Libyan Crisis

Isos wrote:I don't think so. LNA controls oil which is mainly traded with EU and mostly France. GNA controls nothing and they pay with leftovers of Gaddafi era.

Money can be kept in french banks. On the other side Egypt and UAE provide money and give their own weapons for free.

GNA has no real territory. If Haftar loose some Egypt will attack directly. They will never let Turks win there because they would have turkish back terrorist on the east and west sides spreading terrorism inside Egypt (it already started with ISIS). Then it could lead to the same destruction of Egypt as Syria.

UAE and Saudi Arabia on the other side don't want Turkey to be the leader of Sunni world whuch is what Erdogan is fighting for. EU is no more happy to see that happen too because that would restart the flow of migrants from Africa as Erdogan loves to use them as a weapon.

Libyan war is not a civil war at all. It's a total proxy war for foreign interest. And frankly speaking if Egypt, UAE and Russian really start using everything they can to help Haftar, turks won't sustain more than few hours there. That's far from their homeland and they don't have the power projection capabilty to fight Egypt in Lybia neither do they have deterrance that would stop Egypt attacking them there. Furthermore without datailing, Turks would be fuck by Egypt pretty easily in a long war: no more Suez canal for them, Egypt is on the way of any Turkish civilian ship and could sink them everytime they want to trade with other countries, rest of the world don't support Turks....

Again Turks don't have the capacity to be a superpower. I don't understand why Erdogan keeps using its military when he can be beaten pretty easily everywhere and become a paria at home.

JohninMK wrote:

GarryB wrote:How hard would it be to go to the local tent maker and get a tarp made to cover it?

Either they didn't care or the convoy was protected by some kind of a deal and/or they didn't have time?

JohninMK wrote:

Rob Lee
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Screenshots of that Pantsir-S1 on a KAMAZ-6560 chassis. Since that variant of the Pantsir isn’t in service with UAE (AFAIK), seems most likely that Russian PMCs are operating their own Pantsirs. A photo emerged this week of another KAMAZ-6560 Pantsir-S1 that was destroyed. 86/

magnumcromagnon wrote:So 2 Qatari C-17's (one with Kenyan call sign flying from Istanbul ) and 1 Turkish C-130 are on their way to deliver weapons, ammo and terrorists to Libya:

I think it's time for Algeria to play it's hand, and for Russia to secretly play theirs. Apparently 4 regiments (with 12 launchers per regiment) totaling in 48 launchers of Iskander have been delivered to Algeria. Qatari C-17's would be nice big juicy targets for Iskander-M, and with Russia coordinating it, they can get their revenge against Qatar for their role in bombing a Russian airliner in Egypt back in 2016. Iskander-M's use could really deter Turkish use of it's frigates and it's tactical airlift.

JohninMK wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:So the LNA is retreating from positions in Ain Zara area, south of Tripoli, but they made sure to leave behind some 'presents'

Left the paperwork too, in Russian. But no Wagner anywhere to be seen

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Looks like GNA captured a wagner mine/IED workshop or training center. Looking for the HD video but you have MON-200, documents in Russian, looks like some training papers, tons of trip wire and everything associated with IEDs/mines. Looks like they may have gotten a journal too

Hole wrote:Most of Africa uses russian weapons = russian manuals.

If the guys found a DVD player with japanese language manuals does that mean that there were japanese mercenaries?

Hole wrote:Most of Africa uses russian weapons = russian manuals.

If the guys found a DVD player with japanese language manuals does that mean that there were japanese mercenaries?

JohninMK wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Get over yourself. Wagner isn't even a Russian word so stop it already. For someone to claim they designed a modem, you really are stupid. Documents in Russian means Wagner exists? Russian is one of the most spoken languages in the world. What if they are Ukrainian Mercs? They existed as long as Russian? Jesus tap dancing Christ.

As well, KAMAZ used pantsir also doesn't mean they are Russian "PMC". If you guys weren't so fucking stupid, you could easily look up Russian Constitution which dictates PMC's are illegal in Russian law. Meaning Russian government can't sell anything to a Russian PMC cause it isn't Russian as it is illegal.

Please desist from insulting other members here. It is not allowed as per Garry's instructions.

a thread on Wagner in Libya

Garry can protect you morons all he likes. He will just simply keep a forum open for trolls and dolts who have zero critical thinking skills. I am fine with that. We lost already KVS and he was far more of a proper contributor than 90% of you guys.

ahmedfire wrote:Guys , even if we assumed the Russians have some work in Libya, so what ?

Isn't that normal for Russia to play against Turkish interests ?

Libyan Army captures ‘one of the most dangerous’ Syrian ISIS operatives: video

BEIRUT, LEBANON (9:00 P.M.) – The Libyan National Army (LNA) announced the arrest of a Syrian national, Mohammad al-Ruwaidani, who was said to be “one of the most dangerous ISIS operatives from Syria.”

According to the LNA’s spokesperson, Ahmad Al-Mismari, the Libyan Army captured Al-Ruwaidani while they were clashing with the Turkish-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) forces at the Tripoli front.

Al-Mismari said that Al-Ruwaidani was fighting in Libya “under the auspices of the Turkish intelligence as Emir of the Legion of the Levant,” noting that he was fighting in the ranks of the Government of National Accord, which they said is “led by Turkish officers.”

A video showing the ISIS operative was released by the Libyan National Army’s media channel; it shows the moment that their forces apprehended him.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=external&v=251093065951858

It is not clear when Al-Ruwaidani went to Libya, but given the recent arrival of a large number of Turkish-backed militants, it is likely that he joined a Free Syrian Army (FSA) faction before going to the North African nation.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/libyan-army-captures-one-of-the-most-dangerous-syrian-isis-operatives-video/

George1 wrote:

Libyan Army captures ‘one of the most dangerous’ Syrian ISIS operatives: video

BEIRUT, LEBANON (9:00 P.M.) – The Libyan National Army (LNA) announced the arrest of a Syrian national, Mohammad al-Ruwaidani, who was said to be “one of the most dangerous ISIS operatives from Syria.”

According to the LNA’s spokesperson, Ahmad Al-Mismari, the Libyan Army captured Al-Ruwaidani while they were clashing with the Turkish-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) forces at the Tripoli front.

Al-Mismari said that Al-Ruwaidani was fighting in Libya “under the auspices of the Turkish intelligence as Emir of the Legion of the Levant,” noting that he was fighting in the ranks of the Government of National Accord, which they said is “led by Turkish officers.”

A video showing the ISIS operative was released by the Libyan National Army’s media channel; it shows the moment that their forces apprehended him.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=external&v=251093065951858

It is not clear when Al-Ruwaidani went to Libya, but given the recent arrival of a large number of Turkish-backed militants, it is likely that he joined a Free Syrian Army (FSA) faction before going to the North African nation.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/libyan-army-captures-one-of-the-most-dangerous-syrian-isis-operatives-video/

He is ..a very..ugly.. motherfucker

"If Russia takes possession of the base on the Libyan coast, then the next logical step will be the deployment of permanent access restriction zones (A2AD)," said US Air Force Commander in Europe and Africa, US Air Force General Jeff Harridgeyan, "If this day comes, it will create real security concerns on the southern flank of Europe. "