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Egypt received the third German-built submarine of project 209/1400Mod




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COMNORD: Franco-Egyptian cross exercises in the English Channel

From April 15 to 17, the French Navy participated in an opportunity at sea exercise (PASSEX) with the Egyptian navy on the occasion of the transit in the Channel of the 3rd submarine S43 of class 209/1400 Egyptian and its escort unit, the Taba frigate type OH Perry.

The Egyptian group thus interacted successively with the Cormoran public service patrol vessel , then with the intervention, assistance and rescue tugs (RIAS) chartered by the French Navy Abeille Languedoc then  Abeille Liberté.

For Lt. Amin Salhi - commanding officer PSP Cormoran, "this group navigation enabled us to perfect our interoperability, in particular by carrying out tactical evolutions in coordinated training. We also tested different communication systems to exchange views and successfully achieve a "gridlock", that is to say a radar contact without visual ".

The mission of the French units was also to ensure the group's nautical safety in an area where more than 25% of world maritime traffic operates. Indeed, the English Channel is a complex maritime area due to its natural conditions (narrowness, strong currents, strong winds, high tides) and the high concentration of navigation flows (60,000 ships each year). Also, the units of the French Navy in the English Channel and the North Sea act daily to ensure the safety of navigation, from land with semaphores, at sea with public service patrol boats or even in the air with Dauphin and Caiman helicopters marine based in Le Touquet and Maupertus.

On April 17, the Egyptian group left the English Channel to join the Atlantic where it was joined by the high seas patrol vessel LV Le Hénaff , in order to continue its navigation towards Alexandria - its future home port.

The Egyptian and French navies maintain an old and sustained cooperation. Each year, more than twenty PASSEX are carried out between French and Egyptian units sailing in the Mediterranean Sea or the Red Sea, as well as many major operational training sessions such as Cléopatra , Ramses or even recently with the Jeanne group Arc in the Red Sea in March 2020.

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George1 wrote:Egypt received the third German-built submarine of project 209/1400Mod

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It reached yesterday to Alexandria .

Egypt acquired 32 AW149 and AW189 helicopters

According to the annual report of the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the Italian Senate on the export of arms and military materials from Italy in 2019, Italian company Leonardo in 2019 received licenses to implement a contract to supply the Egyptian armed forces with 32 military helicopters manufactured by its helicopter division Leonardo Helicopters (formerly AgustaWestland) - 24 AW149 helicopters and eight AW189 helicopters.

The total amount of licenses issued in 2019 for the supply of Italian military products to Egypt amounted to 871 million euros, and almost all of it falls on the Leonardo helicopter contract. This contract with Egypt became the largest export contract of the Italian defense industry in 2019 and made Egpet the largest customer of Italian military products in 2019. The total volume of export licenses issued in 2019 for Italian military products amounted to 5.174 billion euros, which, apparently, is the volume of contracting for Italian defense exports.

Recall that back in April 2019, the media reported that the Egyptian Navy signed a Leonardo contract for the purchase of 20 AW149 helicopters (with an option for another 10), but this contract was never confirmed by Leonardo. Now it became known from the Italian official report that the contract with Egypt was even larger and included eight new AW189 helicopters.

Egypt thus became the first significant customer of the AW149 helicopter. First introduced by AgustaWestland in 2006, the AW149 9-ton take-off class helicopter is positioned as a specially designed military multi-purpose machine designed to compete with the Sikorsky UH-60 series of American mass helicopters. The actual civilian counterpart to the AW149 is the AW189 helicopter. Despite extensive testing and active demonstrations of four AW149 prototypes built from 2009 to 2016 and participation in a number of international tenders, so far the only order for serial AW149 was the delivery in 2017-2018 of five Thai army aircraft under a contract worth 92.8 million dollars, as well as one car for the Thai police.

The AW189 helicopter, which is the commercial derivation of AW149, has been in serial production since 2014, but has enjoyed moderate success in the market. Egypt, apparently, became the first AW189 customer for the needs of the armed forces.

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Egypt, Italy gives the go-ahead for the sale of two of its Fremm frigates

Italy has given the go-ahead for the sale of the two Fremm frigates to Egypt in these hours. ANSA learns this from qualified sources close to the dossier. The agreement between Rome and Cairo would have arrived just yesterday following the phone call between Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte and the Egyptian leader at Sisi. The same sources report that the decision would have already been shared with the top management of Fincantieri.

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Hasm-2020 maneuver .

How do they plan to use the Mistral class ? IMO it's a useless ship for them. If they only had some ka-27 for ASW and search for subs in mediteranean at safe distance they would be worth something. But the ka-52 and Apaches are pretty useless against Israel which is the main threat.

Well, ka-52 with kh-35 is good but then not that much needed since they can use them from mig-29M from their mainland.

The helicopters are good but the ship is a big juicy target and israel has anti ship weapons that can target it from good distance even in their home port.

Isos wrote:How do they plan to use the Mistral class ? IMO it's a useless ship for them. If they only had some ka-27 for ASW and search for subs in mediteranean at safe distance they would be worth something. But the ka-52 and Apaches are pretty useless against Israel which is the main threat.

Well, ka-52 with kh-35 is good but then not that much needed since they can use them from mig-29M from their mainland.

The helicopters are good but the ship is a big juicy target and israel has anti ship weapons that can target it from good distance even in their home port.

Mistrals were funded by SA and it will not go near to a threatened area ,specially Israel .

It's role is to deploy troops in areas where irregular wars is ongoing like Syria ,Yemen ,Libya or future conflicts like those .

Also to command and control and be a communication hub between the navy platforms and airforce too .

It's always being protected by SUBs and frigates .

They could invest in ka-27 and ka-31 to make them usefull even against a well armed enemy. Letting such ship with secondary roles is stupid.

Maybe they could base an s-300 on it

Isos wrote:They could invest in ka-27 and ka-31 to make them usefull even against a well armed enemy. Letting such ship with secondary roles is stupid.

Maybe they could base an s-300 on it

Could be , anyway SA funded the deal thinking Egypt was going to send the army to Yemen or Syria but Egypt didn't .

The fourth Egyptian submarine of project 209 / 1400Mod was launched




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Egypt requests sale of $417 million Maritime Domain Awareness system


Requested equipment includes: 34 Integrated Fixed Towers with supporting equipment; 28 Communication Towers with supporting equipment; 12 Relay Towers with supporting equipment; six Naval Base Operations Rooms, two regional Operations Centres, and one Strategic Operation Centre all with supporting equipment; six Harbour Protection Systems with supporting equipment; Intelligent Fibre Intrusion Detection System; 12 Vertical Take Off and Landing unmanned aerial vehicles with six Ground Stations; 14 Mobile Maritime Surveillance Vehicles; and three Aerostat ISR Integrated Platforms with supporting equipment.

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Russia, Egypt to hold joint naval drills in Black Sea this year

The drills aim to strengthen and develop military cooperation between the Egyptian and Russian Navies

SEVASTOPOL, October 8. /TASS/. The Russian and Egyptian navies will hold joint drills in the Black Sea until the end of this year, the Black Sea Fleet’s press office reported on Thursday.

"In Novorossiysk, the delegations of the Russian Navy and the Navy of the Arab Republic of Egypt held a three-day conference on preparing and holding the joint exercise Bridge of Friendship -2020. The main goal of the meeting of the naval sailors from both countries was to work out and approve a plan of the drills that will be held in the Black Sea for the first time," the press office said in a statement.

During the drills, the warships of the Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet and the Egyptian Navy will practice measures with the support of aircraft to defend sea lanes against various threats. Under the single scenario, forces will be deployed to organize communications and resupply at sea and the participants in the maneuvers will hold an inspection of suspicious vessels.

Also, the Russian and Egyptian naval sailors will practice measures under the command of the drills’ joint headquarters to organize all types of protection and defense at sea and will carry out missile and artillery firings, employing shipborne weapons, the press office specified.

"The drills aim to strengthen and develop military cooperation between the Egyptian and Russian Navies in the interests of security and stability at sea, and to exchange experience between the personnel in thwarting various threats in the areas of intensive shipping," the press office added.

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This is the first hit by surface-surface AShM in the history .

Today in History: Israeli Destroyer Eilat Sunk By Egyptian Navy, killing 47 Israelis and wounding 91 people

On October 21, 1967, Eilat destroyer (Displacement: 1,710 tons with 110m length) intruded into Egyptian national waters as a show of force in the Mediterranean off the coasts of the Sinai Peninsula.

The Egyptian Navy fired three P-15 (SS-N-2 Styx) missiles using Soviet Project 183R class (Komar) boats at the Z-class destroyer.

ahmedfire wrote:This is the first hit by surface-surface AShM in the history .

Today in History: Israeli Destroyer Eilat Sunk By Egyptian Navy, killing 47 Israelis and wounding 91 people

On October 21, 1967, Eilat destroyer (Displacement: 1,710 tons with 110m length) intruded into Egyptian national waters as a show of force in the Mediterranean off the coasts of the Sinai Peninsula.

The Egyptian Navy fired three P-15 (SS-N-2 Styx) missiles using Soviet Project 183R class (Komar) boats at the Z-class destroyer.

Those 4 Styk missiles traveled an approximate 13.6 since that was the distance that the Eilat sank from Port Said and we know that the 2 boats didn't leave the outskirts of the PS Harbor because every time they did, they would have to return immediately as the radar station would warn them that Israeli jets were being scrambled and on their way.  So once the radar detected the Eilat, the command was sent to the two Komar Patrol/Attack boats to launch their cruise missiles and the first two hit the ship at different areas or the bow and stern, but the 3rd missile hit the Eilat amidships and 2 minutes later, they could hear the yelling that the destroyer was going down.  The 4rth missile missed and landed in the water a short distance away.

So big credit to not only the Egyptian Navy to pull this attack off and take down a destroyer which is not an easy thing to do, but also to the ingenuity of the Soviet/Russian cruise missile technology at the time.  For 3 of the 4 shots to hit the target at 14 miles away is great for that time.

This also happened only about 4-5 months shortly after the devastation of the war of 1967!  So Egypt was still reeling from that horrible defeat with shattered moral all across the country and people and this couldn't have come at a better time as shortly after that, the plan for the war of attrition went into affect and the SAM missile defense system on the canal began setting up for taking down any aircraft and especially getting ready for 1973.



Big ship the Eilat destroyer.





Those Styks look almost exactly like smaller versions of the Kelt cruise missiles that Egypt used off its TU-16 KS Bombers which they used quite a few in the October war of 1973.  They actually said that these Kelt cruise missiles were almost the size of a MiG-15! lol

Three means about 1.5 tonne of payload .

We can call it the blue whale  

A good look at one of the 50 Ka-52 Nile Crocodiles in one of the recent exercises.  Hopefully soon they'll sign the contract for the 30 Katrans and the Pantsir CIWS or the Skyguard would've been perfectly fine and then they won't need to use any of the land based attack helos and keep any salt life off of them.





Gazzelle scout seen sometime popping on and off the Mistrals in aid on the Navy.



Same with the new soon to be introduced AW-149 just arrived freshly painted.



Navy SF.



Someone said the Mistrals were useless and they need more helos like ASW etc.  They actually operate and have been operating for quite some time around 10 Kaman SH-2G Seasprite dedicated ASW helos.

Egyptian Navy crossing the Bosporus ,heading to the black sea for joint maneuvers with Russia .

So in the black sea Russia has Buyan-M, Kilo subs and Grigirovitch frigates as very new ships. I wonder if this exercise is also made for the egyptians to test those new russian toys and maybe buy some for them.

I very well see them buy some kalibr equiped Buyan-M to add punch to their navy. Less likely to see frigates like Grigorovitch because they are not cheap and they are buying italian frigates. For the subs I don't know. I think thry already bought german type 209/214. Not sure.


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Egyptian Navy Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate ALEXANDRIA F911, Ezzat class missile boat M. FAHMY 686, Gowind-class corvette EL FATEH 971 northbound Istanbul strait towards Black Sea this morning (06:40Z) for a joint exercise with the Drapeau de la RussieRussian Navy from November 17 to 24.

Isos wrote:So in the black sea Russia has Buyan-M, Kilo subs and Grigirovitch frigates as very new ships. I wonder if this exercise is also made for the egyptians to test those new russian toys and maybe buy some for them.

I very well see them buy some kalibr equiped Buyan-M to add punch to their navy. Less likely to see frigates like Grigorovitch because they are not cheap and they are buying italian frigates. For the subs I don't know. I think thry already bought german type 209/214. Not sure.

This link was talking about the Egyptian navy wanting to purchase Buyan Corvettes back in 2017.

https://www.menadefense.net/north-africa/egypt-to-order-buyan-class-corvettes-in-2017/

It never materialized.  At this point I don't see it happening because we just signed a contract for 4 Meko A200 Frigates from Germany which we just got our 4th Type 209 Submarine from a few months ago plus we just purchased the two high end Italian Berghamini FREMM frigates.  And I think they're trying to work out something with the French again possibly so hard to imagine they would go back to the Buyans.  But you never know.

Here are the two Berghamini FREMM frigates with their incredible AESA radars.  First one should be arriving soon as in a few months and the other shortly thereafter.



This is the one that will be delivered very soon.



What we need to see happen with Russia ASAP is the contract on the Katrans to equip our Mistrals.

Some more pics of the Ambassador missile boat and the Gowind Corvette crossing the Turkish Strait.

PLUS..........lol, just last week Germany announced that 10+ boats that were destined for Saudi Arabia will not be delivered to them because Merkel has some bug up her behind about the murder of Khashogshi and cancelled this huge contract with them and guess who came in and swooped from under to pick up all 10+ ships and boats?  YEP, you guessed it, the EGYPIAN NAVY LOL!

The German Government agreed to the German company Lurssen to hand over 9 patrol boats and one coastal defense boat to Egypt instead of Saudi Arabia..

3rd November 2020. :Christian Schwalb

Lürssen Group is allowed to deliver warships to Egypt
Nine patrol boats and one coastal defense boat can be exported
Originally the boats were destined for Saudi Arabia
Arms export stop prevented extradition

The Federal Government approved the Bremen Lürssen Group to deliver nine patrol boats and one coastal defense boat to Egypt. According to reports, these are boats that were originally intended for Saudi Arabia - until the German government then imposed an arms export ban two years ago. The Lürssen Group confirms that it has concluded a corresponding contract with the Egyptian Navy.

The Federal Security Council, which includes the Chancellor, had previously approved the deal. According to the Federal Minister of Economics Peter Altmaier (CDU), the value of the boats is around 130 million euros. All of them come from the production facility at the Peene shipyard in Wolgast.

The Lürssen daughter has been sitting on a number of coast guard boats ready for delivery for two years, which were not allowed to be delivered to Saudi Arabia because of the affair surrounding the killed government critic Khashoggi. The Peene shipyard has been part of the Lürssen Group since 2012. It specializes in the construction and conversion of naval and special ships.

Criticism of the extradition permit
The opposition in the Bundestag has sharply criticized the export permit because Egypt - like Saudi Arabia - is pilloried for human rights violations. The federal government had formally justified its ban on exports to Saudi Arabia by stating that the armaments could end up in the Yemen war. In fact, Egypt is also an active part of the war in Yemen.







By the time all these ships are delivered and it's all said and done, the Egyptian navy will be almost as strong as the Turkish Navy minus the submarines. The have quite a few more than the 8 we have.

Buyan gives them the ability to use land attack cruise missiles.

Something that no other ship in their navy can do.

FREMM provides good air cover and anti sub capabilities but for anti shiping abd land attack role they are quite obsolete. Italian FREMM are even less capabke than the french designed one

Land attack is still limited to 300km anyway so it wouldn't be the Kalibr missile by any means and rather only the Yankhont or the Klub and even those, while conforming to the MTCR rules will still be something I wouldn't be so sure that Russia would supply, given they also care about Israel quite a bit and would never give us weapons that could actually ATTACK Israel but rather ones that would defend ourselves from Israel.

That's been the story of being Egypt in this area is that we're viewed as the greatest threat to that little shithole when we couldn't really give two rats asses about it, honestly.  

Also, I greatly disagree with your assertion that the French FREMM is better than the Italian Bergaminis.  The first thing right off the bat is the French FREMM only fires the Aster 15 VLS where as the Bergamini fires the Aster 30 and has a very highly developed AESA radar which also comes with their own satellite for GPS comms.

The induction of the heaviest and most powerful frigate in the Middle East, FREMM Bergamini; These stealth Italian Carlo Bergamini class warships are clearly destroyers, but being called frigates for political reasons. These vessels are larger than the French Aquitaine class ships.
It covers down on the rest of the fleet, it gives a forward presence, independent ops, escort capability ... and value added to the larger Helicopter carriers Mistral..
With the surface-to-air extended self defense system (SAAM ESD, Surface to Air Anti Missile System Extended Self Defense) firing Aster 30 missile, the firing ship is able to both protect itself (self-defense) and other consort ships..

Also Egypt's maritime defense concept is more relegated to defense also and not really land attack.  Most of the frigates and corvettes are ASW as well as Multi Purpose and are mainly tasked to defend maritime zones, coastal territory defense as well as gas field assets.  Something to keep in mind.

Also, all these frigates in the FREMMs and the Gowinds have an entire section forward or rear of the VLS chamber that is vacant for future add-ons of "certain" particular weapons system should the Egyptian Navy chose to use it.  This was actually discussed in another forum in great detail.

These are the Russian Navy vessels that will be participating in the Joint Naval Exercise "Bridge of Freindship-20" with the EN in the Black Sea.

• Admiral Makarov Frigate
• Orekhovo-zuevo Buyan-class Missile Corvette
• Dmitry Rogachev Patrol Boat
• Professor Nikolai Muru Rescue Tugboat

300km kalibr is enough to cover a big part of israel from egyptian port.

Russia will sell any weapon you can buy. Egyptian mig-29 have kh-31 with 200km range for attacking radars or ships.

France sold you Scalp missile.

French FREMM for air defence has 16 aster 15 and 16 aster 30 / MdCN. The one with only 16 aster 15 is ASW model.