max steel wrote: Out of 12 SCUD launched on Saudi air base that killed Saudi air force chief, Patriot managed to intercept only three
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I think need the Buk M2
max steel wrote: Out of 12 SCUD launched on Saudi air base that killed Saudi air force chief, Patriot managed to intercept only three
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flamming_python wrote:Abu Bakr al Bosni wrote:Soon Saudi tawagheet will purge Yemen of Zaydiyyah and Rafidhah and will be slaughtered themselves inshallah.flamming_python wrote:Hope the Saudis continue to receive a good ass-pumping from those Yemeni tribal militias; that they are having so much trouble with - and that no amount of oil money, bought-out GCC and bribed 'allies', overwhelming airpower, Western training and equipment, etc... can help them against.
And now in English, please?
Prince Darling wrote:flamming_python wrote:Abu Bakr al Bosni wrote:Soon Saudi tawagheet will purge Yemen of Zaydiyyah and Rafidhah and will be slaughtered themselves inshallah.flamming_python wrote:Hope the Saudis continue to receive a good ass-pumping from those Yemeni tribal militias; that they are having so much trouble with - and that no amount of oil money, bought-out GCC and bribed 'allies', overwhelming airpower, Western training and equipment, etc... can help them against.
And now in English, please?
these are "civilians" from Srebrenica, enjoy
Prince Darling wrote:flamming_python wrote:Abu Bakr al Bosni wrote:Soon Saudi tawagheet will purge Yemen of Zaydiyyah and Rafidhah and will be slaughtered themselves inshallah.flamming_python wrote:Hope the Saudis continue to receive a good ass-pumping from those Yemeni tribal militias; that they are having so much trouble with - and that no amount of oil money, bought-out GCC and bribed 'allies', overwhelming airpower, Western training and equipment, etc... can help them against.
And now in English, please?
these are "civilians" from Srebrenica, enjoy
Book. wrote:max steel wrote: Out of 12 SCUD launched on Saudi air base that killed Saudi air force chief, Patriot managed to intercept only three
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I think need the Buk M2
First learn basics of your religion like the doctrines of Tawheed and Al Wala' wal Bara' (tawheednyc.com/aqeedah/al%20walaa%20wal%20baraa/alwalawalbara2.pdf)AK_47 wrote:Prince Darling wrote:flamming_python wrote:Abu Bakr al Bosni wrote:Soon Saudi tawagheet will purge Yemen of Zaydiyyah and Rafidhah and will be slaughtered themselves inshallah.flamming_python wrote:Hope the Saudis continue to receive a good ass-pumping from those Yemeni tribal militias; that they are having so much trouble with - and that no amount of oil money, bought-out GCC and bribed 'allies', overwhelming airpower, Western training and equipment, etc... can help them against.
And now in English, please?
these are "civilians" from Srebrenica, enjoy
First of all this abu shit guy don't represent all Bosniaks(slavic bosnian muslims)! If he is Bosniak at all.. I am Bosniak, and most of us are normal people, not that religious like this abu freak(who speaks some incomprehensible words) and opposing any religious violence and don't support terrorism like it's described over media.
But on the other hand, it's true that there is small saudi/western sponsored community practice wahabism, witch did not exist before war 92-95!
Prince Darling, you dude got a real brain damage when mentioning Srebrenica about this!!
I wish Houthis had Tochkas at least -or some of the better Iranian toys (are you well versed in Iranian ballistic missiles, Garry? Tell us something)GarryB wrote:I am happy Saudi Arabia has only got western systems of air defence and it is failing against Scuds from Yemen...
They have had it coming for years...
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:I wish Houthis had Tochkas at least -or some of the better Iranian toys (are you well versed in Iranian ballistic missiles, Garry? Tell us something)GarryB wrote:I am happy Saudi Arabia has only got western systems of air defence and it is failing against Scuds from Yemen...
They have had it coming for years...
I imagine a mad scenerio - Iranians arm a 50-100k strong Houthi force to teeth. Then these Houthis fire a few hundred missiles on Saudi bases which triggers a massive Saudi invasion. Then together with the help of IRGC the invasion force is repelled with heavy casualties. Yeah.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:I wish Houthis had Tochkas at least -or some of the better Iranian toys (are you well versed in Iranian ballistic missiles, Garry? Tell us something)GarryB wrote:I am happy Saudi Arabia has only got western systems of air defence and it is failing against Scuds from Yemen...
They have had it coming for years...
I imagine a mad scenerio - Iranians arm a 50-100k strong Houthi force to teeth. Then these Houthis fire a few hundred missiles on Saudi bases which triggers a massive Saudi invasion. Then together with the help of IRGC the invasion force is repelled with heavy casualties. Yeah.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:No problem - just give Houthis some decent AD systems together with trained crews and that would leave Gulf nations with two options
1. Ground invasion
2. Halting the operation.
A well organized irregular-style AD network would be virtually unbreachable for anyone except the US and maybe Israel - Arab countries have neither training nor numbers to conduct such a complicated operation.
max steel wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:No problem - just give Houthis some decent AD systems together with trained crews and that would leave Gulf nations with two options
1. Ground invasion
2. Halting the operation.
A well organized irregular-style AD network would be virtually unbreachable for anyone except the US and maybe Israel - Arab countries have neither training nor numbers to conduct such a complicated operation.
I heard Israelis were bombing yemen with their F-16s . http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150526/1022574759.html
Cucumber Khan wrote:max steel wrote:Walther von Oldenburg wrote:No problem - just give Houthis some decent AD systems together with trained crews and that would leave Gulf nations with two options
1. Ground invasion
2. Halting the operation.
A well organized irregular-style AD network would be virtually unbreachable for anyone except the US and maybe Israel - Arab countries have neither training nor numbers to conduct such a complicated operation.
I heard Israelis were bombing yemen with their F-16s . http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150526/1022574759.html
That's just BS. Sputnik quotes those morons at Veterans Today. There is no serious evidence that the aircraft shot down was an F-16. Even so, there are plenty of Air Forces in the region that uses the F-16, in fact Saudi Air Force is one of the few that DOESN'T use the F-16.
'Hackers' Give Orders to German Missile Battery
(Source: The Local.de; published July 7, 2015)
German-owned Patriot missiles stationed in Turkey were briefly taken over by hackers, according to media reports on Tuesday.
The attack took place on anti-aircraft ‘Patriot’ missiles on the Syrian border. The American-made weapons had been stationed there by the Bundeswehr (German army) to protect Nato ally Turkey.
According to the [Behoerden Spiegel] civil service magazine, the missile system carried out “unexplained” orders. It was not immediately clear when these orders were carried out and what they were.
The magazine speculates about two weak spots in the missile system which could be exploited by hackers.
One such weakness is the Sensor-Shooter-Interoperability (SSI) which exchanges real time information between the missile launcher and its control system.
The second exposed point is a computer chip which controls the guidance of the weapon.
Attackers might have gained access in two different ways, one that takes over the operating of the missile system and one that steals data from it.
The Patriot missile has been in service in the US army since 1984 and was first used in operation in the first Gulf war in 1991.
In 2012 Turkey asked that its Nato partners support it by stationing Patriot missile systems there, after the civil war in Syria drew closer to its southern border.
In June 2015 Germany announced that it would replace its Patriot missiles with MEADS, an air defence system designed in cooperation with the USA and Italy.
Seeker UAV crashes in Yemen
Jeremy Binnie, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
06 July 2015
A still taken from the video shows the wreckage of a UAV that appears to be a Seeker 200. Source: Al-Masirah
An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was shot down near the Saudi border in Yemen's northern Sadah province, the Al-Masirah news channel reported on 5 July.
It broadcast footage showing the wreckage of a UAV that appeared to be a Denel Dynamics Seeker 200 (previously known as the Seeker II). Like the Seeker family, the crashed UAV had a twin-boom configuration and fixed undercarriage. Its wings were also the same shape as those of the Seeker 200.
The camera focused at one point on a part made by the South African subsidiary of Carl Zeiss Optronics (which was renamed Cassidian Optronics in October 2012 and is now Airbus Defence & Space Optronics).
The close-up of one of the components shows it was made by the South African branch of Carl Zeiss Optronics in 2010. (AL-Masirah)
Goshawk-II is the electro-optical system listed for the UAV on the Denel Dynamics website. A laser radiation warning sticker was seen in the video, suggesting the crashed UAV was carrying the Goshawk-II HDT system with a laser designator/range finder.
Of the nine Arab countries contributing to the Saudi-led coalition that is currently bombing Yemen, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the only one known to operate the Seeker 200.
This was revealed by US diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks, which said that in 2003 the UAE promised to deploy some of its newly acquired Seeker IIs to Afghanistan. While this deployment was cancelled in 2004 as the UAVs were needed for border patrols, an Emirati Seeker II was eventually deployed to Afghanistan in 2009.
Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, operates the comparable Selex ES Falco tactical surveillance UAV.
Book. wrote:Seeker UAV crashes in Yemen
Jeremy Binnie, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
06 July 2015
A still taken from the video shows the wreckage of a UAV that appears to be a Seeker 200. Source: Al-Masirah
An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was shot down near the Saudi border in Yemen's northern Sadah province, the Al-Masirah news channel reported on 5 July.
It broadcast footage showing the wreckage of a UAV that appeared to be a Denel Dynamics Seeker 200 (previously known as the Seeker II). Like the Seeker family, the crashed UAV had a twin-boom configuration and fixed undercarriage. Its wings were also the same shape as those of the Seeker 200.
The camera focused at one point on a part made by the South African subsidiary of Carl Zeiss Optronics (which was renamed Cassidian Optronics in October 2012 and is now Airbus Defence & Space Optronics).
The close-up of one of the components shows it was made by the South African branch of Carl Zeiss Optronics in 2010. (AL-Masirah)
Goshawk-II is the electro-optical system listed for the UAV on the Denel Dynamics website. A laser radiation warning sticker was seen in the video, suggesting the crashed UAV was carrying the Goshawk-II HDT system with a laser designator/range finder.
Of the nine Arab countries contributing to the Saudi-led coalition that is currently bombing Yemen, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the only one known to operate the Seeker 200.
This was revealed by US diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks, which said that in 2003 the UAE promised to deploy some of its newly acquired Seeker IIs to Afghanistan. While this deployment was cancelled in 2004 as the UAVs were needed for border patrols, an Emirati Seeker II was eventually deployed to Afghanistan in 2009.
Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, operates the comparable Selex ES Falco tactical surveillance UAV.
http://www.janes.com/article/52795/seeker-uav-crashes-in-yemen
Saud arab a Seeker user
UAE Armed Forces officer killed in Saudi-led coalition operation
Updated: July 17, 2015 12:27 AM
ABU DHABI // A UAE serviceman died while “performing his national duty” with Saudi-led coalition forces, state news agency Wam announced on Thursday.
Lt Abdul Aziz Sarhan Saleh Al Ka’abi was killed while participating in Operation Restoring Hope, in support of the internationally-recognised Yemen government of president Abdrabu Mansur Hadi, said the UAE General Command of the Armed Forces.
Prayers over the body of Lt Al Ka’abi were held at midnight on Thursday at Sheikh Zayed Mosque in Al Ain, followed by a burial at Hili Cemetery.
Thousands of Emiratis took to Twitter to offer condolences following the announcement, with many using the hashtag #UAE’s_Martyr_Abdulaziz_Al_Kaabi.
Among those offering their condolences on Twitter was Dr Anwar Gargash, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, who posted a prayer for the officer. Dr Gargash also said that the Emirati’s blood was his greatest sacrifice.
Lt Gen Dahi Khalfan, Deputy Chief of Police and Public Security in Dubai, also tweeted his condolences.
The announcement came amid reports that senior members of Yemen’s exiled government flew into the second city of Aden on Thursday to prepare for the return of the Hadi administration. It was the first visit by the exiled leaders since the Houthi rebels and allies entered the southern port city in March, forcing Mr Hadi and his government to flee to neighbouring Saudi Arabia.
The visit by ministers and intelligence officials follows military setbacks for the Houthis at the hands of Saudi-backed Yemeni fighters, which may mark a turning point in the conflict that has killed more than 3,000 people.
Arriving by helicopter at a military airbase on Aden’s western approaches, the group included the ministers of the interior and transport, the former interior minister, the intelligence chief, and the deputy head of the house of representatives.
“Abdrabu Mansur Hadi delegated this group to return to Aden to work to prepare the security situation and ensure stability ahead of a revival of the institutions of state in Aden,” a local official said.
Local fighters have wrested Yemen’s airport and main seaport from the northern militia group in the past two days in fighting that killed dozens of people, according to medical sources.
Fighting intensified in Aden on Thursday as Saudi-backed troops pushed to drive the Shiite rebels out of several neighbourhoods they control.
The Houthis fired Katyusha rockets that landed in the vicinity of the airport early on Thursday, killing three anti-rebel fighters, said a government official.
He said the Saudi-trained Yemeni troops had also taken control of the Crater neighbourhood, the commercial hub of Aden that houses a presidential palace. Armoured vehicles were patrolling the streets of the neighbourhood to ensure it has been cleared of rebels, he said.
A senior military official said fighting had raged in Aden’s banking district for hours, and although the rebels had fled, troops and local militias continued to search for stragglers.
The Saudi-backed troops and fighters, along with Saudi-led coalition airstrikes, had pushed the rebels out of the airport on Tuesday. It was at the outset of an offensive led by troops trained in Saudi Arabia and planned for over a month, the government official said.
Speaking to the Saudi-owned Al Arabiya Al Hadath TV, Brig Gen Ahmed Al Asiri, the Saudi-led coalition’s spokesman, praised the “heroic efforts” of Yemeni fighters.
Mr Al Asiri said the operation had been successful so far because of “the element of surprise” and added: “We need to have patience and perseverance now.”
Saudi Arabia Military Ignores Restrictions on Use of U.S.-Made Cluster Bombs Maiming Civilians in Yemen
Sunday, July 19, 2015
The U.S. government authorized the sale of millions of dollars’ worth of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) with the provision that “cluster munitions will only be used against clearly defined military targets and will not be used where civilians are known to be present or in areas normally inhabited by civilians.” Yet Human Rights Watch (HRW) found that the munitions the Saudi military has used cluster bombs in civilian areas and wounded several people in at least one incident.
A Yemeni man described to HRW an attack using the weapons. “When people saw the parachutes they fled, leaving all their produce, cars and livestock. I went to find out what the parachutes had dropped. I do not know what it is, but I thought it was important to keep away from children who might play with it.”
The weapon is the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon manufactured by Texron Systems, of Wilmington, Massachusetts. Texron claims the bomb is designed to be used only on specific targets and will either pre-destruct or be rendered inert if it doesn’t hit what it was aimed at.
Perhaps Texron needs to go back to the drawing board. Not only have civilians been injured by the CBU-105, but unexploded components of the bombs have been found on the ground. There is concern that those looking to sell the bombs as scrap will be injured by them.
The Saudi military says they’re following U.S. guidelines on how the weapons are used. Democratic Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts has introduced legislation to limit the sales of cluster bombs. Although it has never moved forward, some of its language is used in the sales agreements with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Still, civilian casualties continue.
“You know, I’m for banning these weapons, and the best we’ve been able to do is to put some rules and regulations around their export and how they’re used, and clearly that’s not enough,” McGovern said, according to Public Radio International. “Do we just throw up our hands and say it’s too bad [the Saudis] didn't comply with U.S. law, and oh boy that’s just tough? Or do we actually make sure that our laws mean something? I think if a country violates the law, and uses these weapons in the way that the Saudis did, they ought not to get any more.”
There are 116 countries that are signatories to the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans such weapons. Not coincidentally, the United States, Saudi Arabia and the UAE aren’t among them.
-Steve Straehley