The Situation in the Ukraine. #13

type055 wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

China’s amphibious assault ships will begin to build in 1 or 2 years, Mistral is too small ,China's ship will be 36,000tons

Neutrality wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

par far wrote:What I don't get is why can't Russia or China built their own Mistrals. Are Russia and China that behind France in terms of weapons technology?

par far wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

What I don't get is why can't Russia or China built their own Mistrals. Are Russia and China that behind France in terms of weapons technology?

‏@NinaByzantina wrote:US instructors train #Ukraine's soldiers to fight "Cold War foe" #Russia by using targets named Ivan. #Украина

IHS Jane's 360 wrote:SACEUR, analysts see Russia renewing invasion of Ukraine in next two months
Reuben F Johnson, Kiev - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly 10 May 2015

A consensus is building among NATO officials and military analysts of the situation in Eastern Ukraine that Russia will renew its invasion of the region in the next two months.

However, there is also general agreement that the attack would take only after the 9 May Victory Day celebrations in Moscow, which President Vladimir Putin regards as reaffirming Russia's continued position as a "great power."

The predictions of a new Russian offensive by analysts have coincided with similar statements by officials such as NATO Supreme Commander, USAF General Philip Breedlove. Gen Breedlove testified to this effect before the US Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC) on 30 April, stating that the sometimes on-sometimes off ceasefire agreed in February after the second round of Minsk negotiations had been utilised by the Russian forces to "reset and reposition".

NATO's assessment, he added, is that the Russian military's goal is to secure the gains made on territory already taken in the Ukraine Donbass region, as well as to deploy for the launch of a late spring attack. "Many of their [the Russians'] actions are consistent with preparations for another offensive," he said, adding that Russian forces' activities were not just exercises but "preparing, training, and equipping to have the capacity again to take an offensive." Continue reading.

ChanneL 27 wrote:A huge column of Humvees moved to Lugansk 10/05/15

RT via Google Translate wrote:ООН не подтверждает открытие на Украине офиса по поддержке минских договорённостей
The UN does not support the opening of an office in Ukraine in support of the Minsk agreements
05/11/2015, 20:13

The UN does not confirm the words of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, the opening of an office in Ukraine in support of the Minsk agreements. This was reported today by deputy spokesman Farhan Haq secretary general of the organization.

Earlier, the press service of the President of Ukraine said that the meeting Ukrainian President Poroshenko with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, an agreement was reached on the opening of an office in Ukraine in support of the Minsk Agreement on the settlement of the conflict in the Donbass. However, transfers RIA Novosti, deputy spokesman Farhan Haq, UN Secretary-General has not confirmed this information.
"I can not confirm this," - he leads the agency Haq, speaking at a briefing today.
The press service of the United Nations reported that the talks discussed the progress of the Minsk agreements. Haq said that "this has nothing to add." Continue reading.

RuptlyTV wrote:30,000 celebrate DPR anniversary in Donetsk

REPUBLIC OF NOVORUSSIA wrote:In Melitopol booed servicemen

RT wrote:‘No people there, only terrorists’: Pro-Kiev governor eyes cutting road transport with rebel areas
May 11, 2015 12:41

The Kiev-appointed governor of Lugansk region plans to cut all road transport between Ukraine and the self-proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic. On Friday, almost 170 freight trucks were prevented from crossing the border.

“Soon any crossings of the disengagement line [between areas controlled by the Ukrainian government and the rebels] for transport, including cars, will be cut. All motorways will be blocked. An exception would be made only for pedestrians,” said a statement published on Gennady Moskal’s website.

Moskal, who was appointed as the head of “civilian-military administration” of the Lugansk region by Kiev, was reporting the seizure of two trucks, which were “illegally” transporting beer to the rebel-held areas. A video of the episode was published on YouTube. Continue reading.

ostunt wrote:

RIA Novosti wrote:Пушилин: ДНР согласна на широчайшую автономию
Pushilin: DNR agrees to the widest autonomy
14:12 05/11/2015 (Updated: 14:55 05/11/2015)

Self-proclaimed Republic agrees to the widest autonomy, without prejudice to its interests, said Denis Pushilin. This DNR proposes an article in the constitution that the other regions of Ukraine have the right to self-determination.

DONETSK, May 11 - RIA Novosti. Donetsk People's Republic agrees to the widest autonomy, without prejudice to its interests, but if Kiev will continue to violate the Minsk Agreement, the DNR will move toward full independence, said the vice-speaker of the People's Council DNI Dennis Pushilin.

"We agree on the broadest autonomy without sacrificing our interests," - said Pushilin journalists on Monday.

"If Kiev will continue to violate the Minsk Agreement, DNR will move toward full independence. We propose an article in the constitution that the other regions of Ukraine have the right to self-determination. We are ready for the local elections," - he added. Pushilin noting that Kiev "does not go to consult with us about the changes to the constitution that is written in the Minsk Agreement."
Continue reading.

WarLeaks wrote:Ukraine War 2015 - Ukrainian Paramilitary In Heavy Firefight During Battle For Shyrokyne

wrote:'We feel abandoned' - Life on the frontline in Ukraine
11 May 2015 Last updated at 07:46 BST

There is still no ceasefire in eastern Ukraine but fighting is at a lower level than previously.
Pro-Russian forces held large parades to mark the end of World War Two, but violence between the two sides is not as fierce as it was.
Tom Burridge reports from Donetsk. Video

News-Front wrote:In Donetsk "at gunpoint" tens of thousands of people are celebrating the anniversary of the referendum

Мирошниченко Дмитрий wrote:11.05 (2014) referendum turnout of people

I am proud of my city! No one was sitting at home on their own assholes and moved into the city center to make a personal choice. Personal choice to say yes or no. In the center of elation reigns, people smile. On the other hand holding a referendum for a United Ukraine. It appears with the "For a United Ukraine" there is the question of accession to the Dnipropetrovsk region. Let go nafig Dobropole is Donetsk. Long queues at check-in desks lot. People keep coming to the city centre.

RBC via Google Translate wrote:Немцов узнал о 70 погибших российских военных под Дебальцево
Nemtsov learned about the 70 killed by Russian military Debaltseve
Today, 00:01 Zhanna Ulyanova, Maxim Solopov

Available RBC proved the report "Putin. War ", drawn up by a group of experts with developments Boris Nemtsov. The study attempts to evaluate the total loss of the army and the budget of the Russian war in Ukraine

How to prepare a text

The idea of the report "Putin. War "on Russia's role in the annexation of the Crimea and the possible participation of the Russian military in combat operations in the Ukraine belongs to co-chairman of the RPR-Parnassus, Yaroslavl regional Duma deputy Boris Nemtsov. This study is going to oppose policies to the official version of events. "I figured out what to do. It is necessary to write a report, "Putin said. War ", published its huge circulation and give the streets. Tell us how Putin unleashed the war. The only way we win promotion, "- quoted in the report Nemtsov, at the disposal of RBC.

The Germans did not have time to write the text of the report. February 27, he was killed near the Kremlin. Among the versions of the motives for the murder of his colleagues and friends called to work on this study. Nemtsov left outline of the report, handwritten notes, documents - all were used in the preparation of the document, the document says.

"Putin. War "- a 64-page study, combining evidence published earlier in the media, and their own data Nemtsov in Moscow to intervene in Ukrainian politics and the presence of Russian armed forces in the east of Ukraine. The study is divided into 11 chapters, they cover events in Ukraine since the beginning of the revolution, when, according to the report, the Kremlin has been developed script, "the return of the Crimea" and up to the present time. Continue reading.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

Erk wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

Didn't Ukraine only get a shipment of 10 back in March? There are way more than that in the video.

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

higurashihougi wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Some more humor from everyone's favorite idiot-savant    :

Bill Maher to Kasparov: Shut up Garry, Wake Me Up When Putin Takes Poland!

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bill-maher-kasparov-shut-garry-wake-me-when-putin-takes-poland/ri6656

Oh yeah, tks for the link. Maher is my favorite political comedian.

Even the U.S. people can't fathom the idiocy of Kasparov.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

And maybe ask for some M1 Abrams since there is no doubt that the M1s are no longer the most advanced and best tank as of a few months now. Hell, while the NAF is at it, they may as well ask for some F-22s and/or F-35 seeing as they aren't the most advanced fighters anymore too seeing as the Novorossiyan Air Force needs some functional warplanes.

Erk wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Some more humor from everyone's favorite idiot-savant    :

Bill Maher to Kasparov: Shut up Garry, Wake Me Up When Putin Takes Poland!

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bill-maher-kasparov-shut-garry-wake-me-when-putin-takes-poland/ri6656

Oh yeah, tks for the link. Maher is my favorite political comedian.

Even the U.S. people can't fathom the idiocy of Kasparov.

Omg Kasparov is so dry and out of touch it sad. You have to be pretty nuts to think Putin is going to invade Poland, NATO would have to attack first for something like that to happen.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:

Neutrality wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:2015-05-11 - Large Column of US Military Vehicles heading toward #Lugansk

Good, the NAF can always use more vehicles. They should send an official letter to the State Department thanking them for this generous gesture.

And maybe ask for some M1 Abrams since there is no doubt that the M1s are no longer the most advanced and best tank as of a few months now. Hell, while the NAF is at it, they may as well ask for some F-22s and/or F-35 seeing as they aren't the most advanced fighters anymore too seeing as the Novorossiyan Air Force needs some functional warplanes.