Russian Army Robots

If its operating with NATO ROE sure, it will do great.

Define a safe zone that any heat source outside of it that so much as moves without waving an IFF around gets ventilated.

Makes sense for guarding nuclear installations, not so much winning hearts and minds...

Funny you say that... when was the last war the US tried to win hearts and minds?

They just go for the oil.

Define a safe zone that any heat source outside of it that so much as moves without waving an IFF around gets ventilated.

While that would certainly be a bad idea to deploy that in Ukraine it would be perfect for Finland Poland or Pindostan.

Kinda have to agree with you there... if HATO is going to ignore Ukrainian citizens being shelled and killed by Kiev for the better part of the last decade and claims Russia moving in to stop them makes Russia the enemy and funds and weapons and ammo is sent to the criminal regime in Kiev to kill Russians AND any Ukrainian civilians that are with them or don't try to fight them then you have to say it is total war with HATO and therefore HATO countries can't expect Russia to take steps to preserve innocent lives in any extension of this conflict into HATO territory.

Russia does not want to kill Ukrainians because most of them don't want this war and probably can't mentally process how they got here... with the US and EU and HATO cheerleading them into a slaughterhouse but closing the doors behind them and staying outside... you blame yourself for being so gullible, but the US and EU and HATO also are responsible too... and they are getting rid of a lot of cold war era crap and they think upgrading their military in the process, but the cost is going to be enormous... even just replacing weapons and equipment let alone the stores of ammo they will need to accumulate just to fight a single week.

The new weapons and ammo and equipment is going to mean their funding for their military is going to have to massively increase... at a time when they don't pay their nurses enough, or their teachers, or anyone else really...

I rather expect a lot of HATO countries are going to do the drone thing and claim a ground based robot can replace a tank... which will be interesting... we have seen how successful they have been replacing Cold War era tanks so far.

https://rutube.ru/video/358eda9ec7449c79206a3a4386a22352/


The War in Ukraine is a good opportunity to test Russia's latest unmanned ground drones. would be nice to see a couple of these taking out NATO equipment.

A few more pics and info of this.

Chisel", an unmanned vehicle for supporting assault squads.

The device can work on air targets, lightly armored vehicles and enemy manpower. It has the ability to deliver the equipment, ammunition and weapons necessary for the assault group, as well as evacuate the wounded.

The length of this land drone is 7465 mm, width - 2550 mm, height - 2100 mm. Clearance - 320 mm. The curb weight is 13300 kg, and the total weight is 16000 kg. Load capacity - 2700 kg. Engine power - 350 hp The maximum speed on the highway is 100 km / h.

I think I would like it better if it had a better system for ammo, so instead of the normal 50 round box positions on each side of the gun, they had an ammo feed leading round to the back of the mount with a huge box area split in half for a few thousand rounds that turns with the gun so you can fire more than 100 rounds before having to reload...

Design the mount so you can swap out different guns from PKTs to Kords and KPVs and 30mm and 40mm grenade launchers to this mount with two single barrel 23mm cannon or perhaps the 23mm gun mounted on the current Hinds with the 23x115mm shells.

Maybe even up to a 82mm auto mortar like Vasilek.

I have always though the Vasilek to be the ideal fire support gun, unlike small calibre autocoannon and grenade launchers it can destroy obstacles and cover while having an excellent combination of effective blast radius and fire rate, the only other thing in it's class is the 57mm dual presure cannon from the Epocha turret.

These are civilian based cleaning robots but are fitted with radar and LIDAR to do their job.

LIDAR technology would be an excellent short range method of detecting things like drones with low radar and IR signature without being detectable over enormous distances like radar.



These ground based vehicles are not the only drones fitted with LIDAR, airborne drones also use it for mapping terrain and obstructions with great levels of precision in 3D.

So essentially this is a light vehicle that moves with infantry that can carry ammo and supplies, that you can plug things in the charge while on the battlefield like PDAs and drones and night vision equipment and radios etc.

If someone gets injured you can put them on this thing to take them to the rear so they can get medical attention and while it is back there it could pick up more ammo if needed.

Infantry combat uses a lot of hand grenades and disposable rocket launchers and other equipment and being able to send this vehicle back to friendly positions would be useful.

It is shown with a twin barrel 23mm cannon but could just as easily have a remote weapon station with a PKT or Kord HMG or 30mm or 40mm grenade launcher and rather more grenades than an infantry unit could normally carry.

The low velocity and area effect of grenades like this will allow you to hit enemy positions.

A general infantry drone is one thing but a ATGM team or a Kord team or 30mm or 40mm grenade launcher team with a couple of drones could deploy on the front line and send a drone up to look for enemy positions out of line of sight. The curved trajectory of the grenade launchers means that targets up to 2km away could be engaged easily with the rounds going over hedge rows and forests and landing on enemy troops moving forward.

A Pintle mount on this drone would radically minimise the spread of grenades and a drone launched straight up could view the enemy 2km away so fire can be corrected and would be devastating and they would have no idea where it was coming from... unless they saw your drone popping up 2km away.

Even 23mm cannon fire with HE rounds could do the same job.

The light twin 23mm cannon firing the reduced power 23 x 115mm rounds could launch volleys of 50 explosive shells in a one second burst... the rounds are similar in size to HMG ammo.

They could certainly develop APFSDS rounds if they wanted to which would be devastating.

The 23 x 115mm round is based on the 14.5x114mm anti tank rifle round and KPV HMG/light cannon. A 23mm cal version would allow more pressure and higher velocities with the increased calibre.

Such a round would need to be fired on its own because it would not hit anywhere near any other 23mm cartridge, so a mixed belt would be pointless, but of course you would use APFSDS round against armoured targets and light vehicles while HE rounds would be used against soft targets so putting them in separate belts makes sense anyway.

A stabilised RWS with all weather optics would make it rather effective.

Those robots are likely still being developed but sometimes the guys in the field have a better understanding of what they need.

I mean if someone stands up and starts firing with a PKM machine gun then the enemy are going to try to stop him as fast as they can... now depending on the level of body armour he is wearing that could be shots to the chest or to the gut or to the face or to the legs... the point is that eventually the bullets are going to get a soft spot and he will go down and try to get help or be dead.

If a tiny wheeled vehicle like the one pictured above rolls up and starts blazing away... where do you shoot it and with what?

It is probably too small to hit with your average RPG and even ATGMs will struggle to hit such a tiny target... you could shoot the gun or the wheels but you might have to put a huge number of rounds into it before you stop it firing... and then another one pops up... or it popped up when the first one popped up but it didn't fire... it was just using its thermal camera and special optics to locate enemy firing positions so they could be marked on a map and it could then start firing at those positions and then three more little vehicles pop up and start firing.

Pretty soon the other side learns to just keep their heads down, so then you start sending these drones forward into enemy positions to make them respond... but if you coordinate the attack with several of these plus drones in the air and even vehicle sitting back from the line observing with their modern optics then the enemy positions will be revealed and can be attacked.

They have a range of remote weapon stations they are putting on vehicles with stabilised weapons accurate out to 2km or more depending on which weapon is mounted.

The drone above looks small and light and might be used for flanking or overwatch as your platoon moves forward providing support with magnfied all weather optics and a stabilised fully supported machinegun.

Some of the bigger models with 30mm cannon turrets looked a bit like overkill but in urban areas it would be rather useful against targets hiding behind log bunkers and sandbags...

I would say slightly bigger drones that can carry vastly more ammo might be useful for sustained fire support and also to carry the platoons belted ammo so their load is lighter and all the ammo is ready to fire.

The use of AI for aerial drones to find and identify targets could be taken further with ground based drones to move forward to find some of those targets and deal with them. A PKT has a longer heavier barrel than the standard PKM and it should be capable of reasonable accuracy out to significant ranges. On a solid mount with stabilised all weather magnified optics it should be a rather power support weapon on a modern battlefield with tracks that are wide enough to stop it sinking.

In fact you could make it amphibious so it wont get stuck and can zip around in conditions where nothing else can move on the ground...

People see the robots with guns and think they are what will be normal but I would say the most useful robot would just be a mule type robot that follows troops around carrying heavy stuff like water and ammo and perhaps a heavy support weapon, but also charger ports to charge up sights and radios and other electronic equipment, and also to carry jammers etc. Even being able to take injured soldiers back to be treated. And of course mine clearance drones would be valuable too... something you can send first... and attract enemy fire so you can work out where they are...

I hope that robot with the grenade launcher has arms that dig into the ground to support it because those grenade launchers generate a lot of recoil and jumping around during firing makes it rather less useful as a support weapon.

I rather suspect they would operate at least two of these drones... one for the grenade launcher and one for a big pile of ammo because the ammo is rather bulky and heavy and awkward to carry... but a very powerful and effective weapon to make the enemy put their heads down while you advance so well worth having.

GarryB wrote:I hope that robot with the grenade launcher has arms that dig into the ground to support it because those grenade launchers generate a lot of recoil and jumping around during firing makes it rather less useful as a support weapon.

I rather suspect they would operate at least two of these drones... one for the grenade launcher and one for a big pile of ammo because the ammo is rather bulky and heavy and awkward to carry... but a very powerful and effective weapon to make the enemy put their heads down while you advance so well worth having.

It is simply transporting a manned grenade launcher.

Just saw the video and it actually looks rather good. It does not move around too much when firing and does not drop stabilisers to fire.

I was very wrong in this case it actually looks rather good: