the BPLA tanks, the appearance of robots in the Russian armed forces is a new phenomenon. Previously this kind of Russian technology could only be seen at various exhibitions.

    It was understood that robotic combat platforms (as the military "robots" are properly called) had been included in the armed forces when they appeared in Kaliningrad at the World War II victory parade on May 9. However, it was unclear up to the very last moment how prepared the robots were to execute their military missions.


    According to the press office of the Western Military District, during the Platform-M exercises "the military robots were assigned to eliminate provisional illegal armed formations in urban conditions and striking stationary and mobile targets." It was also mentioned that the Platforms carried out their tasks alongside the little Grusha BPLA reconnaissance drones. The units were also used to gather intelligence and create a passage through minefields that, according to the exercise plan, had been laid by terrorists.


    A deadly version of an animated character

    The Platform-M is a remote controlled robotic unit on a crawler and externally it resembles the protagonist of the 2008 Pixar computer animation WALL-E.

    The affinity between Platform-M and the animated character can also be seen in the robot's prototype, which appeared on the Russian internet in an animated presentation. In the video, the robotic vehicles, which resemble Platform-M (only on wheels instead of tracks), easily destroy a force of enemy militants armed with NATO weaponry.

    According to some data provided by the Russian military, the Platform-M unit is supplied with "a differentiated defensive chassis and a firing platform and can carry out combative tasks during the night without unmasking instruments."

    The robot is armed with the famous Kalashnikov rifle made in Izhevsk and four grenade launchers.
    At the Progress Scientific Research Technological Institute of Izhevsk, where it was made, the "crawling creation" was given the following assessment: "Platform-M is a universal combat platform. It is used for gathering intelligence, for discovering and eliminating stationary and mobile targets, for firepower support, for patrolling and for guarding important sites. The unit's weapons can be guided, it can carry out supportive tasks and it can destroy targets in automatic or semiautomatic control systems; it is supplied with optical-electronic and radio reconnaissance locators."

    Heir to the Moon rovers

    The Platform-M did not appear out of the blue. In Russia, robotic technology has existed since the days of the Moon rovers. Back in 1964 the Russian Air Force acquired a system of long-range pilotless photo and radio technological reconnaissance called the DBP-1. This reconnaissance machine, launched from western parts of the country, could carry out its assignments over all of Central and Western Europe.

    In 1973 the Soviet Union initiated the first state scientific and technological program devoted to the creation and implementation of industrial robots. Consequently, by 1985 the USSR had 40 percent of the world's industrial robots at its disposal, having surpassed the U.S. These units were guided by network-centric principles and artificial intelligence was embedded in the military sphere.
    The anti-ship P-700 Granit unit was used in the Soviet Navy in 1983. Its peculiarity consisted in missiles that during salvos would line up in combat formation, exchange information and distribute targets among themselves. One rocket could even become a leader, occupying a higher echelon. Today the task of group interaction has a broader dimension.

    Russia has significant knowhow and technological capacity in this field, including expertise which is unrivaled elsewhere. However, having lost 20 years, today Russian scientists are only now catching up.

    http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/07/03/platform-m_combat_robot_introduced_at_kaliningrad_military_exercise_36413.html
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:37 pm

    One fights for petyaryh, Intelligent control system:

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:37 am

    Platform-M used in some Russian naval exercises, as you can see another practical use for Platform-M:

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    ...As you see a rational application of Platform-M is to patrol/guard coastlines on anti-"frogman" duty, and with the proper IR/NV monitor channels you can easily patrol/guard coastline at night on stand by mode without burning gas and the UCGV can be siting idol and being controlled safely from several km's away from a command post on base. There is where the soldiers controlling the vehicle go on 2-4 hour patrol duty where there's 12 men with 12 shifts, or 6 men with 6 shifts respectively, where breaks and getting rest are taken in to consideration which helps break up the monotony of drone patrol duty.
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    Post  Flanky Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:18 pm

    Don't forget this one: MRK-27 BT
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    Also, most of you probably know about this concept:
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:06 am

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    Post  George1 Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:05 pm

    New robots entered service in the Russian army

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    Post  George1 Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:11 pm

    Combat Robot-Avatar Revealed to Russian President Putin

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    A new robot-avatar, designed to have functions comparable to those of a human being, was revealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Central Institute for Scientific Research Tochmash on Tuesday.

    MOSCOW, January 20 (Sputnik) – Russian President Vladimir Putin visited the Central Scientific Research Institute of Precision Engineering Tochmash in the town of Klimovsk, Moscow region on Tuesday, where he was presented to a new robot-avatar that could function similar to a human.

    The human-like robot made five shots with its gun and drove a quad around the training area. Special sensors, attached to the robot’s limbs, allow an operator to drive the robot remotely.

    The combat robot was designed to have functions comparable to those of a human being. The machine is expected to be able to effectively work on its own in the conditions of human infrastructure, travel on a variety of terrains, drive a vehicle and provide emergency medical aid.

    Besides, the new robot, Putin had a chance to examine new protective military equipment that is designed to enhance soldiers’ protection on the battlefield. In addition to the new body armor, new types of guns were also presented to Putin, including a new sniper rifle.

    Tochmash is Russia’s leading research institute specializing in the development and manufacture of military equipment, ammunition, optical-electronic devices and small arms training simulators. Tochmash institute was established in 1944 and is currently part of the state-owned technologies corporation Rostec.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:43 pm

    and few more pictures from Russian combat robots ...



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    Post  George1 Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:44 pm

    This must be Russian Robo-soldier (analogue of Robocup) Smile
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:13 am

    Well the main advantage is that weapons and equipment would not need too much adaptation for this robot to use, plus you could use psychology in its design... when confronted with a human like robot most people will treat it like a human and shoot it in the head or centre of the chest.

    You could use this as a designer to put nothing of critical importance in those areas so the enemy will waste time shooting at parts that are not really vulnerable to enemy fire.

    Even anti armour weapons blow a narrow hole through large amounts of armour so a head shot with a Kornet or TOW would likely destroy the head but if it has eyes elsewhere like in the hands or on the shoulders it could continue to function until something critical was hit like the battery or electronics boards.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:40 am

    GarryB wrote:Well the main advantage is that weapons and equipment would not need too much adaptation for this robot to use, plus you could use psychology in its design... when confronted with a human like robot most people will treat it like a human and shoot it in the head or centre of the chest.

    You could use this as a designer to put nothing of critical importance in those areas so the enemy will waste time shooting at parts that are not really vulnerable to enemy fire.

    Even anti armour weapons blow a narrow hole through large amounts of armour so a head shot with a Kornet or TOW would likely destroy the head but if it has eyes elsewhere like in the hands or on the shoulders it could continue to function until something critical was hit like the battery or electronics boards.

    Why not install a module that sets the robot in revenge mode and with red LED eyes and when you shoot at it just says: "You are damaging Government Issue" while reaching at your throat. Laughing
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:28 pm

    They pretty much went and ahead and said that this robot will operate autonomously. They mentioned driving vehicles and made it part of their demonstration here too. And they also mentioned emergency medical aid.

    That actually sounds like a reasonable first use for them. Driving their own medevac vehicles, zipping into areas under fire and evacuating wounded - including those in no-man's land.
    A conservative role, won't endanger other soldiers or civilians - but at the same time a quite demanding and gruelling one, and not the sort of job that any living human being excels at; it's perfect for robots.

    The other use that has been hinted at is as a sort of scout; what with the quad-buggie and its autonomy/independence and everything - but UAVs are better for that kind of thing and a lot cheaper.

    Nice prototype anyway. Over the next 10 years it will no doubt undergo improvements, different materials will be experimented with too, as both attempts to make it more durable, and reduce its cost. There might be a few trials and so on in the coming years; albeit nothing too extensive. It's really on the level of an experiment for now.
    By the mid 2020s the technology will have reached a stage of maturity whereby series production of the first models can start; for use in medevac duties.. and we'll see where it goes from there.

    And in all seriousness, probably another of the real perspective uses of such a robot would be in heavy-duty law enforcement (SWAT-type operations)
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:06 am

    Another factor is that the robot can operate in conditions too hot or too cold or too radioactive for actual humans.

    He can also "lift mines", or deal with unexploded ordinance (UXO) in a way that a human can't... don't cut the red wire...
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    Post  collegeboy16 Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:16 pm

    looks funny, helmet looks like from daft punk. they shouldve made it(allowed it?) flip the bird to the cameras at least once, that should shut up most bashers.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:49 am

    Kyo wrote:

    Boring! The controller should have accelerated to a nice fast speed and taken some sharp corners.

    I wonder what the control lag is like on the arms and hands of this robot.
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    Post  AbsoluteZero Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:17 am

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    in the article, it was mentioned that the robot had fired a pistol, too bad they didn't show it on video..
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:00 am

    We'll get a better look at these during the V-Day parade....they're taking part AFAIK
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    Post  Regular Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:52 pm

    That Daft Punk robot was really pathetic. Embarassed Compare it to Boston Dynamics works. I should be worked on before actually showing it. Net analogov vmire. Ffs. Hope they are not running on air and have proper financing.
    I'm possitive about those unmmaned fighting vehicles. They would be perfect for VDV. You can fit two of them instead of 1 BMD if there is a need to have more firepower. This vehicle could serve as a platform for SHORAD as in today it's very automatized. 1 operator would be enough. It could be semi autonomous with operator only needed to clarify and engage the targets.

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