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Interesting maps and infographics
Hole- Posts : 11121
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- Post n°76
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Somehow you have to distract your citizens from all your internal problems.
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- Post n°77
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
What a powerful eye opener KVS... but the real kicker...
That video is from 2012... I am sure things are better now... would be interesting to see an updated version.
That video is from 2012... I am sure things are better now... would be interesting to see an updated version.
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- Post n°78
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Lost Moscow production facilities:
◦ ZIL-trucks, refrigerators-closed in 2016, now demolished
◦ AZLK-Moskvich cars-closed in 2010, production is partially preserved at Renault, in technopolis "Moscow"
◦ "Sickle and Hammer" - metallurgy-closed in 2011, demolition ends, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Proletarian labor" - hardware, boilers-demolished in 2000, built a residential building
◦ "FILIT" - pipes-closed in the 2000s, planned demolition
◦ Tushinsky Machine-Building Plant-aerospace industry-went bankrupt in 2015, burned down in the same year, it is planned to build up the residential complex
◦ MiG-planes-production in Moscow was stopped in the 2010s, demolition and housing development are planned
◦ Khrunichev Plant-rockets-production is being postponed, it is planned to build a National space Center, offices and housing
◦ Stankoagregat-mechanical engineering-bankrupt in 2018, planned demolition
◦ Machine-tool plant named after him. Ordzhonikidze-production stopped in the 1990s, in 2007 it was converted into a shopping center
◦ Mosselmash-mechanical engineering-partially leased, planned demolition
◦ Vladykinsky Mechanical Plant-demolished ~2016, residential complex is being built up
◦ MSiSZ-ship repair plant-it is planned to move, to build a residential complex in its place by 2022
◦ "Fraser" - cutting tools-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices and warehouses
◦ "Manometer" - instrument engineering-moved to Engels-19, in 2008 a creative cluster was opened in its place
◦ "Red Way" - mechanical plant-closed in 2010, premises for rent
◦ "Severyanin" - mechanical plant-closed in the 2010s, demolished, residential complex under construction
◦ Second Watch Factory ("Slava") - production moved to other factories, demolished in 2011, a multifunctional complex is being built on the site of the factory
◦ "Caliber" – instrumentation – closed in the 2010s, partially demolished under the LCD, partially for rent (as Technopark)
◦ "Elektroluch" – electrical engineering-production moved to 2006, converted into a business center
◦ "Dynamo" - electrical engineering-closed in 2008, demolished, built a business center
◦ "Chromatron" - electronics-closed in 1995, in the building of a shopping center
◦ " SAM " - electronics-closed in 2010, demolished, built LCD
◦ Moscow Radio Engineering Plant-Oboronka-recently closed, partially built up with a business center
◦ "Micromachine" - household appliances-worked until 2019, demolished, under construction LCD
◦ "Gazstroymash" - mechanical engineering-closed in 2007, built residential complex
◦ 149th Mechanical Plant-gantry cranes, overhead cranes-production closed in the 2010s, premises for rent
◦ GPP-1-bearings-closed in the 2010s, in the market building
◦ GPZ-2-bearings-production moved to Tver in 2016, rented for offices
◦ "Borets" - compressors-closed in 2008, partially demolished in 2020, LCD built
◦ "Samochocki", "stankolit" – machines – closed, on-site market and a business center
◦ "Compressor" - refrigerating machines-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices
◦ Karacharovsky Mechanical Plant-elevators-is currently going bankrupt for development
◦ "Rhythm" - hearing aids-production moved to the 2010s, rented for offices
◦ Moscow Car Repair Plant-closed in 2012, partially demolished, electric metro depot built
◦ Moscow Trolleybus Plant-closed in 2013, used as a rembaza (trolleybus traffic in Moscow closed in 2020)
◦ NPO " Vzlet – - flight test center-demolished in 2019, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Rubin" - TV sets-closed in 2003, rented for offices and market, planned demolition
◦ Kuskovsky Chemical Plant-closed in the 2000s, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ Moscow Crystal Factory-closed in 2000, converted into a shopping and office center
◦ "Sacco and Vanzetti" - pencils, pens-closed in 2003, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ Derbenevsky Chemical Plant-closed in 2003, rented for offices
◦ Moscow oil and oil plant-closed (?), planned to be built up with housing and offices
◦ Moscow Gas Plant-closed in 2002, converted into a business center
◦ House-building plant No. 3-production was moved, demolished in 2017, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ The cost – brick – built LCD
◦ Butovsky combine-brick, foam-will probably be demolished
◦ Moscow Mirror Factory-demolished in 2017, built-up residential complex
◦ Moscow Pipe-harvesting Plant-demolished in 2020, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Fili krovlya" - production was moved to 2017, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ "Moscow silk" - textile-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices
◦ Silk Factory named after him. Shcherbakova – closed in the 1990s, converted into a business center
◦ "Red Rose" - textile-closed in the late 1990s, converted into a business center
◦ Tushinskaya hosiery factory-closed in the late 1990s, offices and warehouses on the territory
◦ Moscow cotton fabric factory-closed in 2008, converted into offices
◦ Danilovskaya manufactory-textiles-converted into offices and lofts
◦ "Technical upgrade" – textile – closed in 2012, the rent for housing and offices
◦ Moscow fine-cloth factory-textiles-went bankrupt in 2011, illegally built up with housing
◦ Worsted factory "October" - wool-demolished, built up in 2019
◦ Artificial leather plant, the production was transferred in 2003 and converted into a business centre
◦ Moscow tulle–curtain factory is torn down, built up an elite residential complex
◦ "Red hero" - rubber shoes-closed in the 2000s, a microdistrict is being built
◦ "Red October" - confectionery factory-in 2007, the production was moved, converted into a trade and exhibition center
◦ "Bolshevik" - confectionery factory-in 2012, production was moved, converted into offices and housing
◦ Krasnopresnensky sugar refinery - closed in 2005, demolished, built residential complex
◦ The Moscow fat plant-mustard, mayonnaise-is working, it is planned to be demolished by 2022
◦ Mosvinkombinat-closed in 2001, converted into an exhibition center
◦ MMVZ-wine, cognac-closed, industrial zone subject to redevelopment by 2022
◦ MKSHV-sparkling wines-closed in 2019, will be re-equipped
◦ "Kristall" - vodka-production moved to 2013, planned to be built up
◦ Khamovnichesky Brewery - closed in 2005, partially demolished, partially re-equipped
◦ Ostankino Dairy Plant-closed in 2020, demolished for housing construction
◦ Plant melted cheese "Karat" – according to rumors, will be closed along with the Ostankino
◦ Ostankino Brewery-closed in 2009, rented for offices and warehouses
◦ Trekhgorny (Badaevsky) brewery-closed in 2006, rented for offices and clubs
◦ The Moscow plant of bread products-flour-closed in 2007, in its place was built the residential complex
◦ Bread Factories №1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 14, 16, 17, 23, 25 – closed, demolished, or converted
◦ Pravda newspaper plant-publishing house-burned down in 2006, is empty
ONE city. This is the result of the collapse of the socialist system. And now just imagine how many industries died on the territory of the USSR and Eastern Europe. How many jobs, technologies, and infrastructure have been lost.
◦ ZIL-trucks, refrigerators-closed in 2016, now demolished
◦ AZLK-Moskvich cars-closed in 2010, production is partially preserved at Renault, in technopolis "Moscow"
◦ "Sickle and Hammer" - metallurgy-closed in 2011, demolition ends, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Proletarian labor" - hardware, boilers-demolished in 2000, built a residential building
◦ "FILIT" - pipes-closed in the 2000s, planned demolition
◦ Tushinsky Machine-Building Plant-aerospace industry-went bankrupt in 2015, burned down in the same year, it is planned to build up the residential complex
◦ MiG-planes-production in Moscow was stopped in the 2010s, demolition and housing development are planned
◦ Khrunichev Plant-rockets-production is being postponed, it is planned to build a National space Center, offices and housing
◦ Stankoagregat-mechanical engineering-bankrupt in 2018, planned demolition
◦ Machine-tool plant named after him. Ordzhonikidze-production stopped in the 1990s, in 2007 it was converted into a shopping center
◦ Mosselmash-mechanical engineering-partially leased, planned demolition
◦ Vladykinsky Mechanical Plant-demolished ~2016, residential complex is being built up
◦ MSiSZ-ship repair plant-it is planned to move, to build a residential complex in its place by 2022
◦ "Fraser" - cutting tools-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices and warehouses
◦ "Manometer" - instrument engineering-moved to Engels-19, in 2008 a creative cluster was opened in its place
◦ "Red Way" - mechanical plant-closed in 2010, premises for rent
◦ "Severyanin" - mechanical plant-closed in the 2010s, demolished, residential complex under construction
◦ Second Watch Factory ("Slava") - production moved to other factories, demolished in 2011, a multifunctional complex is being built on the site of the factory
◦ "Caliber" – instrumentation – closed in the 2010s, partially demolished under the LCD, partially for rent (as Technopark)
◦ "Elektroluch" – electrical engineering-production moved to 2006, converted into a business center
◦ "Dynamo" - electrical engineering-closed in 2008, demolished, built a business center
◦ "Chromatron" - electronics-closed in 1995, in the building of a shopping center
◦ " SAM " - electronics-closed in 2010, demolished, built LCD
◦ Moscow Radio Engineering Plant-Oboronka-recently closed, partially built up with a business center
◦ "Micromachine" - household appliances-worked until 2019, demolished, under construction LCD
◦ "Gazstroymash" - mechanical engineering-closed in 2007, built residential complex
◦ 149th Mechanical Plant-gantry cranes, overhead cranes-production closed in the 2010s, premises for rent
◦ GPP-1-bearings-closed in the 2010s, in the market building
◦ GPZ-2-bearings-production moved to Tver in 2016, rented for offices
◦ "Borets" - compressors-closed in 2008, partially demolished in 2020, LCD built
◦ "Samochocki", "stankolit" – machines – closed, on-site market and a business center
◦ "Compressor" - refrigerating machines-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices
◦ Karacharovsky Mechanical Plant-elevators-is currently going bankrupt for development
◦ "Rhythm" - hearing aids-production moved to the 2010s, rented for offices
◦ Moscow Car Repair Plant-closed in 2012, partially demolished, electric metro depot built
◦ Moscow Trolleybus Plant-closed in 2013, used as a rembaza (trolleybus traffic in Moscow closed in 2020)
◦ NPO " Vzlet – - flight test center-demolished in 2019, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Rubin" - TV sets-closed in 2003, rented for offices and market, planned demolition
◦ Kuskovsky Chemical Plant-closed in the 2000s, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ Moscow Crystal Factory-closed in 2000, converted into a shopping and office center
◦ "Sacco and Vanzetti" - pencils, pens-closed in 2003, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ Derbenevsky Chemical Plant-closed in 2003, rented for offices
◦ Moscow oil and oil plant-closed (?), planned to be built up with housing and offices
◦ Moscow Gas Plant-closed in 2002, converted into a business center
◦ House-building plant No. 3-production was moved, demolished in 2017, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ The cost – brick – built LCD
◦ Butovsky combine-brick, foam-will probably be demolished
◦ Moscow Mirror Factory-demolished in 2017, built-up residential complex
◦ Moscow Pipe-harvesting Plant-demolished in 2020, residential complex is being built up
◦ "Fili krovlya" - production was moved to 2017, demolished, and a residential complex was built in its place
◦ "Moscow silk" - textile-closed in the 2000s, rented for offices
◦ Silk Factory named after him. Shcherbakova – closed in the 1990s, converted into a business center
◦ "Red Rose" - textile-closed in the late 1990s, converted into a business center
◦ Tushinskaya hosiery factory-closed in the late 1990s, offices and warehouses on the territory
◦ Moscow cotton fabric factory-closed in 2008, converted into offices
◦ Danilovskaya manufactory-textiles-converted into offices and lofts
◦ "Technical upgrade" – textile – closed in 2012, the rent for housing and offices
◦ Moscow fine-cloth factory-textiles-went bankrupt in 2011, illegally built up with housing
◦ Worsted factory "October" - wool-demolished, built up in 2019
◦ Artificial leather plant, the production was transferred in 2003 and converted into a business centre
◦ Moscow tulle–curtain factory is torn down, built up an elite residential complex
◦ "Red hero" - rubber shoes-closed in the 2000s, a microdistrict is being built
◦ "Red October" - confectionery factory-in 2007, the production was moved, converted into a trade and exhibition center
◦ "Bolshevik" - confectionery factory-in 2012, production was moved, converted into offices and housing
◦ Krasnopresnensky sugar refinery - closed in 2005, demolished, built residential complex
◦ The Moscow fat plant-mustard, mayonnaise-is working, it is planned to be demolished by 2022
◦ Mosvinkombinat-closed in 2001, converted into an exhibition center
◦ MMVZ-wine, cognac-closed, industrial zone subject to redevelopment by 2022
◦ MKSHV-sparkling wines-closed in 2019, will be re-equipped
◦ "Kristall" - vodka-production moved to 2013, planned to be built up
◦ Khamovnichesky Brewery - closed in 2005, partially demolished, partially re-equipped
◦ Ostankino Dairy Plant-closed in 2020, demolished for housing construction
◦ Plant melted cheese "Karat" – according to rumors, will be closed along with the Ostankino
◦ Ostankino Brewery-closed in 2009, rented for offices and warehouses
◦ Trekhgorny (Badaevsky) brewery-closed in 2006, rented for offices and clubs
◦ The Moscow plant of bread products-flour-closed in 2007, in its place was built the residential complex
◦ Bread Factories №1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 14, 16, 17, 23, 25 – closed, demolished, or converted
◦ Pravda newspaper plant-publishing house-burned down in 2006, is empty
ONE city. This is the result of the collapse of the socialist system. And now just imagine how many industries died on the territory of the USSR and Eastern Europe. How many jobs, technologies, and infrastructure have been lost.
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JohninMK- Posts : 15646
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- Post n°79
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
British War Office 1937. Amazing work.
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Re: Interesting maps and infographics
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Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Hi res at the link
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- Post n°83
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Anybody here aged at or over 35?.
Remember how we looked for "infographics" back then?.
Spending hours in an library, going trough the racks upon racks of books about millitary topics?.
i did, i was barely 14 at the time looking for information.
No internet, no on-demand acces....simpler times.
Books i liked then are being lost to time. I find it a real shame as they had great information neatly sorted out and compacted into book-form.
So at times i try to dig up the "old" millitary information of back then from wherever i can. Buy them second hand, search the bottom of the internet, etcetera.
For anyone interrested, take a look at what i have reconstructed so far.
6 PDF documents to scratch that infographic itch:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fU1IiAZDtpP2FDZN3Gfg3oG8K9tRedpH?usp=sharing
They are.....downloadable
! Keep in mind, i made them to be viewed in an two-page view in PDF!. They where books !
Some Teasers here:
The resolution here is way lower as those in the PDF files because of the forum settings. Text is readable in the PDF themselves.
Remember how we looked for "infographics" back then?.
Spending hours in an library, going trough the racks upon racks of books about millitary topics?.
i did, i was barely 14 at the time looking for information.
No internet, no on-demand acces....simpler times.
Books i liked then are being lost to time. I find it a real shame as they had great information neatly sorted out and compacted into book-form.
So at times i try to dig up the "old" millitary information of back then from wherever i can. Buy them second hand, search the bottom of the internet, etcetera.
For anyone interrested, take a look at what i have reconstructed so far.
6 PDF documents to scratch that infographic itch:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fU1IiAZDtpP2FDZN3Gfg3oG8K9tRedpH?usp=sharing
They are.....downloadable
! Keep in mind, i made them to be viewed in an two-page view in PDF!. They where books !
Some Teasers here:
The resolution here is way lower as those in the PDF files because of the forum settings. Text is readable in the PDF themselves.
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- Post n°84
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
I am doing some restructuring and reorganising of my files.
I intend to roll out more millitary refference books in the near future.
Also many thanks to an anonymous member on here that messaged me where to find another legacy book database.
I managed to grab here some higher resolution files of books i had.
you know who you are! .
the following books below are available on this drive link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1R6ys4jpswj1QtDE0g4_upEWX7w1-MHyb?usp=sharing
These series explain tactics, weapon systems and the technologies behind it:
I intend to roll out more millitary refference books in the near future.
Also many thanks to an anonymous member on here that messaged me where to find another legacy book database.
I managed to grab here some higher resolution files of books i had.
you know who you are! .
the following books below are available on this drive link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1R6ys4jpswj1QtDE0g4_upEWX7w1-MHyb?usp=sharing
These series explain tactics, weapon systems and the technologies behind it:
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- Post n°85
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Definitely a thought. Have a lifetime of military stuff that I have been starting to move out.
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- Post n°86
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
An new contribution:
an massive 550-page encyclopedia about various weapon systems.
available at this link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Xip0DsqxwwnHN00Z9-q4dowFMgRCVQPO?usp=sharing
an massive 550-page encyclopedia about various weapon systems.
available at this link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Xip0DsqxwwnHN00Z9-q4dowFMgRCVQPO?usp=sharing
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GarryB- Posts : 40541
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- Post n°87
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
Many of these books are actually parts of magazines I remember from the 1980s... different series about aircraft or military machines or combat and survival or Soldier of Fortune.
They used to have small encyclopaedia books on subjects too with those sorts of entries... sadly they often repeated over and over stuff that was later proved to be wrong.
For instance there were books on small arms and some of the early ones mentioned the Stechkin machine pistol as being heavy and awkward and not widely used, but it is lighter than a 45 calibre US pistol and having 20 shots instead of 7 makes a real difference... but they never updated the information on it even into the late 1980s when we actually knew better.
A later issue of Combat and Survival actually showed a British guy testing the Stechkin and he loved it.
There was a Soviet encyclopaedia that combined all the Soviet weapons and equipment and systems from all the aircraft and tank and firearm and air defence and other books into one volume that was my favourite, but like the other books they never updated it... so even into the 1990s it only mentioned the mysterious AT-6 missile carried by Hinds, and no mention of RPO-A rockets or AT-7 or AT-13 ATGMs, or Kornets etc etc... they were just stuck with Konkurs and Fagots.
Their T-64s and T-80s were failures because they ate loaders arms and because not many were made.... hahaha... and there were hints of new aircraft like MiG-29s and Su-27s after decades of MiG-21s and Su-7s and Su-11s...
It is as interesting to see what they didn't know as what they did...
They used to have small encyclopaedia books on subjects too with those sorts of entries... sadly they often repeated over and over stuff that was later proved to be wrong.
For instance there were books on small arms and some of the early ones mentioned the Stechkin machine pistol as being heavy and awkward and not widely used, but it is lighter than a 45 calibre US pistol and having 20 shots instead of 7 makes a real difference... but they never updated the information on it even into the late 1980s when we actually knew better.
A later issue of Combat and Survival actually showed a British guy testing the Stechkin and he loved it.
There was a Soviet encyclopaedia that combined all the Soviet weapons and equipment and systems from all the aircraft and tank and firearm and air defence and other books into one volume that was my favourite, but like the other books they never updated it... so even into the 1990s it only mentioned the mysterious AT-6 missile carried by Hinds, and no mention of RPO-A rockets or AT-7 or AT-13 ATGMs, or Kornets etc etc... they were just stuck with Konkurs and Fagots.
Their T-64s and T-80s were failures because they ate loaders arms and because not many were made.... hahaha... and there were hints of new aircraft like MiG-29s and Su-27s after decades of MiG-21s and Su-7s and Su-11s...
It is as interesting to see what they didn't know as what they did...
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- Post n°88
Re: Interesting maps and infographics
It was not only the magazines keeping up that propaganda. NATO millitaries had always the same ignorance.
During one briefing the intelligence guy mentioned there was an ZSU-23-4 AA gun near KAF airfield, ....and that was it.
end of information.
Nobody in my platoon knew what it was. So the briefing moved on on our own convoy from KAF to our FOB in the neighbouring Uruzgan province.
I asked if it was an actual motorized functional unit or some cobbled up together piece of crap?.
He looked at his papers and said an "self propelled unit".
I said that might become a problem if we where unlucky enough to encounter it in the main valley we had to pass trough.
That they are capable of unleasing direct ground fire with 4 barrels of 23 millimetre automatic fire against our lightly armoured convoy.
An sargeant asked how he should picture this thing in action.
I said: "pretty much an A-10's gun on tracks regarding the Lead that flies your way".
An discussion followed after that but...
Why am i the only one in the room that takes soviet equipment seriously?.
I was an soldier 2nd class at the time, they shipped me 2 months after bootcamp straight into Afghanistan.
I cant lay the blame with the guys alone either,
The Millitary's idea of "material recognition" lessons are looking at some dated pictures and pick one of three multiple-choice answers.
You see an BMP-1.
A.T-72
B. BMP-1
C.BRDM-2
If you just would leave this multipe question idea alone. And give an actual presentation about what an BMP-1 is capable off and show some infographics i gaurantee you that gives an longer lasting impression than what they do now.
Like it various features and characteristics.
In the west and nato the standard response to russian/soviet equipment is immidiatly is "its russian crap".
No serious look is given to it, and no discussion is possible about it.
There is no reason to NOT overhaul the whole training of troops in this day and age.
Buy some of the old equipment, renovate them and put them on an training base.
Take your troops there and let them have a look at them.
I mean, there ARE companies in europe that do this:
https://mortarinvestments.eu/
I still have an BMP-1 and an T-72 on my christmas list. .
I dont think the neighbours will appreciate me putting an Tank on the driveway tough.
The thing i REALLY want is an intact, functional yet demilitarized MI-24.
If i ever stumble over a few gold-bars, i will go make that happen.
I saw a year ago fly over my country, it had an czech camo pattern.
Its just seeing this great-white shark flying. Like it is an unstoppable lawn-mower against infantry.
I love the sound of it's engines and rotor blades.
Also the engines trail an very faint exhaust behind the chopper you do not see with NATO choppers.
As it was the late afternoon with an setting sun you saw the trails clearly.
I played in the past this naval fleet simulation as a kid.
The soviet fleet fired hypersonic missiles at my fleet.
I actually tought it was just the difficulty setting that these missiles where so rediculously fast and mine just flew at subsonic speeds.
After looking it up it indeed said these missiles where this fast. My first tought was "why do we not have this?".
It is what it is, I guess we are an very small minority that is willing to take an serious look at what the other guys are designing and building.
During one briefing the intelligence guy mentioned there was an ZSU-23-4 AA gun near KAF airfield, ....and that was it.
end of information.
Nobody in my platoon knew what it was. So the briefing moved on on our own convoy from KAF to our FOB in the neighbouring Uruzgan province.
I asked if it was an actual motorized functional unit or some cobbled up together piece of crap?.
He looked at his papers and said an "self propelled unit".
I said that might become a problem if we where unlucky enough to encounter it in the main valley we had to pass trough.
That they are capable of unleasing direct ground fire with 4 barrels of 23 millimetre automatic fire against our lightly armoured convoy.
An sargeant asked how he should picture this thing in action.
I said: "pretty much an A-10's gun on tracks regarding the Lead that flies your way".
An discussion followed after that but...
Why am i the only one in the room that takes soviet equipment seriously?.
I was an soldier 2nd class at the time, they shipped me 2 months after bootcamp straight into Afghanistan.
I cant lay the blame with the guys alone either,
The Millitary's idea of "material recognition" lessons are looking at some dated pictures and pick one of three multiple-choice answers.
You see an BMP-1.
A.T-72
B. BMP-1
C.BRDM-2
If you just would leave this multipe question idea alone. And give an actual presentation about what an BMP-1 is capable off and show some infographics i gaurantee you that gives an longer lasting impression than what they do now.
Like it various features and characteristics.
In the west and nato the standard response to russian/soviet equipment is immidiatly is "its russian crap".
No serious look is given to it, and no discussion is possible about it.
There is no reason to NOT overhaul the whole training of troops in this day and age.
Buy some of the old equipment, renovate them and put them on an training base.
Take your troops there and let them have a look at them.
I mean, there ARE companies in europe that do this:
https://mortarinvestments.eu/
I still have an BMP-1 and an T-72 on my christmas list. .
I dont think the neighbours will appreciate me putting an Tank on the driveway tough.
The thing i REALLY want is an intact, functional yet demilitarized MI-24.
If i ever stumble over a few gold-bars, i will go make that happen.
I saw a year ago fly over my country, it had an czech camo pattern.
Its just seeing this great-white shark flying. Like it is an unstoppable lawn-mower against infantry.
I love the sound of it's engines and rotor blades.
Also the engines trail an very faint exhaust behind the chopper you do not see with NATO choppers.
As it was the late afternoon with an setting sun you saw the trails clearly.
I played in the past this naval fleet simulation as a kid.
The soviet fleet fired hypersonic missiles at my fleet.
I actually tought it was just the difficulty setting that these missiles where so rediculously fast and mine just flew at subsonic speeds.
After looking it up it indeed said these missiles where this fast. My first tought was "why do we not have this?".
It is what it is, I guess we are an very small minority that is willing to take an serious look at what the other guys are designing and building.
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Airbornewolf wrote:I am doing some restructuring and reorganising of my files.
I intend to roll out more millitary refference books in the near future.
Also many thanks to an anonymous member on here that messaged me where to find another legacy book database.
I managed to grab here some higher resolution files of books i had.
you know who you are! .
the following books below are available on this drive link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1R6ys4jpswj1QtDE0g4_upEWX7w1-MHyb?usp=sharing
These series explain tactics, weapon systems and the technologies behind it:
I own all those books. In German.
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If you just would leave this multipe question idea alone. And give an actual presentation about what an BMP-1 is capable off and show some infographics i gaurantee you that gives an longer lasting impression than what they do now.
Makes you wonder what they thought they were training them for... is the best trained man the one with the most cookies?
Or the one that recognises enemy equipment and the threat it presents and some idea of how to deal with it.
Movies don't help either... in Rambo when you see a Soviet Armoured division heading your way with Shilka... you charge it on horseback of course...
It is what it is, I guess we are an very small minority that is willing to take an serious look at what the other guys are designing and building.
My friends didn't really understand why I was so good at games like Gunship 2000 but the secret was when it said the target was an SA-9 I know it was an IR guided missile so I knew what countermeasures to use and what a safe range was...
It is not just your military or HATO, but even in the New Zealand armed forces most seem to not know much about opforces stuff... it is quite scary.
And of course anything they have that is any good is a copy of a western system... if they took a few hours and read a bit about the Soviet system there is enormous competition and when it suits them they have no problem copying western gear because for them it survival.... it is not a game.
The reverse is not true... you wont see any western expert suggest the F-15 is a copy of a MiG-25.... because that is the platform it was urgently developed to tackle... just like the layout of the early model Bradleys were a copy of the BMP-1, but that when the BMP-2 was revealed the design was changed to match that so really the Bradley is a BMPski.
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Old but interesting from https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2014/02/connected-world/
More detail kept up to date at https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
More detail kept up to date at https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
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Viking raids, trade, exploration and influence once spanned much of the Northern Hemisphere https://redd.it/8qnwbx #MapPorn
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Viking raids, trade, exploration and influence once spanned much of the Northern Hemisphere https://redd.it/8qnwbx #MapPorn
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Another of my Wow, just Wow posts
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A female GPS-tracked falcon flew from South Africa to Finland. In 42 days she flew over 10,000 km. That's 230 km per day. What have you achieved in the last 42 days? Source: https://buff.ly/3ArE2eq
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A female GPS-tracked falcon flew from South Africa to Finland. In 42 days she flew over 10,000 km. That's 230 km per day. What have you achieved in the last 42 days? Source: https://buff.ly/3ArE2eq
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Its interesting that while flying over the middle east it tried to hug the coastline as much as possible. Must be fishing for food along the way.JohninMK wrote:Another of my Wow, just Wow posts
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A female GPS-tracked falcon flew from South Africa to Finland. In 42 days she flew over 10,000 km. That's 230 km per day. What have you achieved in the last 42 days? Source: https://buff.ly/3ArE2eq
It even followed the Nile:
Clever girl.
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Real-time infographic's and events as an Chicxulub-like impactor would strike the Earth Today.
Its an live-stream ongoing at the moment, I of course suggest you watch it from the start.
Its an live-stream ongoing at the moment, I of course suggest you watch it from the start.
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https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/All-the-Metals-We-Mined.jpg?itok=p_sZE15B
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This is for Garry
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The Māori descend from Polynesians whose ancestors emigrated from Taiwan to Melanesia between 3000-1000 BCE, then travelled east, reaching the Society Islands 1000 CE. After a pause of 200-300 years they discovered and settled New Zealand. https://buff.ly/3Aa7mXj
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The Māori descend from Polynesians whose ancestors emigrated from Taiwan to Melanesia between 3000-1000 BCE, then travelled east, reaching the Society Islands 1000 CE. After a pause of 200-300 years they discovered and settled New Zealand. https://buff.ly/3Aa7mXj
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This is a strange one
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Legality of wild camping across Europe. The creator of the map chose a terribly confusing colour scheme but the data is interesting. Source: https://buff.ly/3E2tUeA
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Legality of wild camping across Europe. The creator of the map chose a terribly confusing colour scheme but the data is interesting. Source: https://buff.ly/3E2tUeA
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Note the fraction of wind and solar in US power generation and put it in context when Biden yaps about green alt energy.
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