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Anti-tank Uran?
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Where I got it from:
An innovative direction in the development of weapons of MFA of the Ground Forces is the creation of multifunctional robotic systems in order to increase the effectiveness of hostilities and reduce the losses of personnel of forward and reconnaissance units during combined arms and counter-terrorist operations, including in urbanized areas and in urban conditions.
The main areas of application of firing (strike) robotic missile and artillery systems that ensure the fulfillment of the tasks of the Ground Forces are:
- breaking through a prepared enemy defense;
- providing defensive actions of tactical formations by creating a robotic system
- firing points in the cover zone of subunits to combat enemy manpower and armored targets;
- providing fire support for advancing units and subunits and suppressing fire resistance through the use of mobile robotic systems equipped with anti-tank weapons;
- protection and defense of positional areas, firing (starting) positions.
It is quite obvious that as a result of equipping the MFA formations of the Ground Forces with robotic complexes, qualitative changes will follow in their organizational structure, technical equipment, and combat capabilities.
Thus, the development of the organizational and staff structure of the missile forces and artillery of the Ground Forces should be carried out through a quantitative build-up of missile forces and artillery groupings, increasing the characteristics of "traditional" weapons, as well as by introducing qualitatively new MFA formations armed with the latest models that implement breakthrough solutions in the development of promising weapons, control and support, including robotic ones, united in a single intelligence and information space.
Collection "Missile-technical and artillery-technical support of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - 2018"
https://btvtinfo.blogspot.com/2019/02/blog-post_18.html
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Uran-6 mining robot in Nagorno-Karabakh
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Could use those in a lot of places around the world... mines and UXO are an ongoing problem in a lot of places, and they continue to take a toll on the civilians who try to continue on these former battlefields...
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https://vpk.name/news/469564_gosispytaniya_boevogo_robota_uran-9_zavershayutsya_raboty_po_soratniku_i_shturmu_prodolzhayutsya-glavkom_suhoputnyh_voisk.html
Russian army finished state tests for Uran-9 combat robot. We could now expect, it will soon go in serial production and in army armament.
Uran-9 could actually be excellent VSHORAD air defense complex and anti UAV weapon. Prototypes already have combination of Ataka and Igla missiles. As VSHORAD Uran-9 could use 4 Verba missiles instead of Shmel-M rockets with range of 6,5 km and 4 9M220O anti aircraft laser guided Ataka missiles with range of 7 km. 30 mm 2A72 gun also become very useful with new air burst ammunition. Against single targets it could use Ataka missiles with longer range and heavier warhead, but against more targets it could use Verba missiles with quickly bringing fire from one target to another as it doesn't need to guide Verba missile. What comes closer it could engage with gun with air burst ammunition. One control center could control two Uran robots, so one battery of 6 Uran-9 robots will have three control centers and one battery CP. All of them could be hiden in underground bunkers, they only need antennas outside to control robots. Inside battery robots could cover each other in time of refueling and reloading and could be constantly on alert. Even if enemy destroy a robot, you will not lost a crew. With other words robot against robot. Uran-9 is smaller than other similar SAMs and with that easier to mask and hide. I hope Russian army could bring first Uran-9 batteries to Artzakh for air defense of their bases.
Москва. 9 декабря. ИНТЕРФАКС - Работы по созданию робототехнических комплексов тяжёлого и среднего класса "Штурм" и "Соратник" продолжаются, их внедрение изменит способы применения общевойсковых формирований при ведении боевых действий, заявил главнокомандующий Сухопутными войсками генерал армии Олег Салюков.
"В этом году завершаются государственные испытания боевого робототехнического комплекса (РТК) "Уран-9". Одновременно в целях формирования высокотехнологичных подразделений Сухопутных войск продолжаются работы по созданию наземных РТК тяжёлого и среднего класса ("Штурм" и "Соратник"). Внедрение в войска и развитие теории их боевого использования будут способствовать изменению порядка и способов применения общевойсковых формирований при ведении боевых действий", - сказал Салюков в интервью, которое публикует в среду газета "Красная звезда".
По его словам, наряду с перспективными образцами вооружения большое значение уделяется созданию боевой экипировки военнослужащих, перспективных образцов стрелкового, гранатомётного оружия и боеприпасов к ним.
"В настоящее время проводятся государственные испытания перспективной 7,62-мм самозарядной снайперской винтовки и прицелов с улучшенными тактико-техническими характеристиками", - сообщил главнокомандующий.
Согласно открытым данным, боевой РТК "Уран-9" разработан ОАО "766 УПТК". Робот предназначен для ведения разведки, огневой поддержки пехоты и уничтожения танков. "Уран-9" способен поражать цели на расстоянии до 5 000 метров в дневное время и 3000 метров ночью. На вооружении 12-тонного комплекса состоит 30-мм автоматическая пушка 2А72, 7,62-мм пулемет, реактивные огнеметы "Шмель-М" и комплекс управляемого вооружения "Атака" с противотанковыми ракетами.
Комплекс "Уран-9" впервые был продемонстрирован на Параде Победы 9 мая 2018 года. За несколько дней до этого бывший тогда заместителем министра обороны Юрий Борисов сообщил, что этот комплекс был задействован в ходе сирийской кампании.
Moscow. 9th December. INTERFAX - Work on the creation of robotic systems of heavy and middle class "Shturm" and "Companion" continues, their implementation will change the way combined-arms formations are used in the conduct of hostilities, General of the Army Oleg Salyukov, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, said.
"This year, the state tests of the Uran-9 combat robotic complex (RTK) are being completed. At the same time, in order to form high-tech units of the Ground Forces, work continues on the creation of heavy and medium-class ground RTKs (Shturm and Companion). and the development of the theory of their combat use will contribute to a change in the order and methods of using combined-arms formations in the conduct of hostilities, "Salyukov said in an interview published by the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper on Wednesday.
According to him, along with promising weapons, great importance is attached to the creation of combat equipment for military personnel, promising models of small arms, grenade launchers and ammunition for them.
"At present, state tests are underway for a promising 7.62-mm self-loading sniper rifle and sights with improved tactical and technical characteristics," the commander-in-chief said.
According to open data, the Uran-9 combat missile system was developed by the 766 UPTK OJSC. The robot is designed to conduct reconnaissance, fire support for infantry and destroy tanks. Uran-9 is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 5,000 meters in the daytime and 3,000 meters at night. The 12-ton complex is armed with a 30-mm 2A72 automatic cannon, a 7.62-mm machine gun, Shmel-M jet flamethrowers and an Attack guided weapon system with anti-tank missiles.
The Uran-9 complex was first demonstrated at the Victory Parade on May 9, 2018. A few days before that, the then Deputy Minister of Defense, Yuri Borisov, said that this complex had been used during the Syrian campaign.
Russian army finished state tests for Uran-9 combat robot. We could now expect, it will soon go in serial production and in army armament.
Uran-9 could actually be excellent VSHORAD air defense complex and anti UAV weapon. Prototypes already have combination of Ataka and Igla missiles. As VSHORAD Uran-9 could use 4 Verba missiles instead of Shmel-M rockets with range of 6,5 km and 4 9M220O anti aircraft laser guided Ataka missiles with range of 7 km. 30 mm 2A72 gun also become very useful with new air burst ammunition. Against single targets it could use Ataka missiles with longer range and heavier warhead, but against more targets it could use Verba missiles with quickly bringing fire from one target to another as it doesn't need to guide Verba missile. What comes closer it could engage with gun with air burst ammunition. One control center could control two Uran robots, so one battery of 6 Uran-9 robots will have three control centers and one battery CP. All of them could be hiden in underground bunkers, they only need antennas outside to control robots. Inside battery robots could cover each other in time of refueling and reloading and could be constantly on alert. Even if enemy destroy a robot, you will not lost a crew. With other words robot against robot. Uran-9 is smaller than other similar SAMs and with that easier to mask and hide. I hope Russian army could bring first Uran-9 batteries to Artzakh for air defense of their bases.
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Farmers would love that... mine clearance and rotary hoe.... get rid of UXO and prepare the ground to put the potatoes in....
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"Rise of Machines": the first tests of target robots were held in Patriot Park
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Its not Russian army robots, but if the video is not just a CGI creation it seems Boston dynamics is slightly ahead of the robotics race. The Russian FEDOR kinda lack the mobility that is demonstrated by those robots in the video.
If Russia can develop drones like the ones below it would be a BIG leap in their robotics program
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I do wonder how practical something like those terror drones from Red Alert would be in real life
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The Uran-9 will run over this Boston shitnamics robot without even noticing it.
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The Boston Dynamics robot is actually behind the Russian robot in terms of practicality: it has no hands, lol. Which is understandable, hands are pretty hard compared to furthering humanoid mobility. Certainly not as flashy as a robot performing a dance routine, but flashy does attract the moneyed idiots investors more than banal utility. Still, they are more than enough to replace those dancing tiktok nurses, in terms of entertainment value as well as usefulness.
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Easy targets for soldiers. Ak-12 is enough to destroy such things. Armor them and they would be usefull 10 minutes before needing to recharge their batteries.
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Robotic platform "Marker" tested in a completely autonomous mode
The experimental robotic platform "Marker" was tested in a completely autonomous mode, the tests were carried out in the Chelyabinsk region. This was reported by the press service of the Foundation for Advanced Study (FPI).
According to the report, the platform automatically covered 30 km along an unprepared route - forest-steppe with snow cover. Having received the route assignment only with the coordinates of the point of arrival, "Marker" independently laid the route and ensured arrival at the destination in an hour and a half, relying on the data of the technical vision system.
The autonomous control system of the platform movement provides autonomous laying and adjustment of the route of movement in the event of obstacles - trees, rises, ravines, bushes, etc. The technical characteristics of the platform provide the possibility of autonomous operation for up to 48 hours on paved roads and up to 24 hours on rough terrain. - says the FPI message.
In the future plans of the developers, the autonomous movement of the platform over a distance of 50, 100 and 200 km.
The beginning of tests of the robotic platform "Marker", created jointly by the Foundation for Advanced Research and NPO "Android Technology", was announced in early March 2019. The platform is designed in a modular fashion. In the future, such a technical solution will make it possible to quickly replace the payload, observation systems, and also upgrade the robot.
The ultimate goal of the Marker project is to create a completely autonomous complex capable of independently performing a wide range of works. The operator will be able to set a task, and the robot will solve all other issues on its own - to build a route, look for a target and use weapons.
Robotic platform "Marker" tested in a completely autonomous mode
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I would be wary of any robot concept taken from sci-fi and anime. These concepts are pulled from the fantasy anus and not
from real world constraints. Robots will have to evolve like all life to find their niches. We do not know what these new
"species" will look like today.
Sure we know that there will be flying robots and earth bound robots, but the details are not there. The robotic dog concept
as an assistant for infantry makes more sense than any humanoid form. Walking spider tanks does not appear to be such
a great concept. Off-road mobility has not been a show stopper for tracked tanks before. And we are nowhere near the
AI stage where full autonomy is possible. The PR hyped "AI" is glorified regression analysis with neural networks. It not
actual AI but has elements that will eventually serve to create real AI such as visual processing as part of general pattern
recognition.
from real world constraints. Robots will have to evolve like all life to find their niches. We do not know what these new
"species" will look like today.
Sure we know that there will be flying robots and earth bound robots, but the details are not there. The robotic dog concept
as an assistant for infantry makes more sense than any humanoid form. Walking spider tanks does not appear to be such
a great concept. Off-road mobility has not been a show stopper for tracked tanks before. And we are nowhere near the
AI stage where full autonomy is possible. The PR hyped "AI" is glorified regression analysis with neural networks. It not
actual AI but has elements that will eventually serve to create real AI such as visual processing as part of general pattern
recognition.
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Robots become susceptible to EW and what if the enemy disables them or uses them against you?
Nah.
Nah.
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Boston dynamics is doing this for years now. Running robots. Jumping robots. Now dancing robots. Not one of this things was put into service anywhere.
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PhSt wrote:
Its not Russian army robots, but if the video is not just a CGI creation it seems Boston dynamics is slightly ahead of the robotics race. The Russian FEDOR kinda lack the mobility that is demonstrated by those robots in the video.
What's with you? All your posts seems like they're always inflammatory Chicken-Little styled "The sky is falling, Mayan Calendar 2012 the world is ending!" exaggeration of something. The idea of anthropomorphic robots dancing as a means of causing alarm is absolutely laughable! Especially when you consider Boston Dynamics was bought by Google, and they were forced to sell Boston Dynamics a couple years later......Almost like they had buyers remorse, like they were lured by false advertisement.
Also lets take the Wests 'leading in swarming drones' narrative (like all there other narratives). How can they be leading when The USSR created P-500 Bazalt which was designed in the 1960's that still surpasses their swarm drones by at least 10 orders of magnitude?
https://www.russiadefence.net/t7159p150-russian-defence-against-drone-swarms#303420
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Toy drone swarms are a new thing. So all the sci-fi delusions fanbois are wetting their panties with excitement. You know,
Hollywood made some movies recently featuring this wunderwaffen so they must be a serious thing.
A word of warning to the "Russia cannot into tech" people. It has been demonstrated for decades that Russian weapons development
is not hyped Elon Musk style. Just because you hear nothing about it from your favourite blogger, does not mean that Russia
has no ability to do anything and just sits there watching the mighty west reach the stars with its hyperdrive spaceships.
Hollywood made some movies recently featuring this wunderwaffen so they must be a serious thing.
A word of warning to the "Russia cannot into tech" people. It has been demonstrated for decades that Russian weapons development
is not hyped Elon Musk style. Just because you hear nothing about it from your favourite blogger, does not mean that Russia
has no ability to do anything and just sits there watching the mighty west reach the stars with its hyperdrive spaceships.
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The simpler and cheaper the robot is the more chances are that it will be in military service. We are yet to see any useful product, even Fedor is just a metal Fedya - a demonstrator.. Those dancing robots are impressive and Boston Dynamics are probably are leaders in this niche field (only competing with universities mostly), but their robots are too complicated even for hospital/care use, I don't even mention military. Exosuits replace need of robotics in care/hospital enviroment and militaries in the world are not holding their breath either. Logistics is something that are being robotised, but again, with simple devices like self driving kits for forklifts, pallets builders/movers and etc. It's all done by Chinese companies and big players like Toyota.
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