Interesting maps and infographics

Godric wrote:

alexZam wrote:The Map Of Europe Would Be Redrawn If All The Separatist Movements Get Their Way



http://www.businessinsider.com/map-o...ampaign=buffer

Scotland will be leaving the UK 2018/19 we must hold our referendum before March 2019 (Brexit)

There is no separatism in the entire Silesia, only in the Upper Silesia, and officially it is not outright separatism but "autonomism." There are some allegations that many of these "Silesian autonomists" are actually undercover ethnic Ukrainians (the flags do look very similar).

In the Lower Silesia there are almost no indigenous Silesians, as it is part of the Recovered Lands that Poland regained in 1945.

I know that because that is where I am from.

Not a map, but what a picture

Αdmiral Kuznetsov, TASS

http://kuznetsov.tass.com/?_ga=2.196697131.625469590.1532436163-1492458617.1519912914

In 2017 the "free market economic miracle" of Poland is only doing a little better than the South-Eastern Europe, without the wars that the former Yugoslavia had to endure (Croatia and Poland are on a similar level).


Back in the Communist period Poland was in the top 10 of the most industrialized countries in the world, and that after suffering horrendous destruction during the Second World War.


Amazing.









PPP = Purchasing Power Parity

MiG-35 presentation

http://mig35.tass.com/istrebitel-mig-35/

Odin of Ossetia wrote:



In 2017 the "free market economic miracle" of Poland is only doing a little better than the South-Eastern Europe, without the wars that the former Yugoslavia had to endure (Croatia and Poland are on a similar level).


Back in the Communist period Poland was in the top 10 of the most industrialized countries in the world, and that after suffering horrendous destruction during the Second World War.

Doing a little better than South-Eastern Europe is actually a big improvement, though. The remaining gap between it and Western Europe is mostly due to the communist era, do you not realize that?

Cherry picking Croatia is also misleading (Slovenia would've been even worse), it obviously suffered much less than Serbia, for example.

Eastern European per capita GDP is also quite impressive by global and historical standards and the region (including Poland) is generally growing faster than Southern Europe.

"In the top 10 of the most industrialized countries"... yeah, sure. What's your source? And most of those industries were uncompetitive.

Kimppis wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:



In 2017 the "free market economic miracle" of Poland is only doing a little better than the South-Eastern Europe, without the wars that the former Yugoslavia had to endure (Croatia and Poland are on a similar level).


Back in the Communist period Poland was in the top 10 of the most industrialized countries in the world, and that after suffering horrendous destruction during the Second World War.

Doing a little better than South-Eastern Europe is actually a big improvement, though. The remaining gap between it and Western Europe is mostly due to the communist era, do you not realize that?

Cherry picking Croatia is also misleading (Slovenia would've been even worse), it obviously suffered much less than Serbia, for example.

Eastern European per capita GDP is also quite impressive by global and historical standards and the region (including Poland) is generally growing faster than Southern Europe.

"In the top 10 of the most industrialized countries"... yeah, sure. What's your source? And most of those industries were uncompetitive.

It is even worse in Poland than that map shows.

That is because the map shows the averages, not the medians, and medians would have been far more accurate in showing the actual situation in Poland. The reason for that is that there is a huge gap between the rich and the rest of the society in Poland; the small minority of the rich with their immense income inflate the average. I heard that the general population in Poland is actually poorer than the general population in Bulgaria, which officially is the poorest EU member country.


And during the 1980's Poland was tenth most industrialized country in the world, which was impressive.


Slovenia got lucky with its treatment by the West, it got better treated by the West as a reward for helping to destroy Yugoslavia; it was the first republic to secede. Also, its separatist war was very short lived and it caused almost no damage and no casualties to the Slovenian population as most of those killed were Yugoslav troops and foreign truck drivers.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

map is resembling eastern-western blocks during cold war

map is resembling eastern-western blocks during cold war

But that is not right is it... those former communist countries should now be economic power houses and democratic utopias by now... and they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids...

It is interesting that all the famine areas in the 1918 Europe were under German, Bulgarian, and Austro-Hungarian occupation.


Entire Russian Poland, Lithuania, western Latvia, western Belarus, a small north-western chunk of Ukraine, Belgium, Luxemburg, Romania, and Serbia (the last two countries as per their borders before the First World War).


Interestingly in the Bolshevik Russia during 1918 there was no outright famine.

Not very surprising considering this was at the end of a fairly major war in the region which involved sanctions and naval blockades...

Asia-Pacific Military Balance

 Interesting infographic on military balance in the Asia-Pacific region, presented in the materials held from September 30 to October 3, 2019 in Sochi at the 16th annual meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club (clickable).



https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3796628.html

While Russia is busy with Syria.

Soviet Partisans, August of 1942 - May of 1943.






https://www.deviantart.com/blickrr/art/a-Map-of-Soviet-Partisans-825923635

Electoral geography in Poland and Romania still corresponds with the borders of the 19th-century empires. By Economist.

"George1", the maps of Poland with the partition boundaries you have posted above are not very accurate, for example the easternmost section of the border between Austria-Hungary and Russia is incorrect (moved too much to the north).


This map is much better:




The bottom map shows the results of the 2014 elections to the provincial parliaments.

Since then the "Law and Justice" Party has expanded westwards, while the "Civic Platform" Party has contracted.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Kimppis wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:



In 2017 the "free market economic miracle" of Poland is only doing a little better than the South-Eastern Europe, without the wars that the former Yugoslavia had to endure (Croatia and Poland are on a similar level).


Back in the Communist period Poland was in the top 10 of the most industrialized countries in the world, and that after suffering horrendous destruction during the Second World War.

Doing a little better than South-Eastern Europe is actually a big improvement, though. The remaining gap between it and Western Europe is mostly due to the communist era, do you not realize that?

Cherry picking Croatia is also misleading (Slovenia would've been even worse), it obviously suffered much less than Serbia, for example.

Eastern European per capita GDP is also quite impressive by global and historical standards and the region (including Poland) is generally growing faster than Southern Europe.

"In the top 10 of the most industrialized countries"... yeah, sure. What's your source? And most of those industries were uncompetitive.

It is even worse in Poland than that map shows.

That is because the map shows the averages, not the medians, and medians would have been far more accurate in showing the actual situation in Poland. The reason for that is that there is a huge gap between the rich and the rest of the society in Poland; the small minority of the rich with their immense income inflate the average. I heard that the general population in Poland is actually poorer than the general population in Bulgaria, which officially is the poorest EU member country.


And during the 1980's Poland was tenth most industrialized country in the world, which was impressive.


Slovenia got lucky with its treatment by the West, it got better treated by the West as a reward for helping to destroy Yugoslavia; it was the first republic to secede. Also, its separatist war was very short lived and it caused almost no damage and no casualties to the Slovenian population as most of those killed were Yugoslav troops and foreign truck drivers.

"Averages" are wrongly taken as "typical".
For instance, I know a group of about 18 guys who are around the same age.
In around 2010 their earnings were around:-
1 on 1m GBP, 1 on 300k GBP, 1 unknown salary, 1 on 175k or so, 12 were on 48k or so average, 1 was on 30k and 1 was on 18k (and he was in London too!)

So one person pretty much earned as much as the rest combined. Which meant the average was double what it would otherwise have been.

Additionally, most people were WAY WAY WAY down from the average. So the average was an utterly meaningless statistic.
Furthermore in Britain, most good salaries are a fcuntion of rich, connected parents, not skills or hard work.

Young people go into the workplace thinking "the average salary is xyz". But in truth, most people will only ever earn quite a lot less than the "average".As shown by the group I actually know.

Its a major problem in many economies due to Neoliberal economics and won't go away soon... if people remain asleep.

Exactly... average only makes sense when you have a nice even bell curve population... sadly in the west the extreme wealth by the 1% of the population makes most stats meaningless.

It would just take Beezos to decide to become a Polish citizen and the average wage would shoot up enormously... but nothing has actually changed, which makes it a meaningless indicator.

Interestingly in the Bolshevik Russia during 1918 there was no outright famine.

In 1918 the Bolsheviks were still fighting with the whites for control, so the famine conditions in Belarus and Ukraine and the near famine conditions in the rest of Russia had nothing at all to do with Communism....

Not off topic since it is an animated infographic. And it gives some context for the above discussion.

The US income distribution makes some 3rd world countries look egalitarian. To think that these clowns yap about
income inequality in Russia!