To stop any funding of this project as this is simply an eye wash .
Why would the Russian people want to stop any funding or purchases of the Mig-35?
It is not some bloated over priced waste of money aircraft like the F-35. It actually looks like a very useful aircraft.
The Russian AF has withdrawn its single engine fighters and fighter bombers, which included Su-17, Su-7, Mig-21/-23/-27, many of which were designed for ground attack or the swing role of fighter and ground attack, and it has not introduced an aircraft to fill that enormous gap. Multirole fighters to replace Mig-29s and Su-27s makes a lot of sense, with Su-35s and Mig-35s being the most capable non stealth aircraft, while the Su-30 and Su-27SM and Mig-29SMT offer much cheaper "numbers" airframes based on aircraft already in service to keep numbers up while stealth aircraft are developed and unmanned aircraft can be built and mature and fill their niche. Without the Su-35, Mig-35, Su-30, Su-27SM and Mig-29SMT there would be an enormous aircraft gap.
When they have not yet decided between the Mig 29M2 & Mig 35 why is the Russian Defense Ministry funding both these projects . Mig 35 is Mig 29M2 . The export version was named Mig 35 .
The Mig-29M2 is the budget Mig-35... without the DAS and AESA and 360 degree electrooptics, and the 5 weapon pylon wing etc etc. The Mig-35 is a serious step up from the mig-29M2 though they both use the same air frame, the Mig-35 is the deluxe model with all the extras... extras that cost money, but also make the aircraft more useful... and give it future growth potential if you want to buy the budget model now.
Either aircraft would be very useful.
More a question of purpose . Can you list the tasks which only the Mig 35 can perform . Fact is the SU 35 and SU 30SM meets and even exceeds all that a MIG 35 can perform .
It is a question of numbers and production capacity. You could easily say that the Tu-160 as a bomber can do everything the Su-34 can do, so why bother with Su-34s when the Tu-160 can do everything it can and more, over longer ranges with much heavier payloads.
The fact is that bigger aircraft cost more to buy and to operate and the production facilities for the Flankers will be working on exports.
In fact Sukhoi will have its hands full with the PAK FA, the Superjet, Su-30 exports, domestic Su-30 production, Su-35 domestic and exports production. They are also working on UAVs and UCAVs, and they are upgrading the Su-25 and creating a new replacement CAS aircraft too. In comparison Mig is making a few Mig-29Ms for export, a few Mig-29Ks for domestic use and export, and is upgrading a few Mig-29s. It is also perhaps looking at upgraded Mig-31 production, and perhaps a Mig-31 replacement too, but its production factories should be available to make a batch of 48-96 Mig-35s for the Russian AF.
BTW what can a Mig-35 do that a Flanker can't? Have the first operational AESA radar in a fighter aircraft?
To be more precise the Mig 35 was the result of the competition in India . No one heard about this name before this competition .
The next Mig was always going to be called Mig-35 as the Mig-33 is the Mig-29K.
You mean the MIG 35 was tested before the Indian competition . There is no such records.
Not before... during. Mig sent a Mig-35 for tests with an AESA radar. The Indians were miffed that Mig did not send a Mig-35 to AeroIndia in 2012 so they must have had one then... to "not" send it.
Then why this unwanted marriage ? To produce more inconvenience ?
Each design bureau was a complete entity... it would be stupid to break those up and hoped they could be combined into something that would work. The concept is to keep the bureaus intact, so they work as functional units, but as parts of a bigger machine they can still compete for contracts, and the winner can use some of the expertise of the losers to do a better job... it retains competition, but also protects the companies from "defeat". One company can keep the rest going and fund the others. One company is not going to win all the competitions and get all the export work so they all contribute to the greater company.
it is like a farmer... put in some fruit trees, plant some pine trees, don't just have some sheep for wool, sell the meat and the wool, etc etc so there is money coming in from different productive areas, so if there is a problem in one area... wool prices are low, then you sell more fruit, or butcher a few sheep and sell the meat to make up the difference.
Hundreds of experienced Russian Aerospace & Defense professionals have given up their jobs with Sukhoi & MIG to work for Boeing and Airbus in Russia alone. The opposite is not true.
As things improve in Russia then the reverse trend is actually more likely than you might think.
Lots of money is nice, but western culture is different from Russian culture and over time you forget the bad stuff and remember the good stuff... pretty soon you miss speaking in Russian, or you get sick of the dumb anti russian TV in the west...
Things in west are not that great now either, and with the Russian government investing in various areas the potential for Russians to go home and get a good job are increasing.
Nothing to write home about when compared to the sales that Sukhoi generates.
Of course Mig is under performing... when you stop working with a race horse and just leave it in a field with nothing to do of course it will lose condition. The question you have to ask yourself is... do you leave it there to rot and keep demanding that overworked race horse you have running round the track to do everything, or do you spread the load and start giving work to Mig.
The choice is not ours, but the results will either be better use of resources and a new Mig in service, or less choice the next time you need a new plane because Mig has become a tiny department that mainly services and gives minor upgrades to aircraft in service.
Diddly Squat . MIG is not being considered for any future projects related to manned aircrafts.
Do you have that in writing?
Currently they need a replacement for the Mig-31, and the PAK FA would be far too expensive for such a role and would lack the weapon capacity to do the job the Mig-31 does now let alone improve upon it. The Su-35 can't fly continuously at mach 2.4 with a full weapon load to a radius of 1,400km.
In my opinion the best aircraft for the job would be the Tu-22M3 with a few serious modifications like being adapted to carry AAMs over its belly and in its internal rotary weapon launcher, and of course an enormous nose mounted AESA radar and IRST.
I hope you hear this , Mig 35 is Mig 29M2.
No it isn't, and yes it is. A Mig-29M2 is the basis for the Mig-35... the same as an Su-27SM is not a Su-35.
Don't bother about Putin . He has stolen enough for his next 10 lifetimes.
Putin has been the best thing to happen to Russia in a very long time. Claims and innuendo that he has stolen money remain just that... unsubstantiated claims and innuendo.
How long does it take for the Russian military to decide ? Can't they see that we are in the middle of 2013 ?
Who said they haven't decided? The Mig-35 contains a lot of very advanced equipment... I doubt it is all ready now anyway... the delay in the order might be by mutual arrangement because Mig was probably not ready to serial produce it before 2014-2015 anyway.
It is the same situation with Mil, where the Russian Army buys the Mi-28N, but has to wait till about 2015 for the Mi-28M or NM.
It's the other way round . M2 is Mig 35 . Mig 35 is basically the marketing name . Sukhoi does that with the SU 27 series and now Mig is doing the same . It's not a new aircraft . It's a Mig 29M2 + . End of story.
The Mig-29M2 is a new family with a new airframe structure... the Mig-29K2 is based on it, as is the basic Mig-29M2, and the advanced Mig-35S. Just the same as in the 1980s the Mig-29M was a new build aircraft that the original Mig-29K was based upon too. The original Mig-29 had a separate structure, with an outer skin. The fuel tanks were separate tanks placed inside the structure under the skin.
The Mig-29M used wielded outer skin panels so separate internal fuel tanks were no longer necessary... the separate sections were sealed off and could be used for fuel or components without extra layers needed, so it was much lighter structurally. The new Mig-29M2s are further developments of the Mig-29M, with the new airframe shape that was standard between the single and twin seater.
The original Mig-29 had a single seat configuration. The two seat model lost its radar and some fuel to become a two seat, while the new aircraft has room for two seats in both single seat and twin seat versions... the second seat in the single seat model has extra electronics and fuel where the second seat would go, but structurally both single and double seat aircraft airframes are the same... including the long canopy.
The new Mig-35 has the same new airframe and can be a single or twin seat.
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I don't know the number of two seaters. (except that figure at warfare.be of 50, which may or may not be even remotely correct)
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