The Situation in the Ukraine. #10

Looks like Russia christian population problems are a thing of the past ..  



Russia was invaded by one MILLION Ukrainian men of military age, hiding from Poroshenko - official data

More than one million male citizens of Ukraine, which is currently in the process of the fourth wave of mobilization, are already on the territory of the Russian Federation, which was declared by the resolution of Verkhovnaya Rada as the "aggressor".

The relevant data was reported at a press conference in Kiev by the founder of the Ukrainian sociological company Research & Branding Group, Yevgeny Kopatko.

"According to the Federal Migration Service there are 2 million 430 thousand citizens of Ukraine now in Russia, including 1 million 172 thousand men of military age".

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/01/russia-was-invaded-by-one-million.html

in the next decade many of those Ukies moving to Russia will find a pretty Russian girl and will start a family
with her..  This is a huge opportunity for Russia to increase the Russian population on Russia..  At the same
time LUkashenko is trying to distance from the RUssian influence on this population..  by trying to paint their country
as something different than RUssian country ,when in reality Ukrainians and Belarussian are the same Russian people with another label..  It will be like american citizens in Virginia.. calling themselves... not americans but Virginians citizens.. and invent a dialect of ENGLISH to distance from USA.   The only thing that divide Belarussia/Uktraine from being Russian states as it was in Russian Empire is simply Politics and western interference
in trying to contain,isolate and divide  Russia.

And this is exactly the main reason US And its Globalist allies carefully design their foreign policy to contain Russia..
and sabotage its economy.. so it cannot influence former soviet republics..
Ways to do that is by generous business with former Russian republics while at the same time attacking RUssian economy.. This is why Russia cannot survive by just being another China or another India.. ie.. a Self Centered Nation ,with not much interest to expand.  The only way Russia can survive is Expanding or capitulating to the west..
There is no middle terms. Either Russia becomes an alternative to USA.. or they become a colony.. they no longer can continue existing as a local power.   So Russia needs to influence Belarusians and Ukrainians into their Orbit..  
And the best way to influence others is by being a very prosperous ,fully developed and modern nation and becoming a real alternative to USA ,becoming a world leader and becoming the best in technology and entertainment and developed infrastructure.

So Russia will not survive by being a passive nation or a regional power ,like other BRICS nations.. because the west will continue trying to break Russia in parts by luring their allies and their own Russians citizens into their orbit. What we know as 5th column in Russia is the result of the failure of Russia Government to compete with Europe or USA in quality of life. Russia will need to expand its influence in the Russian world to survive and former soviet republics to survive... otherwise more Euromaidans will happen..at their borders.

@Vann: I understand that you feel Russia is threatened, but with that suggestion many peoplr will label you as an imperialist, for sure.

For me I see no problem with a Union between Russia, Ukraina and Belarus, base on equality and mutual respect, of course. After all, these nations belong to the same family, they are all the very close siblings of the mother Kyivian Rus.

Trying to seperate Ukraina, Belarus from Russia is the ultimate form of stupidiy, considering the very close ties of them in culuture, history, language, religion and economy.

And Russia is not any "other" BRICS nation. Russia is the leader of BRICS, and the stronghold of science-technology for China, India and other allies to hold on and rise up.

It is the number of women of child bearing age, not men, that matters. You have to find a way to have a million pretty Ukrainian girls move to Russia and to start pumping out kids. Plus, those million men will in all likelihood move back to Ukraine if the situation there improves. Russia has done very little over the past 20 years to entice young people to immigrate to Russia. They should have been offering housing, job assistance, financial aid ect. Even the latest proposal to resettle people in the Far East by giving them 1 hectare of land is a joke. They are supposed to make a rural living on 1 hectare ? How about 100 hectares. It is not like there is any shortage of land in Russia.

Modern Ukraine is a Soviet created fiction with NATO backing. Everything from Odessa to Kharkov in the south and east is
a proper part of Russia. In fact, Kiev is a proper part of Russia. Halychnyna in the west is the actual Ukraine and should
be independent. The people of historical Novorussia should have the freedom to choose whether they want to submit to
the Halychnya freaks who hate them with a passion, stay independent as a new country or join Russia.

The only imperialism here is being conducted by NATO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=YpbOxVdIP4M

Ukrainian army now also use NATO artillery like cal. 155 mm howitzers and 75 mm MLRSs. I hope Novorussian army will soon capture some of those M109 howitzers.

medo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=YpbOxVdIP4M

Ukrainian army now also use NATO artillery like cal. 155 mm howitzers and 75 mm MLRSs. I hope Novorussian army will soon capture some of those M109 howitzers.

The regime is deliberately targeting the Gorlovka Cathedral since there are hundreds of refugees hiding there.

Make no mistake, the Kiev regime is racist and genocidal. That they are not running death camps only proves
that NATO is keeping them on a tight leash.

NOVORUSSIA or UKR?


What a barrage!


DPR infantry:

Lothar von Trotha wrote:NOVORUSSIA or UKR?

What a barrage!

It is Donetsk Republic forces according to the title.

kvs wrote:

medo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=YpbOxVdIP4M

Ukrainian army now also use NATO artillery like cal. 155 mm howitzers and 75 mm MLRSs. I hope Novorussian army will soon capture some of those M109 howitzers.

The regime is deliberately targeting the Gorlovka Cathedral since there are hundreds of refugees hiding there.

Make no mistake, the Kiev regime is racist and genocidal.   That they are not running death camps only proves
that NATO is keeping them on a tight leash.

Kiev regime is racist and genocidal, that we all know for sure but I think if things go bad for NATO, then will allow the fascists in Kiev to do anything(be it death camps or anything else).

medo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=YpbOxVdIP4M

Ukrainian army now also use NATO artillery like cal. 155 mm howitzers and 75 mm MLRSs. I hope Novorussian army will soon capture some of those M109 howitzers.

And what NATO systems uze 75mm? Why would NATO send M109 if Ukraine has tons of it's own arty. Ukr usage of arty needs thousands of shells. Plus they offer no advantage over 152mm.

I find this South Korean Hanwha cal. 70 mm multiple rocket launcher, which could be described in video. Also there is an option of US cal. 70 mm Hydra rocket launcher, which could be also placed on vehicles. Maybe it is a mistake from a journalist to claim cal.75 mm.

Regular wrote:

medo wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=YpbOxVdIP4M

Ukrainian army now also use NATO artillery like cal. 155 mm howitzers and 75 mm MLRSs. I hope Novorussian army will soon capture some of those M109 howitzers.

And what NATO systems uze 75mm? Why would NATO send M109 if Ukraine has tons of it's own arty. Ukr usage of arty needs thousands of shells. Plus they offer no advantage over 152mm.

Ukraine is running out of ammunition and NATO could not supply to Ukraine 152 mm shells, but they could their 155 mm shells.

These fascists are just taking Ukrainian peoples land.

http://rt.com/news/228387-ukraine-hacktivists-leak-yarosh/

Report Report, the truth came out...



Ukropy fascist battalion have destroyed an Aramata tank with RPG's in Debaltzevo and captured the tank crew and they have destroyed russian column of 17 vehicles...

The last sentece is. "Couldn't take a picture, phone was recharging." "Bacon to Ukraine!"

Werewolf wrote:Report Report, the truth came out...



Ukropy fascist battalion have destroyed an Aramata tank with RPG's in Debaltzevo and captured the tank crew and they have destroyed russian column of 17 vehicles...

The last sentece is. "Couldn't take a picture, phone was recharging." "Bacon to Ukraine!"

Sums up how the regime and its supporters are all living in rabid fantasy land.

This makes them extremely dangerous, especially to civilians.

Werewolf wrote:Report Report, the truth came out...



Ukropy fascist battalion have destroyed an Aramata tank with RPG's in Debaltzevo and captured the tank crew and they have destroyed russian column of 17 vehicles...

The last sentece is. "Couldn't take a picture, phone was recharging." "Bacon to Ukraine!"

I am sorry but what is going on?

The situation in Debaltsevo and the surrounding pocket is looking very grim for the regime. And that is really, really great!

DPR militias nip attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions towards Debaltsevo

In the past 16 days, according to Basurin, Ukraine’s army lost 136 tanks, 110 combat infantry vehicles and armoured vehicles, 80 artillery units and mortars, and 58 cars

MOSCOW, February 1. /TASS/. Self-defence forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) on Sunday nipped an attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions for the Ukrainian troops trapped in Debaltsevo but let vehicles with would leave the area, a spokesman for the DPR defence ministry said.

"Early in the morning on February 1, the self-defence forces nipped attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions, fuels and foods for the Ukrainian troops trapped in Debaltsevo," said Eduard Basurin.
"Three convoys with medical and cargo vehicles with wounded Ukrainian soldiers were allowed to leave Debaltsevo," he stressed. "Our units blocking the Debaltsevo-Artemovsk highway were not shelled. Although, according to reconnaissance data, one of these convoys evacuated commanders of the Ukrainian army’s Debaltsevo unit."
"Over the past night and in the first half of the day on Sunday, the Ukrainian troops were regrouping forces to prepare a breakthrough from the Debaltsevo ring," Basurin said. "Armoured vehicles and personnel are beings witched from Debaltsevo to Popasny. According to reconnaissance data, the Ukrainian command plans another breakthrough attempt here."
He said that the DPR forces were reinforcing the ring arounf Debaltsevo.

Ukrainian artillery’s ragged shelling kills Ukrainian troops

Ukrainian troops often come under ragged friendly fire, Eduard Basurin said.

"On Sunday morning in Uglegorsk, three Ukrainian serviocemen blocked in a private house in the town;s eastern suburb agreed to surrender arms yield themselves to the DPR forces. But a Ukrainian Grad missile hit the house killing them all. Our servicemen were wounded," he said.
"This was not a sporadic case. A big number of Ukrainian troops are being killed as the Ukrainian artillery shells settlements Ukrainian servicemen are leaving," he said.
In the past 16 days Ukraine’s army lost 136 tanks
Ukraine’s army lost 57 troops, five tanks, seven armoured infantry carriers and 12 artillery systems in the past 24 hours, a spokesman for the defence ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic said.

"Over the past 24 hours of combat operations, the Ukrainian army lost 57 troops, five tanks, seven combat infantry vehicles and 12 artillery units and mortars," he said. "Two field depots with munitions for Grad multiple launch rocket systems and conventional artillery were seized."
In the past 16 days, according to Basurin, Ukraine’s army lost 136 tanks, 110 combat infantry vehicles and armoured vehicles, 80 artillery units and mortars, and 58 cars. "Personnel losses stood at 1,569 people," he said.
He also said that DPR security agencies were exposing and neutralizing small groups of Ukrainian soldiers in the settlements of Chernukhino and Uglegorks taken under DPR control on Saturday. "Nine Ukrainian servicemen were detained. Four of them have serious wounds. These people have been left here by their commanders while retreating to Debaltsevo," Basurin said, adding that the wounded had been offered medical assistance.

Well it's about time.... The ***hats in the US media are talking about Ukraine getting American "help". Oh the obvious HYPOCRISY!

Mike E wrote:Well it's about time.... The ***hats in the US media are talking about Ukraine getting American "help". Oh the obvious HYPOCRISY!

Not only in US media, but in UK media, too.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/01/putin-stopped-ukraine-military-support-russian-propaganda

Werewolf wrote:Report Report, the truth came out...

*picture*

Ukropy fascist battalion have destroyed an Aramata tank with RPG's in Debaltzevo and captured the tank crew and they have destroyed russian column of 17 vehicles...

The last sentece is. "Couldn't take a picture, phone was recharging." "Bacon to Ukraine!"

1st theorem of propagamedia evolution: the propaganda environment has very extreme selection mechanism in order to choose the most lowscum and garbage elements in the darkest, most illeterate region in the world. These elements have no ways to survive in a healthy society, the only thing they can do is expressing ultimate loyalty to the oligarchs who control propagamedia agencies.

Breaking news: Obama admitted that the US backed the facist Maidan to topple Yaku

http://rt.com/op-edge/228379-obama-power-transition-ukraine/

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150201/1017625288.html

That Obama quote was interpreted wrong... So don't get excited over it.

Watch the interview and find out.