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    Post  whir Mon May 11, 2015 9:58 am

    Sunkar Shock wrote:Germans in Berlin calling dill (not to be confused with Ukrainians) "Nazis"
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    Post  Neutrality Mon May 11, 2015 10:45 am

    Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon May 11, 2015 10:59 am

    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?
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    Post  Neutrality Mon May 11, 2015 11:13 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

    Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.
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    Post  Rodinazombie Mon May 11, 2015 12:15 pm



    Parade in honour of independence day in donetsk taking place right now.

    Im sure they are all agents paid by putin, because theres no way thousands of people could support the invasion by the barbaric horde of russian terrorists against the peace loving democratic lovers of saint bandera, right?
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    Post  etaepsilonk Mon May 11, 2015 12:35 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

    Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

    Only that china is already working on a similar domestic ship called type 81.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon May 11, 2015 1:16 pm

    Werewolf wrote:ukrofascists cut swastikas in POW's.

    No nazis in ukraine according to some trolls on this forum...


    Because NAZISM was not in bed with Americans and The Jews..  
    I have heard Hitler discourses how he mock the American Elite and their arrogance.
    But i never heard any Ukrainian or Poroshenko mocking the american elite..or critisizing its government have you ? instead i see them shaking hands with them.. NAZIS not even liked BAndera IDIOT ,they killed his brother ,and arrested bandera.. Go and learn something ,take a book and read ,use your brain sometimes . what you see in Ukraine is a hollywood modern version of Nazism ,financed by US congress ,that is so different to Hitler ideology that have nothing in common other than that stupid symbol of your video.

    IF you see a group of radicals with Putin tattoos on their Ass ,and they are gays activist,that doesn't means they are fans of Putins , just mentally sick people. I only see in that video mentally crazy people.. not an organized powerful movement . the UltraNationals in Ukraine are only in power ,because of a coup.. Hitler in the other hand got in power legally through elections. and did many positive things at least initially for germany..Right Sector what positive thing they have made for Ukraine? They are retarded idiots ,without school or education. The fact that Ukraine is controlled by Jews, and that Israel support the same groups accused to be nazis ,should be very telling of the fraud for anyone with a basic level of reasoning and logic.
    This is not mentioning how the Jewish banking elite do supported real nazis too.. They will support anyone who can be useful for their interest. Either Alqaeda or ISIS or Hitler or bandera or Mickey Mouse is irrelevant for them , anyone who fight their enemies ,they will support.


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    Post  Werewolf Mon May 11, 2015 1:25 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:ukrofascists cut swastikas in POW's.

    No nazis in ukraine according to some trolls on this forum...


    Because NAZISM was not in bed with Americans and The Jews..  
    I have heard Hitler discourses how he mock the American Elite and their arrogance.
    But i never heard any Ukrainian or Poroshenko mocking the american elite.. instead i see them shaking hands with them.. NAZIS not even liked BAndera IDIOT ,they killed his brother ,and arrested bandera.. what you see in Ukraine is a hollywood modern version of Nazism ,that is so different that have nothing in common other than that stupid symbol of your video.

    IF you see a group of radicals with Putin tattoos on their Ass ,and they are gays activist,that doesn't means they are fans of Putins , just mentally sick people. The fact that Ukraine is controlled by Jews, and that Israel support the same groups accused to be nazis ,should be very telling of the fraud for anyone with a basic level of reasoning and logic.



    Aggree and this man tells like it is. He asks the ukrop reporteur if she is working for SBU or for Mossad.



    And a very well educated man it is about history.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon May 11, 2015 1:51 pm

    Werewolf wrote:

    Aggree and this man tells like it is. He asks the ukrop reporteur if she is working for SBU or for Mossad.



    And a very well educated man it is about history.

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    Good Lord, what an interview! He's brave.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon May 11, 2015 1:58 pm

    Rodinazombie wrote:

    Parade in honour of independence day in donetsk taking place right now.

    Im sure they are all agents paid by putin, because theres no way thousands of people could support the invasion by the barbaric horde of russian terrorists against the peace loving democratic lovers of saint bandera, right?

    That's a lot of people.
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    Post  Neutrality Mon May 11, 2015 2:17 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Aggree and this man tells like it is. He asks the ukrop reporteur if she is working for SBU or for Mossad.



    And a very well educated man it is about history.

    "Can you please say your first and last name, sir?" What kind of journalism is that? Is she part of the police or something? I have never heard a journalist ask someone such personal questions and it only shows what kind of "journalism" is over there.

    Very brave man indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if they persecute him after this interview.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon May 11, 2015 2:20 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

    Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

    Only that china is already working on a similar domestic ship called type 81.
    The Situation in the Ukraine. #13 - Page 16 Type-081-LHD

    Yet there has been no Type 81 sight, while the rumour had it that the LHD would be ready Last year...
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    Post  Werewolf Mon May 11, 2015 3:27 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Aggree and this man tells like it is. He asks the ukrop reporteur if she is working for SBU or for Mossad.



    And a very well educated man it is about history.

    "Can you please say your first and last name, sir?" What kind of journalism is that? Is she part of the police or something? I have never heard a journalist ask someone such personal questions and it only shows what kind of "journalism" is over there.

    Very brave man indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if they persecute him after this interview.

    They certainly will do.

    The SBU is on a witch hunt of anything that is not Nazi enough.
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    Post  Inetwarrior Mon May 11, 2015 4:03 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:

    50000-110000 Poles was killed by Banderashits in Gallicia... no, the Poles will never forget about these crimes.

    Only problem is that our ruling elite pretend that this do not happen... dunno But more and more people raise the voice against cooperations with people who praise Bandera. But still most vocal is promaidan elite...
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    Post  type055 Mon May 11, 2015 4:23 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

    Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.


    China’s amphibious assault ships will begin to build in 1 or 2 years, Mistral is too small ,China's ship will be 36,000tons
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    Post  type055 Mon May 11, 2015 4:24 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Anyone reading the news today? France wants to sell the Mistrals to China. This is an extremely cunning move. If Russia gives its approval they'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone. They'll help their French "collegues" and thus the EU, out of the situation and they give Washington a big fat middle finger. Brilliant.

    I'd do anything to see the look on Obama's face when the news got out.

    Selling BPC's to China? Trolling would be redefined by that move. Arming the Chinese to properly attack Taiwan?

    Pretty much and now their allies in the South East Pacific are alarmed if the news is true.

    Only that china is already working on a similar domestic ship called type 81.
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    It's called type 075 , for sure
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    Post  Regular Mon May 11, 2015 4:58 pm

    Inetwarrior wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:

    50000-110000 Poles was killed by Banderashits in Gallicia... no, the Poles will never forget about these crimes.

    Only problem is that our ruling elite pretend that this do not happen... dunno But more and more people raise the voice against cooperations with people who praise Bandera. But still most vocal is promaidan elite...
    Noticed that with polish people living abroad too. They are not too happy with such support for Ukraine.
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    Post  etaepsilonk Mon May 11, 2015 5:10 pm

    type055 wrote:
    It's called type 075 , for sure

    Well I dunno, many sources I looked into said about "type 081 helicopter carrier"
    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130828000093&cid=1101
    Could be different modifications, considering that none are in service as of yet.

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Yet there has been no Type 81 sight, while the rumour had it that the LHD would be ready Last year...

    Even so, designs of military ships are often modified to suit the specific requirements of the customer. Comm suite, weapon station differences, hangar dimensions between russian and chinese preferences may be such that the latter can find it better to just build new ships altogether.

    Regular wrote:Noticed that with polish people living abroad too. They are not too happy with such support for Ukraine.

    Eh, some unfortunate events which happened several decades or centuries earlier mustn't poison neighborly relationships between the countries. Besides, it's not like polish themselves were angels as far as ukraine is concerned.
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    Post  gregoire Mon May 11, 2015 5:59 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    Aggree and this man tells like it is. He asks the ukrop reporteur if she is working for SBU or for Mossad.



    And a very well educated man it is about history.

    "Can you please say your first and last name, sir?" What kind of journalism is that? Is she part of the police or something? I have never heard a journalist ask someone such personal questions and it only shows what kind of "journalism" is over there.

    Very brave man indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if they persecute him after this interview.

    They certainly will do.

    The SBU is on a witch hunt of anything that is not Nazi enough.

    Strange way of conducting an interview, more like a interrogation. Brave man, totally owned that stupid girl. Hopefully he'll get away unharmed.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon May 11, 2015 6:13 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:
    type055 wrote:
    It's called type 075 , for sure

    Well I dunno, many sources I looked into said about "type 081 helicopter carrier"
    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130828000093&cid=1101
    Could be different modifications, considering that none are in service as of yet.

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Yet there has been no Type 81 sight, while the rumour had it that the LHD would be ready Last year...

    Even so, designs of military ships are often modified to suit the specific requirements of the customer. Comm suite, weapon station differences, hangar dimensions between russian and chinese preferences may be such that the latter can find it better to just build new ships altogether.

    Regular wrote:Noticed that with polish people living abroad too. They are not too happy with such support for Ukraine.

    Eh, some unfortunate events which happened several decades or centuries earlier mustn't poison neighborly relationships between the countries. Besides, it's not like polish themselves were angels as far as ukraine is concerned.

    So far there have ben three shots regarding the type 75 (Check SNAFU), all the shots were way at completely different stages of construction (most of them point towards a 22 ton design) so we don't actually know WHAT is being put together.

    This again while the poject was supposed to be built for end 2014. (Pictures declared around 2013).
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon May 11, 2015 6:18 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:

    Even so, designs of military ships are often modified to suit the specific requirements of the customer. Comm suite, weapon station differences, hangar dimensions between russian and chinese preferences may be such that the latter can find it better to just build new ships altogether.


    Nice observation. I think that these ships will not spend too much time in Chinese ownership if sold to PRC.
    Port Vladivostok is conveniently close to to Chinese coast    Cool  


    etaepsilonk wrote:

    Eh, some unfortunate events which happened several decades or centuries earlier mustn't poison neighborly relationships between the countries. Besides, it's not like polish themselves were angels as far as ukraine is concerned.


    Good and rational thinking. Now if only someone would start applying that principle in their relations towards Russia (for example) and a lot of problems would have been easily solved or avoided altogether...

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon May 11, 2015 6:25 pm

    Some more humor from everyone's favorite idiot-savant  lol1  :

    Bill Maher to Kasparov: Shut up Garry, Wake Me Up When Putin Takes Poland!

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bill-maher-kasparov-shut-garry-wake-me-when-putin-takes-poland/ri6656


    Another hilarious video featuring our favorite russophobe, Garry Kasparov!.................continued.............


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon May 11, 2015 6:35 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Some more humor from everyone's favorite idiot-savant  lol1  :

    Bill Maher to Kasparov: Shut up Garry, Wake Me Up When Putin Takes Poland!

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bill-maher-kasparov-shut-garry-wake-me-when-putin-takes-poland/ri6656


    Another hilarious video featuring our favorite russophobe, Garry Kasparov!.................continued.............



    Too bad most Americans don't know about Kasparov's affiliation with Eduard Limonov and his Neo-Nazi National Bolshivik party...
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    Post  alexZam Mon May 11, 2015 7:23 pm

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon May 11, 2015 7:28 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:

    Even so, designs of military ships are often modified to suit the specific requirements of the customer. Comm suite, weapon station differences, hangar dimensions between russian and chinese preferences may be such that the latter can find it better to just build new ships altogether.


    Nice observation. I think that these ships will not spend too much time in Chinese ownership if sold to PRC.
    Port Vladivostok is conveniently close to to Chinese coast    Cool  


    etaepsilonk wrote:

    Eh, some unfortunate events which happened several decades or centuries earlier mustn't poison neighborly relationships between the countries. Besides, it's not like polish themselves were angels as far as ukraine is concerned.


    Good and rational thinking. Now if only someone would start applying that principle in their relations towards Russia (for example) and a lot of problems would have been easily solved or avoided altogether...


    The French would rather "lose" them (Israeli style) than devise such a complicated plot, only to be the laughter of the International Community. Furthermore the French can't sell anything to anyone without Russian approval.

    As for the "unfortunate" events, well it isn't like those are incidental or accidental, those are basically the backbone of a certain historiography in Banderaland. Angels or not, it isn't the argument here. The argument is, that a genocidary campaign is the catalyst of an independent Ukrainian state...And here we are 70 years later with the same bunch going apedung towards those who don't feel encompassed by the recent "Nasha Ukraiyna" plot, with red and black and white and gold.

    The new Official truth, would be actually hilarious, if more than 10K people weren't dead. Ukraine can't have such a relationship towards the nation that keeps it warm in the winter and 25% of its workforce with a job. Like litterally.


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