Video Games Thread

HORNS AND HOOVES STUDIO continue to develop horror in the atmosphere of Soviet Sci-fi.

Uno de los videojuegos más bellos y filosóficos de todos los tiempos.

Final Fantasy 7





Another great video game is Death Stranding

PapaDragon wrote:
You guys pay for videogames?

Obviously you have to pay for video games or do you think the world lives in yugoslavian socialism?

Gamergate2, Communist trying again to take over gaming.

This sounds like shit you would read from the Onion.
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20371389?ysclid=luaeuezqu1814118451

MOSCOW, March 27. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the government to consider the issue of organizing the production of game consoles and consoles in Russia. This was reported on the website of the Kremlin.

"To consider the issue of organizing the production of stationary and portable game consoles and game consoles, as well as the creation of an operating system and a cloud system for delivering games and programs to users," the list of instructions following Putin's meeting on the socio-economic development of the Kaliningrad region in January says.

The deadline for the execution of the instruction is set until June 15, 2024.

In February, it was reported that the Organization for the Development of the Video Game Industry (RVI) will present to the government a plan for the development of video games in Russia for a five-year period. The roadmap was drawn up, among other things, taking into account proposals from executive authorities, state organizations and the professional gaming community. The plan consists of 83 points, including educational, export, and technological.

That sounds like great news as long as they do a decent job...

For a while the British had "advanced home computers" with the Sinclair Spectrum ZX-81. The Japanese had an enormous range of consoles and computer games.

i do not know how valid this really is.

I wish listed some games on Steam that are of Russian developers and have rather large western followings.
This war seems to have no impact how the developers operate or steam handles them and the customer base. Gamers just want good original games.

Iron Meat, Dust Front, Broken Arrow,...
or in extension sea power: modern combat has developers from the former soviet nations that adhere to the true soviet weapon legacy that is highly respected by millitary simmers.

Some tried making it political in the gaming world and paid a heavy price.

Like workers and resources: soviet republic picking the Ukrainian side and they paid dearly for it.
Gamers never want to see politics or social issues or they will eat you alive for it.

Of course i always welcome diversifying the options.
But me as a Gamer, i do not see an existing problem at this point.

the hardware field is rather difficult at the moment.

You got three main players, Nvidia, AMD and Intel.
These are industry giants, sure. they got a bit lazy just harking in the money.
but to match their R&D branches is another matter.

I do not say it can not be done.
But either they would need to catch up or go into another direction entirely.
there is a bottleneck approaching too regarding thermal dispersion in the chips of both CPU and GPU's .

We already need water-cooling to keep thermals within check for peak performance. Or really, really beefy air cooling solutions.

i just do not see how you would give the industry three months to come up with a plan and expect something to come out of this that gives a reasonable good result.

Anyway,...i just saw this post stating this. i never saw it elsewhere yet .
but i could not resist replying loving games and computers.

Space Marine 2 is being developed in St. Petersburg

Well I just see it as Russia wanting to create its own options and systems for gaming... why would they rely on western platforms... a hostile culture that wants to kill them and steal all their land and resources...

I would say the same drive should be made for boosting the Russian movie industry too...

Here in New Zealand Peter Jackson used Weta Workshop and put them on the map though they had been chipping away making movies and things before that... I rather suspect Putin wants to have something like that for computer game console hardware and games that run on them...

They could probably start with a console that allows you to play old games from old consoles and computers and video arcade machines and then work on upping the hardware and software to run current games... perhaps VR glasses or a helmet with VR and sound system and a control glove with the console built into the helmet to make it mobile.

Apple can fabricate at the latest generation process at any fab they want. Russia can't do that. If you made the chips in Russia you would be talking Playstation 3 level.

I think the whole 3 months thing isn't exactly a demand but a suggestion. If I'm a betting man, the industry was probably already pushing the government to come up with an incentive program for this very thing meaning there were companies who already had plans or has something they can cook up.

I suspect the 3 month deadline is to get all the various groups talking and working together on ideas and potential solutions rather than 3 months to start serial production.

They have a lot of talent and it really comes down to getting it to work together to see what can be achieved.

Apple can fabricate at the latest generation process at any fab they want. Russia can't do that. If you made the chips in Russia you would be talking Playstation 3 level.

Well like I said they could start with a system that emulates older gaming machines as a sort of base model and start to evolve from there.

It makes sense to look at the production capacity and potential of Russian companies and look at what will boost production of useful hardware that will be useful in other areas of computing. Creating a separate branch of electronics that is only useful for these consoles and nothing else does not really make a lot of sense, but clever use of chips and resources could lead to new ideas in computing.

I remember the first computer I bought... an Amiga 500 in the late 1980s, it was way better than traditional IBM clone PCs because it had dedicated custom chips for various roles including graphics and sound chips, whereas the early 286 and 386 and even 486 PCs barely had embraced the idea of graphics and sound cards.

The old sound blaster cards were not amazing and the graphics cards were pre 3D cards... I think the first decent graphics cards I had were two Voodoo 2 graphics cards linked together which meant I could play games like Deus Ex and Il-2.

Perhaps Russian developers could get together with Chinese companies and make something that can compete with Xbox and Playstation... perhaps something innovative like the Wii that emphasises movement rather than sitting on your arse passively watching a screen.

Like I said, use new technology like control gloves and VR goggles and surround sound systems... perhaps in a helmet based set up with a backpack for more hardware to make it fully mobile.

This would mean gyros and other technology would be needed, but they are working on similar systems for their armoured vehicles and aircraft, which could benefit both parties in terms of finding solutions to problems and also increasing the production base so significant numbers can be produced if demand is there.

Adding Chinese developers and potentially Chinese production for the Chinese market would expand the potential customer base and looking at India as a market and production centre would be a good way to spend some of the excess rupees they have by making components in India.

Obviously it needs to be a Russian system that can be fully made in Russia by Russians, but expanding the market outside Russia is another factor for the future and there will be a few Chinese and Indian gamers who don't want to play a western oriented game where the US are the good guys and everyone else is the bad guys...

lyle6 wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:
Obviously you have to pay for video games or do you think the world lives in yugoslavian socialism?

CD Project Red made 2 of my most favorite games but the Russophile in me will never part a cent for a Polish company.

No I never paid for the Metro and Stalker series either. In retrospect that was a very good decision. Saved me some beer money that didn't go to some liberasts or worse, hohols.

Atomic Heart was a great game.
The new Stalker for Xbox is a scam from Ukrainians. That game should have been finished before the war and they used it as an excuse for its delay.

Moving a nostalgic chat about a very old game from the micro electronics thread:

I posted:

I remember a computer game I used to play in the 1990s called Frontier elite II, by a guy named Brabham or something... it was a 3D space simulator but with very simple graphics, but the physics were excellent... though it did cheat in some areas. Basically you started off on Planet Earth in a small basic ship and you traded and did jobs to earn money to upgrade your ship to improve your capacity to earn money... once you had enough money you could upgrade your ship to a bigger ship, which needed bigger engines and could carry more weapons and might have a larger crew etc etc

It mapped out the Milky Way... all the star systems you could fly to, each with planetary systems and in the case of the solar system there were multiple space ports on earth and satellites in earth orbit as well as on the moon and on other planets in the solar system and moons and also space stations all over the place you can land or dock and sell products and buy products. You can fly through all sorts of star systems and randomly come across pirates... once in a star system you have hydrogen fuel which you used to move around each star system (the flight between star systems was flown in hyperdrive) but some star systems were enormous and there was an accelerate time feature so you can traverse the enormous distances in reasonable time... you could fly towards a planet and as you approached things like planets and space stations eventually their gravity took over and you could fly down through the atmosphere and land. You could mine resources on moons and planets and space rocks etc etc.

What I am trying to say is that this game came on a single 880K Amiga 500 floppy disk and ran on a computer that came originally with 512K memory. I had the 512K RAM expansion card which made it a 1 MB computer... amazing... I know... it had a clock speed of about 7.6 Mhz, but the graphics in the game were convincing enough... you could see outside the space ship in a third person view if you wanted.... lots of hours wasted on that game.

Firebird replied:

I think I remember that game as a little kid.
I would always buy arms, and drugs and hoes to trade.
So I would always get chased out of that sector of the galaxy.

I cheated... when you start out with the tiny ship you fly out of patrolled space near the planets and you dump a ton of hydrogen fuel. Fuel is dumped but it stays in your inventory but you free up one ton space on your ship. If you keep dumping it eventually you will sustain damage but the physics are as real as possible so if you have a 15 ton tiny space ship with 5 tons of engines, that limits the size and power of the engines you carry and how much space you have for cargo and other equipment and gear. When you have dumped 50 tons of stuff you probably have sustained some damage, but you can fly to a nearby space port and dock and repair the damage and buy an auto repair system and a couple of shield generators, so when you go out and do it again you don't get any damage and you can free up thousands of tons of space, so you can put all sorts of stuff onboard including thousands of shield generators making you almost impossible to destroy with conventional energy weapons or missiles. The size of the engine you put in your tiny 15 ton space craft could be something a huge thousand ton space craft requires, so your jump distance in hyperdrive becomes enormous... you can jump around in single hops instead of flying from system to system. Then you can be safe from almost anything and go mining or exploring. You can even get a scoop and fly low over gas giants to capture hydrogen fuel. No more fear when the warning alerts you to the presence of pirates...'

Ironically the game would be just fine on even the cheapest smart phone, the gameplay was more important than the simple graphics and exploring and interactions was what kept me playing. The Physics of flight in space was excellent and pretty accurately implemented... the time shift function allowing traversing enormous distances reasonably quickly.

https://generalsrotr.fandom.com/wiki/Trident

"frustrating Russian ambitions in the Black Sea and south-eastern Europe."

When you lost in real battles you attempt to win in fictional game.

higurashihougi wrote:https://generalsrotr.fandom.com/wiki/Trident

"frustrating Russian ambitions in the Black Sea and south-eastern Europe."

When you lost in real battles you attempt to win in fictional game.

These morons do not seem to realise that Morozov was born in Russia and buried in Russia.

I would also like to know how someone could be such a fool as to conceive of a manner in which Russia could somehow invade a continent it is already located on.

Triple A game companies only have shit on the menu.   DEI, poor design and general contempt for gamers.   That is why people are playing old games.

The-thing-next-door wrote:These morons do not seem to realise that Morozov was born in Russia and buried in Russia.

I would also like to know how someone could be such a fool as to conceive of a manner in which Russia could somehow invade a continent it is already located on.

I abandon all hope about SWR Production having any sensible understanding of history and politics when I discovered they wrote "EU media strive for transparency and neutrality" in the lore.

They also have a very hostile and impolite response to the community when people point out that their lore is inconsistent to the truth, either physical or historical.

To be fair, the game-play and faction balance is nice, but I guess there is it a rule for game-making teams in the West to demonize Russia to sell their products.

higurashihougi wrote:

I abandon all hope about SWR Production having any sensible understanding of history and politics when I discovered they wrote "EU media strive for transparency and neutrality" in the lore.

They also have a very hostile and impolite response to the community when people point out that their lore is inconsistent to the truth, either physical or historical.

To be fair, the game-play and faction balance is nice, but I guess there is it a rule for game-making teams in the West to demonize Russia to sell their products.

Thier balance is extremely unrealistic, eca having the best artillery, us advanced tech working, ect.

If I made such a mod the eca equivalent would be a horde army, the us a vehicle spam army and the Russians would have fewer of the most powerful units in most categories with a focus on heavy fire support vehicles and air defence.

I would also definately add a mechanic where the more advanced us stuff breaks randomly.

The problem with typical RTS balance is that nations are usually randomly over specialised in an extremely unrealistic manner, well I guess Japan is in real life, or it is the product of a echo chamber of retarded exceptionalists, see any red alert game.