Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

magnumcromagnon wrote:Turkish fascists carve Turkish flag on forehead of fellow Kurdish student while forcing her to carry a Turkish flag

Have they picked this idea up from their buddies, the Neo Nazis in Ukraine?

FEMEN will leap into action demanding an end to this outrage ..... sometime never.

"At least 34 dead and 125 injured in blast in Turkish capital Ankara just weeks after 30 were killed in car bomb there

Explosion struck central Kizilay square where embassies are based
Several vehicles were destroyed or damaged in the blast
Local sources say death toll could be much higher
Ankara court has ordered a ban on access to Facebook and Twitter
Takes place less than a month after car bomb that killed 29 people
The US embassy in Ankara had warned about a potential terrorist attack"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3490400/Many-dead-injured-blast-Turkish-capital-Ankara-just-weeks-30-killed-car-bomb-there.html#ixzz42p3l2El2

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magnumcromagnon wrote:Turkish fascists carve Turkish flag on forehead of fellow Kurdish student while forcing her to carry a Turkish flag

Have they picked this idea up from their buddies, the Neo Nazis in Ukraine?

FEMEN will leap into action demanding an end to this outrage .....  sometime never.

Turkey demands democracy in Syria...BTW where ar ethose all HR defender´s who care about rights of V column in Russia?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:Turkish fascists carve Turkish flag on forehead of fellow Kurdish student while forcing her to carry a Turkish flag

Have they picked this idea up from their buddies, the Neo Nazis in Ukraine?

FEMEN will leap into action demanding an end to this outrage .....  sometime never.

Turkey demands democracy in Syria...BTW where ar ethose all HR defender´s who care about rights of V column in Russia?

Like I said in another thread, George Soro's visited Turdogan a month ago and gave him his full support....which means their won't be a color revolution to topple his tyrannical regime, and only NGO's will be there to scuttle in any real opposition in Turkey. It's time for Russia to create a Novo-Kurdistan in Turkey, which hopefully covers all of southern Turkey all the way to Constantinople, to the Bosporus and Dardanelles...

Heavy clashes between Turkish army and PKK in Diyarbakir over night

Turkish Air Force raids PKK targets in Northern Iraq

Turkey lashed out Monday at Kurdish targets, bombing military positions in northern Iraq and rounding up dozens of militants at home after a suicide car bombing in the heart of the capital drew the country even deeper into the complex Syrian conflict.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said there were “strong indications” that Sunday’s attack was carried out by the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack.

Davutoglu added that authorities had detained 11 people directly connected to the suicide bombing near a line of bus stops that killed 37 people. DNA tests were underway to identify the bomber and another body believed to be that of a person who assisted, he said, while a senior government official has said the bomber was a woman.

“There are very serious, almost-certain indications that point to the separatist terror organization,” Davutoglu said, referring to the PKK.

The attack further complicated Turkey’s place in the region as it battles a host of enemies across its borders including the Syrian government, Kurdish rebels in both Iraq and Syria, and the Islamic State group, even after being forced to absorb 2.7 million refugees from the conflict.

Turkey is also battling the PKK, a Kurdish group fighting for autonomy in southeastern Turkey for three decades. A fragile, 2½-year peace process broke down in July. Turkey blames the PKK, saying it was inspired by the success of the Kurdish militia forces in Syria against IS in the city of Kobani and elsewhere. The PKK blames Turkey for failing to deliver on promises.

More than 200 people have died in five suicide bombings in Turkey since July that were blamed either on the Kurdish rebels or IS. Sunday’s attack was the second suicide bombing in the capital: a Feb. 17 attack for which a PKK offshoot claimed responsibility killed 29 people.

“All five attacks are linked to the fallout of the Syrian civil war,” said Soner Cagaptay, a Turkey expert at the Washington Institute. “Ankara’s ill-executed Syria policy ... has exposed Turkey to great risks.”

Bill Park, a lecturer on Turkish foreign policy and security at King’s College London, said Ankara’s aggression toward the Kurds in Syria has angered Kurds inside Turkey and inspired attacks.

“Bombings in Turkey now look like a campaign and we have to assume that there will be more,” he said.

If the bombing was the work of a PKK-affiliated group, it could mark a shift in tactics, since the group had previously targeted Turkey’s security forces instead of civilians, said Otso Iho, a senior analyst at IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Centre.

He said, however, that “any potential escalation of PKK attacks on purely civilian or tourist targets would likely be somewhat tempered by the group’s awareness of the need to maintain its public image internationally.”

Turkey considers the PKK and the Kurdish militia in Syria to be one and the same, and has been pressing its U.S. allies to stop helping the Syrian Kurds. Washington considers the PKK a terrorist organization but has backed the Kurdish militia in Syria, which has been effective in fighting IS.

Both the U.S. and Turkey have generally good relations with the Kurds in northern Iraq; Monday’s airstrikes in northern Iraq targeted PKK bases rather than installations of the Iraqi Kurds.

Nine F-16s and two F-4 jets raided 18 PKK positions, including the Qandil mountains, where the group’s leadership is based, the state-run Anadolu Agency reported. Ammunition depots, bunkers and shelters were among the targets.

Police carried out raids in the southern city of Adana, detaining 38 suspected PKK rebels, while 15 suspected Kurdish militants were detained in Istanbul, the agency reported. In addition, authorities were searching for 10 suspects connected to the female bomber, Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus said.

Turkey already had plans for large-scale operations against Kurdish militants. Anadolu said an operation in Nusaybin, on the border with Syria, began Monday, while tanks were deployed for another operation in the town of Yuksekova, near the border with Iraq. Authorities also imposed a curfew in the city of Sirnak, near the Iraqi border, signaling the military was preparing an offensive there as well.

Davutoglu vowed that Turkey’s struggle against the PKK would continue until the group is wiped out.

“After (the links) to the terror organization were determined, our Armed Forces conducted a comprehensive operation in northern Iraq. Our struggle against the terror points in Nusaybin and Yuksekova are continuing,” Davutoglu said. “We will not shy away from taking the necessary steps.”

Turkey has ordered curfews in flashpoints in the southeast since August in its fight against the PKK, which had set up barricades, dug trenches and planted explosives. Tens of thousands of people have been displaced, and human rights groups have criticized the military for scores of civilian deaths.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan canceled a visit Tuesday to Baku, his office said, adding that Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliev would instead travel to Ankara in a show of solidarity.

In a speech later Monday, Erdogan urged the government to “redefine” terrorism and terrorists so that legal action can be expanded against anyone supporting terrorism — including lawmakers, academics, journalists or activists.

His words appeared to be directed at a pro-Kurdish political party that he accuses of being the political arm of the Kurdish rebels, opposition journalists he accuses of supporting his foes, and academics who are facing prosecution for calling on the government to end the conflict against the PKK.

“Either they are on our side, or on the side of the terrorists,” Erdogan said.

The death toll in Sunday’s attack rose to 37 after three people died from their wounds. About 125 people were wounded, with 50 of them still hospitalized. Of those, 15 were in serious condition.

Some of the victims were buried Monday.

Anadolu said one of the dead was the father of Umut Bulut, who plays for Galatasaray, a top Turkish soccer team, Galatasaray. The father was on his way home after watching his son play when the blast occurred, the agency said, adding that the son didn’t learn of his death until he showed up for training Monday.

Also killed was police officer Nevzat Alagoz, who was heading home after working security for the match, according to Anadolu.

Another victim, 19-year-old engineering student Ozan Can Akkus, had lost a friend in an October bombing, the newspaper Hurriyet said.

Syrian Kurds proclaim federative district in northern Syria — Kurdish representative

More:
http://tass.ru/en/world/863166

George1 wrote:Syrian Kurds proclaim federative district in northern Syria — Kurdish representative

More:
http://tass.ru/en/world/863166

so next such move in Turkey?

Seems that Turks lost tank to YPS in Nisêbîn today.

Good look at the Turkish - Kurdish situation;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpWkU9D6MM&ebc=ANyPxKp1AykIZmsMs-lMBLOfVVVxzUwKRCjbSIMhcO3k5mhyx7yHNzGVHzv9XRPIatmbi4s_bDTX

Turks emulate their ISIS brothers. They film themselves dragging a corpse of a dead Kurd around the streets of Cizre

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201603181524-kpju.htm

Yandex translation:

"In the Network appeared the frames of brutal humiliation of the Turkish military NATO over the Kurds in the city of Cisra. Footage taken by the Turkish military, has published a user Twitter - the citizen of Turkey Firat Munzur.

They show how to the neck of the murdered Kurd tied a rope and dragged it several meters to land upside down. For scene, one could hear the joyful comments of the Turkish military. It is reported that it happened in the Turkish city of Cisra.

Video: Firat Munzur. Twitter"

Russian Arms Deliveries to Iraqi Kurdistan Approved by Baghdad - Ambassador

Russia's Ambassador to Iraq said that Russia is delivering arms to Iraqi Kurdistan on a schedule that is approved and coordinated with Baghdad authorities.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia is delivering arms to Iraqi Kurdistan on a schedule that is approved and coordinated with Baghdad authorities, Russia's Ambassador to Iraq Ilya Morgunov said.

"All issues regarding military deliveries to Iraq from the Russian side… are discussed with representatives of the federal Iraqi government in Baghdad or Moscow. The weapons are delivered to Iraqi customers as they are produced by Russian enterprises, in accordance with timelines outlined in contracts," Morgunov told RIA Novosti.

"If we're talking about deliveries free of charge to Iraqi Kurdistan in order to strengthen the capacity of the Kurdish Peshmerga self-defense forces, this is done in coordination with the Iraqi government in Baghdad, where Russian planes arrive for customs procedures and to obtain consent to proceed to Erbil. The Kurds are primarily supplied with small and medium firearms and ammunition," he added.

Russian companies could expand their presence in Iraqi Kurdistan and this matter was discussed at a meeting with the autonomous region's President Masoud Barzani and other top Kurdish officials, Russia's Ambassador said.

"Meetings have been held with President Masoud Barzani, Prime Minister of the regional government Nechervan Barzani, the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and former President Jalal Talabani… Issues were discussed regarding delegation exchange in 2016 and expanding the work of Russian companies on the territory of Iraqi Kurdistan," Morgunov told RIA Novosti.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160323/1036794033/russian-arms-deliveries-kurdistan.html#ixzz43iChwFzF

Thats very important news. It seems we have a coordinated effort from both - Russia and US - to aid Syrian and Iraqi kurds. At the same time Kurds of Turkey are seen with sympathy from all world for their fight against Turkish authoritarian government.

In the article “Kurdistan – Turkey’s Kosovo” Prof. Sotirović compared different aspects of Turkish Kurdistan case to the Kosovo one, found some parallels and pointed out Turkey’s hypocrisy.
While Prof. Sotirović is right in his assessment that Turkey is hypocritical to say at least, he failed to expose the fundamental differences between Kurdistan and Kosovo. His article contains some inaccuracies, misinterpretations and lacks in detail. Such an imprecise comparison may lead a reader who is not familiar with Balkans to acquire a false impression. A reader might come to conclusion that Kosovo Albanians had experienced the same level of suffering and injustice as did the Kurds which later led them to rebellion. That would seriously mislead the readers . To substantiate this view let’s point out few errors in the article in question.

Status of the minority

"Stubborn reluctance of any kind of the Turkish government to recognize the Kurdish separate existence as the ethnic group of its own specific language and culture… The Turkish rejection to recognize a minority status of the Kurds with granting a national-cultural or political autonomous status for Turkey’s Kurdistan… Ankara’s discrimination and oppressive anti-Kurdish policy led finally to the establishment of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (the PKK) in 1978 for the sake to fight for unrecognized the Kurdish minority rights“

Albanians were in a completely opposite situation. Its ethnic minority in Yugoslavia was recognized. Their language was recognized too. Albanians did have their ethnic state, Albania, while Kurds never enjoyed such privilege. Besides, Albanian minority had their own unique ethnic university in Kosovo since 1969 (no Western “democracies” have ever allowed its minorities to establish universities). In 1974, to appease endless Albanian minority irredentism and their sporadic violence, the Yugoslav government carved out a part of historic Serbian land of Kosovo as Albanian autonomous province (this act can be compared to Khrushchev’s selfish donation of Crimea to Ukraine in 1954).
Nevertheless, Albanians, inspired by anti-Yugoslav circles in the West, renewed disorders in 1981 demanding federalization. Please take note that 1981 was long before strongman Milosevic appeared. In fact, Milosevic rose to power in 1989 promising people that he would put an end to Albanian violence in Kosovo. So if we compare humiliated Kurds in Turkey and privileged Albanians prior to their insurgency in 1981, we must say the two cases are fundamentally different.



The bellicose component:

… the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army] – a typical terrorist organization as a replica of the PKK, the IRA, the ETA or the Hezbollah.

This is implicitly wrong. KLA is a paramilitary wing of deeply-rooted Albanian mafia (for better understanding of the history, nature and cultural background of Albanian mafia please read very insightful Jana Arsovska’s article “Gender-based subordination and trafficking of women in ethnic Albanian context. The upward revaluation of the Kanun morality” [Journal of Moving Communities, vol.6, No.1, May 2006]). his new brand name, Kosovo Liberation Army, was coined for mere propaganda purposes. The intent was to give a false impression to the western audience that the US-backed project was actually a fight for someone’s freedom, which, if true, would be a legitimate cause. KLA (read Albanian mafia) was armed, trained, and injected into Yugoslavia by CIA. They still keep supporting it up-to-date in its citadel of Kosovo. By contrast, the name of Kurdish Workers Party reflects the Marxist ideology of their leader. The name does not appear to have been fashioned to appeal to tastes of Western mainstream media propaganda consumers.

Number of victims

For the matter of comparison, during the Kosovo crisis in 1998−1999 both the West and the US saw the terror acts carried out only by Serbia’s government…

If we compare tens of thousands of obliterated and hundreds of thousands expelled Kurdish civilians in Turkey from 1978-present with the “terror acts carried out by Serbia’s government”, the picture will not be that impressive:
“One year later, the International War Crimes Tribunal, a body in effect set up by NATO, announced that the final count of bodies found in Kosovo’s “mass graves” was 2,788. This included combatants on both sides, Serbs and Roma murdered by the Albanian KLA as well…” (John Pilger, Reminders of Kosovo) In addition, can any of the following terror-related facts justify the struggle for self-determination?

“Indeed, even as Blair the war leader was on a triumphant tour of “liberated” Kosovo, the KLA was ethnically cleansing more than 200,000 Serbs and Roma from the province. Last February the “international community”, led by the US, recognized Kosovo, which has no formal economy and is run, in effect, by criminal gangs that traffic in drugs, contraband and women. But it has one valuable asset: the US military base Camp Bondsteel, described by the Council of Europe’s human rights commissioner as “a smaller version of Guantanamo” (John Pilger, Don’t Forget Yugoslavia)

Guests on the land

… [Kurds are] the oldest population in Turkey living in Anatolia almost 3.000 years before the first (Seljuk) Turks came there at the end of the 11th century.
For the matters of accuracy, we should also remark that the state in 1999 was Yugoslavia, and not Serbia.

Opposite is the case of Kosovo Albanians. According to a Turkish census made in Kosovo in 1455 (!), there were 13,000 Serb households and only 46 Albanian there. Since Kovoso Albanians obtained factual “independence” in 1999, they are busy desecrating, detonating and turning into rubble the unique medieval Serbian churches and monasteries throughout Kosovo. Only four of many Serbian monasteries in Kosovo are included in the UNESCO World Heritage list, but they are still endangered despite kind of protection from the international peacekeeping forces. Hundreds of other Serbian cultural sites there are subject to total elimination due to barbaric Albanian “self-determination”. In this sense Kosovo should be compared not to Kurdistan, but Daesh/ISIS.

Source: http://orientalreview.org/2016/03/28/kosovo-is-not-serbias-kurdistan-but-balkans-isdaesh/

I shared it here also, due to connection with topic

Crazy erdoguards...



This is ridiculous

M79 OSA spotted in use by PKK in Turkey, aganist turkish military in Sirnak

Turkey’s Struggle With Kurds Threatens Iraqi Kurdish Allies - Stratfor

The Turkish government’s conflict with its 20-million Kurdish minority could threaten its political allies, the ruling Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) in Iraqi Kurdistan, the US-based intelligence assessment company Stratfor said in a report.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Strategic Forecasting, Inc. — known as Stratfor — is a US publisher and global intelligence company founded in 1996 in Austin, Texas, by geopolitical forecaster and strategist on international affairs, George Friedman.

"Although the KDP has tied its economic future to Turkey, it must also answer to political rivals at home in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), the Gorran party and smaller Islamic parties," the report stated on Tuesday.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is seeking to crush the Kurdistan People’s Party (KPP) in Turkey and the People’s Protection Units in Syria. Turkey is also increasing its military presence in northern Iraq to "contain Kurdish ambitions" in the region, according to Stratfor.

However, Erdogan’s aggressive behavior is encouraging the KDP’s opponents, such as the PUK, Stratfor said. Coupled with Iraqi Kurdistan’s financial troubles, this could destabilize the Kurdish region, it warned.

On Monday, PUK officials said that the KDP does not speak for them, and they would be willing to join Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi’s Cabinet as long as they get their requested positions.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160413/1037907573/turkey-kurds-iraq.html#ixzz45hm32Isp

PKK Fighters Kill Four Turkish Army Personnel in Southeast Provinces

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160413/1037905925/turkish-army-pkk.html#ixzz45hmFTwzd

General Staff: 6 Turkish Soldiers Killed, 8 Wounded in Clashes With Kurds

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160513/1039544155/turkey-kurds-clashes-soldiers-killed.html#ixzz48WHLwSEu

4:13 helicopter hit.

calm wrote:4:13 helicopter hit.

Yes Cobra down...Also 6 Turkish soldiers killed around there.

Su-24, never forgotten, never forgiven!

Give enough weapons to the PKK to wreck havoc in Turkey, only way to have Turkey reconsider its position in Syria.

calm wrote:4:13 helicopter hit.

Wow...

Things just got a lot worse for the Turks in the southeast.

zorobabel wrote:

calm wrote:4:13 helicopter hit.

Wow...

Things just got a lot worse for the Turks in the southeast.

Things got a lot worse for all Super Cobras...Igla S has about 0 issues bringing them down.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

calm wrote:4:13 helicopter hit.

Wow...

Things just got a lot worse for the Turks in the southeast.

Things got a lot worse for all Super Cobras...Igla S has about 0 issues bringing them down.

Crazy. That's their primary attack helicopter (along with the old cobras).