The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

Ukrainian parliment just approved the slashing of Ukrainian pensions...with this move they sealed their fate:

Verkhovna ​Rada revises $20 billion budget, cuts pensions in hopes of $25 billion in loans

Kimppis wrote:Russia May Support Independent Donbas if Paths to Peace are Exhausted

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150306/1019165821.html

Yes, yes and yes! Should have been done from the very beginning of this mess.

Anyway, stumbled upon couple of interesting pieces:
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article49714.html
http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/nato-has-a-dream-and-this-dream-is-a-maidan-in-russia/

I will just add a heartfelt f*ck you to the US neo-imperialist oligarchic pieces of sh*t, i hope the bastards, their cronies and their grotesque empire will meet their demise in my lifetime. Like any other empire in history, the bastards WILL fall, the only question is when, the sooner the better (and more gratifying for the likes of me).

US top ranked republican senator again makes headlines.. he is caught
in new evidence right next to and alqaeda -ISIS commander.. from Lybia..
who will have guessed TR1's lovely land of freedom..and justice.. United States..
Have a policy of support and funding of international terrorism?



Here F-15E take a look at your lovely nation weapons in the hands of Alqaeda associate
group Alnusra .



How much evidence is needed.. for people in the world to condemn
USA support ,financing for Alqaeda and ISIS.  The closest thing we
got was UNASUR (the European Union of South America) all south american countries..
condemned today US Gov interference and attempts to destabilization in the democratically
elected Government of Venezuela. But the European union look to the sides.. and do not
make any sanctions against US for its cooperation with international terrorism and for its
interference in the politics of democratically elected governments in the world by promoting
violence and unrest..

flamming_python wrote:

Hisroyalhighness wrote:
Which will go to the Oligarchs' thugs and not to the UA as seen countless times before.

You mean - it will go to the Novorussian fighters, as seen countless times before

Right.   

LIFE begins to normalise in #Donetsk - Bars begin to open. Young people come out to enjoy life again. Some restaurants open

https://twitter.com/Hermius1/status/573989747921657856

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-uEmKjVL0Q

In Lugansk Republik textile factory Gloria-Jeans restart its production as they sigh a firm contract with Russian buyer to sell their products in Russian market. Russian contract will return 80% of all employed worker before the war started. With rise of domestic and Eurasian demands, they could grow back to 100% employment.

The american Bullshit Media is trying hard to provoke Unrest in Russia..
Now with the so called "Russian ARmy Soldiers " killed in Ukraine.. They have an entire operation
dedicated to find the names of the they claim died fighting in Ukraine and are using family members suffering as a weapon against the Russian government. Anyone who died in any place
in Russia in 2014,.. will be blamed on the Ukraine conflict.. even if he plane crashed during exercises in the far east..   Is all about Public Opinion.. The white house Ultimate Aim is to get
people raise against the Russian government and start a new euromaidan.  The west will die waiting to see an euromaidan in Russia. not going to happen.



Pentagon claims 14,000 Russian army soldiers in Ukraine..with their tanks and artillery.. you
cannot pull that from the nothing..OSCE have said have not seen any army or tanks crossing the borders controlled by the Rebels.. kiev even claimed Nukes used in Ukraine by Russia.

Proof is needed. If they can sctually prove it, is something else. Since most people in Russia have served at one point or another, and I bet you can pay nearly any person to make a claim. Pay me and I can claim too.

higurashihougi wrote:http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/germany-concerned-about-aggressive-nato-stance-on-ukraine-a-1022193.html

Breedlove's Bellicosity: Berlin Alarmed by Aggressive NATO Stance on Ukraine

US President Obama supports Chancellor Merkel's efforts at finding a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis. But hawks in Washington seem determined to torpedo Berlin's approach. And NATO's top commander in Europe hasn't been helping either.

It was quiet in eastern Ukraine last Wednesday. Indeed, it was another quiet day in an extended stretch of relative calm. The battles between the Ukrainian army and the pro-Russian separatists had largely stopped and heavy weaponry was being withdrawn. The Minsk cease-fire wasn't holding perfectly, but it was holding.

On that same day, General Philip Breedlove, the top NATO commander in Europe, stepped before the press in Washington. Putin, the 59-year-old said, had once again "upped the ante" in eastern Ukraine -- with "well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of their most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery" having been sent to the Donbass. "What is clear," Breedlove said, "is that right now, it is not getting better. It is getting worse every day."

German leaders in Berlin were stunned. They didn't understand what Breedlove was talking about. And it wasn't the first time. Once again, the German government, supported by intelligence gathered by the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany's foreign intelligence agency, did not share the view of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR).

The pattern has become a familiar one. For months, Breedlove has been commenting on Russian activities in eastern Ukraine, speaking of troop advances on the border, the amassing of munitions and alleged columns of Russian tanks. Over and over again, Breedlove's numbers have been significantly higher than those in the possession of America's NATO allies in Europe. As such, he is playing directly into the hands of the hardliners in the US Congress and in NATO.

The German government is alarmed. Are the Americans trying to thwart European efforts at mediation led by Chancellor Angela Merkel? Sources in the Chancellery have referred to Breedlove's comments as "dangerous propaganda." Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier even found it necessary recently to bring up Breedlove's comments with NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg.

(see more in the link)

Breedlove rhymes with Strangelove, Kubrick's well-known blockbuster.

I've been flaming the Ukro-nazi trolls on You-Tube (again) and I though that forum members might enjoy the screed...


Low brow propaganda, made by Amerikanz and Ukro-nazis, for Amerikanz and ukro-nazis...

Of course Russia is involved in helping the DPR/LPR defend themselves against Ukro-nazi aggression. These untermensch from Lvov had always intended to pursue a progom against the Russian-speaking peoples of the East and South. Both Dimitry Yarrosh and Igor Kolomoiski were openly talking about the upcoming war only days after the coup, and this was BEFORE Crimea seceeded and the Odessa massacre by Right Sector thugs.

You reich-wing Amerikanz and your Ukro-nazi goons are simply pathetic. Your endless hatred of Russia is absurd and misplaced. The country is a capitalistic democratic multi-national nation that accepts international institutions and respects (legitimate) private ownership. Putin is popular, uncorrupt and moderate (this IS the truth despite the lies and agitprop that spews from US corporate-controlled elite-owned media organs) . US-Russian relations are breaking down, not because of "Russian aggression" but due to endless neo-con inspired geo-political aggression aimed at forcing Russia to be subservient to US wishes and accepting its allocated place as a dog beneath the US table. The neo-con inspired PNAC (Project for a New American Century) is not dead, but its been adopted covertly and all US Presidents from Clinton to Obongo are following the script.

The US encouraged the corrupt Yeltsin to allow Oligarchs to asset-strip the nation and stash their cash in Western banks and invest in new York & London real estate (thus helping asset price inflation to benefit the 1%) and proceeded with de-centralizing power to the regions as part of the plan to de-stabilize and eventually fragment Russia. Madeline Albright has stated on numerous occasions that Russia should be "broken up" into three separate nations (European Russia west of Urals, Central Siberia and the far East) in order to "become more democratic" (WTF?) and to "better intergrate into the global economy and financial order" (WTF x2?). Outrageous statements, yet the US political elite don't see the problem as they believe its their doG-given right to interfere with and dominate others....

The US (beginning with Clinton) betrayed the promises to Gorbachev and are intent on expanding NATO to Russias border. They have conducted numerous colour revolutions in places like Georgia, Ukraine & Kyrgyzstan as part of their agenda, and attempted the same in Belarus. They have sponsored the worst Russophobic elements in those countries to project threats around the Russian periphery and upset Russia's efforts at regional cooperation. They have encouraged military aggression by Georgia in 2008 (as witnessed and reported by the OSCE) and have supported via their Saudi-proxies the terrorist Wahabbist movements in the Russian Caucasus (eg Chechnya), while simultaneously castigating Russia over its response to such terrorist movements.

The US has unilaterally abandoned the ABM treaty and strong-armed the Europeans to accept US ABM systems in Europe in their quest for nuclear primacy (as well as seaborne radars in the Far East). They have attempted to use the excuse of non-existent Iranian missiles and nukes to justify this, yet it is clear that the real reason is to diminish Russia & China's capabilities in a limited exchange scenario.

Witness also the small minded petty attacks on Russia's reputation by US and its elite-owned media houses. US media gave massive exposure to the Pussy Riot feminist anarchist collective (when such behaviour would be roundly condemned were it to happen in the US), engaged in a widespread smear campaign against the Sochi Winter Olympics (cries of "corruption" and fake stories about poor facilities), and politicised the child-protection laws as an "anti-gay" pogrom. Couple this with the eternal effort at unfairly presenting Russia as a undemocratic police state run by kleptocrats with no free media or independent judiciary and you have a classic example of a deliberate broad-based agitprop program.

Finally, the Neo-cons were enraged that their plans to attack Syria and overthrow the Assad government were foiled by Putin's diplomacy, and now want both revenge and to force Moscow to pull its support for Syria to enable future US plots to unfold. What better way than to continue and intensify their efforts to subvert Ukraine? They covet Ukraine and wish to turn it into a repeat of revanchist-run Poland, and have sponsored the worst of the Western Ukrainian ultra-nationalists and neo-nazi ratbags to this effect. despite popular agitprop, Russia did NOT pressure Yanukovich over the Association Agreement - Yanukovich balked when the detailed proposal made clear that Ukraine was required to sacrifice much of its trade with Russia, yet was not compensated for its losses (estimated to be >$100B). Ukraine needed cash, but the agreement offered nothing. Russia agreed to stump up cash, yet THIS is derided by the EU/US as "interference"????

Peaceful protests by disappointed citizens was soon replaced by organised violence by radical groups who engaged in widespread street fighting with riot police and occupation of public buildings, yet the collective West remained fixated on disparaging the target government. USGov figures like John McCain and Victoria "Feck the EU" Nudelman (Nuland) showed clear public US support to these violent extremist groups. Were such behavior to be seen on US streets, supported openly by Russian or Chinese officials, who can doubt that the USGov response would be a Ferguson-style show of force with extensive use of firearms and multiple fatalities, and condemnation of foreign involvement? When the Ukr government finally buckled and signed a EU-"negotiated" settlement, mystery snipers opened the way to the final stage of the coup, and the new regime included openly neo-nazis and nationalist extremists in key positions in the new power structure.

The new regime openly prepared for a confrontation with the supporters of the old government. Right Sector thugs openly murdered dozens of anti-regime activists in Odessa while the Western world simply looked away and our media presented the most banal sanitized version of events that they could get away with (consider if the victims were Jews killed by Islamist radicals - how would the coverage have differed?). Crimeans had seen enough and decided to enhance their constitutional autonomy and outrightly secede. Russia was asked to provide security in the form of "little green men" to prevent regime-stooges like Right Sector thugs or (dis)loyal elements of the Ukr military from interfering while the break was made and the Crimean public consulted to approve the move. With overwhelming support, Crimea formally seceded and rejoined the Russian Federation.

This result was a RESOUNDING defeat for both the coup regime and the neo-con plotters who had long fantasized about evicting Russia from her centuries-long presence at the Crimean naval bases, and for installing NATO forces to threaten Russia's southern underbelly. Their rage was palpable... Nuland was positively crimson with apoplexy as she saw her dreams starting to go up in smoke...

Simultaneously, the supporters of the overthrown government began to rebel against the coup. Oblasts such as Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov were quickly overtaken by supporters of the coup regime, but Donbass was staunchly pro-Yanukovich and was most distant from Kiev, and had long borders with Russia. Loyalists were able to prevent the takeover by local regime-goons and began to prepare for the inevitable assault. It is noticeable that the regime did not even attempt to neogtiate with Donbass, but immediately sought a military solution, which the US/EU readily approved of. Did Russia provide assistance? Of course they did, but given what was happening, they acted correctly. Kiev was launching a punitive attack to crush the most visible symbol of resistance to the regime, and they had the FULL support of the US and their EU lackies.

Consider the hypocracy of the US/EU view in this regard, In Kosovo, when the US/UK was covertly supporting a known criminal militant organisation the KLA/UCK (funded with the proceeds of heroin trade and prostitution rings into southern Europe), the US/EU roundly CONDEMNED Serbian government efforts at combating the insurgents, and demanded Serbia negotiate. In 18 months of counter-terrorism fighting, only 1,200 fatalities resulted (from both sides), yet for US/EU warmongers this was sufficient to justify an all-out air-assault by NATO forces against the Serbian nation. By contrast, 3000 dead in just 6 months of Kievs unprovoked military assault was ignored by US/EU, who instead condemned Russia's efforts at helping Donbass in their defense.

The rest is history. Kiev regular military refused to fight, and their commanders were replaced with regime-stooges, but still they proved inadequate. A new National Guard was formed, and together with 'volunteer battalions" (ie paid mercenary units) full of ultra-nationalists, the assault escalated and received praise in Western media with glowing reports from the frontlines. MH17 was shotdown and Russia immediately blamed before any investigations could be performed, and the regime spewed forth its shoddy and easily-debunked agitprop to blame its enemies. Russian denials were universally treated with contempt in yet another appalling display of MSM acquiescence to the US/EU agenda.

On the battlefield however, events don't follow the mad scribbling of paid media hacks, and Ukie command incompetence doomed the regimes efforts as across the front, Ukro-Wermacht units were being smashed and contained in multiple cauldrons, and were slowly ground into meat paste. On the disaster at Illoviask and the inevitable collapse of the offensive, stories were fabricated about "Russian Invasion" yet for all of the US much-vaunted spy satellite technology, they produced ZERO EVIDENCE to back up their claims.

A ceasefire was hurriedly called to allow the Ukies to regroup, but when they lost control of the Donetsk airport they launched their assault, but it was pushed back within days and the DPR/LPR struck back, sealing the salient at Debaltseve and inflicting another crushing defeat on the Ukro-Wermacht, and inspiring yet more unsubstantiated stories of "Russian Invasion".

Russia-hating trollz on this site can scream and cry and throw an infantile tantrum as much as they want BUT THAT CANNOT CHANGE THE FACTS. The coup regime and the Poroshenko "make-over" is DOOMED. Russia has ensured that they cannot crush their enemies by military force, and the ongoing collapse of the Ukrainian economy will destroy any support they may have with the Ukrainian voting public. Yanukovich's government may have been corrupt (as are ALL governments in a country owned and controlled by a handful of selfish greedy oligarchs), but the nations economc & financial meltdown and sheer incompetence of the Kiev regime, it's divisive nationalist screed, it's oppression and repression of Russian speaking ethnic groups and its bloody-minded insistence in a military solution leading to mass military conscription and widespread draft-dodging by a war-weary public will lead to this regimes complete downfall.

Congratulations to Russia!! You have regained Crimea, defeated the neo-nazis, frustrated the like of McCain and Nudelman, and demonstrated clearly to the Chinese ruling elite the deep depravity of US foreign policy and the despicable depths to which these soulless greedy people will descend in order to promote global US hegemony and preserve their uni-polar order.

Three cheers for Putin!!! Three cheers for Russia!! Three cheers for Novorossiya!!

Breedlove?

More like Fuckhate...

This character is a certifiable psychopath and habitual liar who possesses not a scrap of personal integrity or conscience... in other words, he is a perfect choice to run the HATO global terrorist organisation.

Note how Breedlove pours it on thick and rich as he yaps about Russia sending its "latest" and "best" forces to fight in Ukraine.
What a masturbator! You wish, you chihuahua, that Russia could only achieve what some rebels with rather poor equipment and
not enough men can do. I applaud the rebels for pulling off such a level of success, but if Russia was using its best forces this
war would have been over in less than two weeks. American idiots are like all the other western pinheads over the last 1000 years
who thought they could "cakewalk" over Russia. They all had to eat shit. America is clearly itching to join their ranks.

I hope that Russia extracts the highest price from the lunatic aggressors trying to start a war against it. Americans should
not feel safe behind their ocean moat. Every dead Russian civilian needs to be paid in full by an American life.

There was an unsuccessful attempt to assassinate Mozgovoy. Someone placed a bomb in his car.

edit- the new UKR helmet - "Cyborg".

^^^how does the dude breathe through that? looks very uncomfortable too. hope this thing really works and not just made for rule of cool- looks like the ghost recon futuristic soldier helmet.

collegeboy16 wrote:^^^how does the dude breathe through that? looks very uncomfortable too. hope this thing really works and not just made for rule of cool- looks like the  ghost recon futuristic soldier helmet.

If that looks cool then Deni Devito is the prettiest man alive, that thing looks like styrofoam a 9 year old made.

Werewolf wrote:

If that looks cool then Deni Devito is the prettiest man alive, that thing looks like styrofoam a 9 year old made.

didnt say it was cool or anything. just that maybe the people who made this only had the videogame helmet look in mind and not how a helmet should work.

a poor hobby like try to recreate the MPAS helmet which the starving ukranian dogs will never see anyway on the frontline in the trenches

Not so great to make races with armour.