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The Situation in the Ukraine. #16
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Finally pushing back?
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F*ck US imperialism
On RT;
F*ck US imperialism
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Flagship Victory wrote:Military Live wrote:Small-reactive ohnemet MRO-A "Shmel", 2008 issue.
Which side is this?[/quote]
Balaclavas, I think kiev.
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gregoire wrote:Balaclavas, I think kiev.
How much arms did Ukraine buy from Russia prior to Maidan?
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Flagship Victory wrote:Putin's childhood friend, now living in Golorvka, says Russia is traitor.
He may be president Putin's childhood playground friend but, how sad this may seem, he's not a politician nor in is he in his inner circle. Other rules and laws are at play and although his life may mean everything to him, he is just one person in a very sad situation.
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gregoire wrote:Flagship Victory wrote:Putin's childhood friend, now living in Golorvka, says Russia is traitor.
He may be president Putin's childhood playground friend but, how sad this may seem, he's not a politician nor in is he in his inner circle. Other rules and laws are at play and although his life may mean everything to him, he is just one person in a very sad situation.
Perhaps. But the next time he see Putin he'll probably shoot Putin in the head for not sending peacekeepers last year to prevent more than 6,500 deaths already. With power comes responsibility. That's why it's difficult being a leader. See how so many American presidents got assassinated.
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Flagship Victory wrote:gregoire wrote:Balaclavas, I think kiev.
How much arms did Ukraine buy from Russia prior to Maidan?
Sorry, can't help you there. Then which is he on according to you?
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Flagship Victory wrote:gregoire wrote:Flagship Victory wrote:Putin's childhood friend, now living in Golorvka, says Russia is traitor.
He may be president Putin's childhood playground friend but, how sad this may seem, he's not a politician nor in is he in his inner circle. Other rules and laws are at play and although his life may mean everything to him, he is just one person in a very sad situation.
Perhaps. But the next time he see Putin he'll probably shoot Putin in the head for not sending peacekeepers last year to prevent more than 6,500 deaths already.
There are a lot more video's of exactly the opposite.
And I think a lot more are looking to spitroast porky.
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gregoire wrote:There are a lot more video's of exactly the opposite. And I think a lot more are looking to spitroast porky.
Perhaps. But Putin cannot sleep well knowing he is partly responsible for so many deaths in Donbas because he refused to send peacekeepers as requested by Donbas which would have prevented deaths in Donbas. With power comes responsibility. It was in Putin's power to stop Maidan.
I found out today that it was Putin who whisked Yanukovych to Russia. Had Putin not done that, Maidan likely would not have succeeded. I think if the people of Donbas find out the truth, many people of Donbas would try to put a bullet in Putin's head for causing so much pain and suffering in Donbas.
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If the OSCE was entirely Russian it would never be allowed to enter the soil of any Western country and widely ridiculed by the Western media.gregoire wrote:Just try to imagine if the OSCE was entirely "russian". The western press would top even what they are doing now. The OSCE also has russian observers. They are in Russia's backyard. Russia controls the information flow be there spies or not. They are irrelevant no matter what they do or say.
But Russia is not the West. Russia allows things that the West would never allow.
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gregoire wrote:Finally pushing back?
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F*ck US imperialism
Very Good !!
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RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20150623/1083032086.html wrote:DNR: the inhabitants of Donetsk shelled areas to be evacuated on Wednesday
18:37 23/06/2015
DONETSK, June 23 - RIA Novosti. The administration of Kuibyshev district of Donetsk has prepared lists of regular migrants who want to leave the constantly shelled neighborhoods, evacuation is planned for Wednesday, he told the representative of the Ministry of Labour and Social Policy breakaway Donetsk People's Republic.
"Lists of those wishing to leave the firing zone are formed, the evacuation is preparing for tomorrow. The city administration is finalizing locations for receiving people. To prepare the resettlement of residents of Kuibyshev district, in particular, is constantly shelled neighborhoods", - he said on Tuesday.
RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20150623/1082865634.html wrote:Seven cities of LPR were left without water due to damage
17:02 23/06/2015
Lugansk, June 23 - RIA Novosti. Part of Lugansk and Lugansk seven cities the self-proclaimed People's Republic were left without water due to damage to the pumping equipment on the territory controlled by the Kiev law enforcement officers, the chief engineer of the "Luganskvoda" Alex Anchishkin.
On Tuesday, the head of administration of the self-proclaimed head of the DNI Maxim Leshchenko said that the question of the possibility of repairing damaged in the fighting aquifer roads in the Donbass tabled in Minsk and progress on this issue already.
"The water supply to Stakhanov, Kirovsk, Bryanka, Pervomaisk, Irmino, Zorinsk, Artemovsk and in areas of the Lugansk closed today, June 23, due to serious damage to the pump equipment, located on the territory controlled by Ukrainian law enforcement bodies", - quotes Anchishkin Luhansk Information Center.
The problem with water supply in the LC is quite acute. Earlier, Director General of the utility "Luganskvoda" Sergei Mahurenko said that due to the termination of supply water to Kiev controlled the situation in the territory of the LC is close to critical: the republic was provided with water only at 40%, increased the threat of epidemics. Later, renewed the water supply from two water intakes, located on the territory controlled by Kiev, "the region is provided with water by an average of 50%," he said.
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Funny enough Ukrainians were complaining that OSCE is too Russian.. Ukrs love to overlook OSCE reports when they claim about their warcrimes too. Imho still useless organisationKarl Haushofer wrote:If the OSCE was entirely Russian it would never be allowed to enter the soil of any Western country and widely ridiculed by the Western media.gregoire wrote:Just try to imagine if the OSCE was entirely "russian". The western press would top even what they are doing now. The OSCE also has russian observers. They are in Russia's backyard. Russia controls the information flow be there spies or not. They are irrelevant no matter what they do or say.
But Russia is not the West. Russia allows things that the West would never allow.
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Can't believe the EU is taking a stand on this.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Granting special status to Ukraine's eastern regions of Donetsk and Lugansk is part of the ceasefire accord between Kiev and independence supporters of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, signed in February.
According to the Ukrayinska Pravda (the Ukrainian Truth) newspaper, the call was made by the the European Commissioner for Neighbourhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations, Johannes Hahn, during a meeting with Ukrainian lawmakers and President Petro Poroshenko in Kiev.
The deputy head of Ukraine's parliamentary committee on foreign affairs, Ivanna Klimpush-Tsyntsadze, confirmed this information to the paper. "The Europeans demand us to propose a strategy for the special status of Donbass. And that this status would not be limited to three years (as it is provided in the law on the special status of certain territories,) but would be acting on a permanent basis," she said. Klimpush-Tsyntsadze stated that fulfilling the "closing" points of the agreement is inappropriate without first accomplishing the most important ones.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023761216.html#ixzz3dvPWMsJZ
Meanwhile Poro says it different, first from Sputnik then tougher words on TASS.
KIEV, June 23 (Sputnik) – Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko insisted on Tuesday that the Kiev authorities will never consider federalization as part of the proposed constitutional reform. "What we will never allow to happen is the federalization," Poroshenko said at a meeting of the National Reform Council. "The issues of security, defense, law and order, external relations — the key issues that determine the country's integrity — will be under sole authority of the state," Poroshenko stressed.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023750712.html#ixzz3dvSD5Bhh
KIEV, June 23. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has ruled out the country’s federalization and threatened the leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk Republics that the Kiev authorities would prosecute them under Ukrainian legislation.
"No federalization will be permitted," he said at a meeting of the National Reform Council. "The initiators of creating any republics will be brought to justice. Should anyone try, the response will be instantaneous. No one should have the temptation to create any republics in Donetsk, Luhansk or Bessarabia," he argued. "The issues of national defence, security, public order and external relations and the issues that keep the vertical chain of command integral will be regarded as an exclusive competence of state power," he said.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Granting special status to Ukraine's eastern regions of Donetsk and Lugansk is part of the ceasefire accord between Kiev and independence supporters of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, signed in February.
According to the Ukrayinska Pravda (the Ukrainian Truth) newspaper, the call was made by the the European Commissioner for Neighbourhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations, Johannes Hahn, during a meeting with Ukrainian lawmakers and President Petro Poroshenko in Kiev.
The deputy head of Ukraine's parliamentary committee on foreign affairs, Ivanna Klimpush-Tsyntsadze, confirmed this information to the paper. "The Europeans demand us to propose a strategy for the special status of Donbass. And that this status would not be limited to three years (as it is provided in the law on the special status of certain territories,) but would be acting on a permanent basis," she said. Klimpush-Tsyntsadze stated that fulfilling the "closing" points of the agreement is inappropriate without first accomplishing the most important ones.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023761216.html#ixzz3dvPWMsJZ
Meanwhile Poro says it different, first from Sputnik then tougher words on TASS.
KIEV, June 23 (Sputnik) – Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko insisted on Tuesday that the Kiev authorities will never consider federalization as part of the proposed constitutional reform. "What we will never allow to happen is the federalization," Poroshenko said at a meeting of the National Reform Council. "The issues of security, defense, law and order, external relations — the key issues that determine the country's integrity — will be under sole authority of the state," Poroshenko stressed.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023750712.html#ixzz3dvSD5Bhh
KIEV, June 23. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has ruled out the country’s federalization and threatened the leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk Republics that the Kiev authorities would prosecute them under Ukrainian legislation.
"No federalization will be permitted," he said at a meeting of the National Reform Council. "The initiators of creating any republics will be brought to justice. Should anyone try, the response will be instantaneous. No one should have the temptation to create any republics in Donetsk, Luhansk or Bessarabia," he argued. "The issues of national defence, security, public order and external relations and the issues that keep the vertical chain of command integral will be regarded as an exclusive competence of state power," he said.
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As we all probably thought, when the politicians say one thing, the opposite may be happening. Mind you only Russian exports are mentioned.
Ukraine has continued trading with Russia to the tune of $4.85 billion in the first four months of 2015, research from World Trade Center Moscow showed.
The Ukrainian government has accused Russia of invading it, although it has yet to suspend trade or economic ties. The existing trends in bilateral trade largely follow Ukraine's own overall economic decline together with its economic blockade of the industrial Donbass region. Russia's exports of rail cars to Ukraine grew nearly seven times in the first four months of 2015, while the export of buses to the country more than doubled compared to the previous year
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023758488.html#ixzz3dvQgC0gI
Ukraine has continued trading with Russia to the tune of $4.85 billion in the first four months of 2015, research from World Trade Center Moscow showed.
The Ukrainian government has accused Russia of invading it, although it has yet to suspend trade or economic ties. The existing trends in bilateral trade largely follow Ukraine's own overall economic decline together with its economic blockade of the industrial Donbass region. Russia's exports of rail cars to Ukraine grew nearly seven times in the first four months of 2015, while the export of buses to the country more than doubled compared to the previous year
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023758488.html#ixzz3dvQgC0gI
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Military Live wrote:Small-reactive ohnemet MRO-A "Shmel", 2008 issue.
Can anyone please translate what he says?
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So much for access to the West.
As Europe continues to rescue, house and feed refugees from the Mediterranean, it has chosen to stifle the entry opportunities of its eastern neighbors. As of June 23,the EU will tighten conditions for all those Ukrainians who want to obtain a Schengen visa; this means the procedure for registering documents for a vacation or business trip in the EU will become more complicated, local media outlets said.
Those Ukrainians who wish to visit the EU's Schengen visa area will now have to appear in person at a visa center in order to provide biometric data, such as fingerprints and digital photographs. Children under 12 will be exempt from fingerprinting. Earlier, it was possible to obtain a visa "in absentia", by just handing over the necessary documents to a tour operator or agency.
It was reported that the introduction of the new regulations, stipulated by the Schengen Information System, is aimed at strengthening security measures.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023749066.html#ixzz3dvSxw900
As Europe continues to rescue, house and feed refugees from the Mediterranean, it has chosen to stifle the entry opportunities of its eastern neighbors. As of June 23,the EU will tighten conditions for all those Ukrainians who want to obtain a Schengen visa; this means the procedure for registering documents for a vacation or business trip in the EU will become more complicated, local media outlets said.
Those Ukrainians who wish to visit the EU's Schengen visa area will now have to appear in person at a visa center in order to provide biometric data, such as fingerprints and digital photographs. Children under 12 will be exempt from fingerprinting. Earlier, it was possible to obtain a visa "in absentia", by just handing over the necessary documents to a tour operator or agency.
It was reported that the introduction of the new regulations, stipulated by the Schengen Information System, is aimed at strengthening security measures.
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023749066.html#ixzz3dvSxw900
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It looks like Ukrainian ways of running petrol stations are not going to pass muster under the Russian regime.
Crimean Prosecutor General Natalia Poklonskaya said on Tuesday that a whole array of violations, including documentation problems and poor quality gasoline, have been seen at gas filling stations in Crimea.
Speaking at a Crimean government session, Poklonskaya said 33 cases to investigate administrative offenses have been opened, as well as 33 cases into legislative violations and 20 applications made to correct legal violations. "More materials are being prepared to launch administrative proceedings over poor quality gasoline, poor quality fuel… A criminal case has been opened after the prosecutor's check pertaining to illegal processing of gas condensate and production of low quality gasoline, which caused more than 1.5 million rubles in damages," Poklonskaya said.
According to her, almost every gas station in Crimea has fallen short of the required legal requirements. In particular, the violations include the sale of fuel using measurement tools that have not been tested, the lack of quality certification and information on the brands of fuel sold, as well as low quality gasoline that does not meet the standards required by Russian law.
sputniknews.com/russia/20150623/1023744366.html#ixzz3dvUq8aQq
Crimean Prosecutor General Natalia Poklonskaya said on Tuesday that a whole array of violations, including documentation problems and poor quality gasoline, have been seen at gas filling stations in Crimea.
Speaking at a Crimean government session, Poklonskaya said 33 cases to investigate administrative offenses have been opened, as well as 33 cases into legislative violations and 20 applications made to correct legal violations. "More materials are being prepared to launch administrative proceedings over poor quality gasoline, poor quality fuel… A criminal case has been opened after the prosecutor's check pertaining to illegal processing of gas condensate and production of low quality gasoline, which caused more than 1.5 million rubles in damages," Poklonskaya said.
According to her, almost every gas station in Crimea has fallen short of the required legal requirements. In particular, the violations include the sale of fuel using measurement tools that have not been tested, the lack of quality certification and information on the brands of fuel sold, as well as low quality gasoline that does not meet the standards required by Russian law.
sputniknews.com/russia/20150623/1023744366.html#ixzz3dvUq8aQq
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Samantha Power blatantly lying to Congress not just about one thing about Ukraine but about two things, and Californian senator ROHRABACHER called her on it. The scum we have in office.
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by senator
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by Californian senator ROHRABACHER
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4541393/ukrainian-crisis-discussed-senator
Samantha Power blatantly lying to Congress not just about one thing about Ukraine but about two things, and Californian senator ROHRABACHER called her on it. The scum we have in office.
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by senator
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by Californian senator ROHRABACHER
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4541393/ukrainian-crisis-discussed-senator
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Just look at the first and highest rated comment.Flagship Victory wrote:Putin's childhood friend, now living in Golorvka, says Putin is a traitor.
The same thing over and over again. I swear, russians and their belief in Putin and his government is one of the highest brainwashing project I ever witnessed. People act like he is God, he is without any faults, your not allowed to criticize him.
Nevertheless they remind me of Milosevic followers in the 90's, when he sold out the serbs in Croatia, Bosnia, in the end Russia and it's government will share the same faith it doesn't deserve more.
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Cowboy's daughter wrote:Thank you for your posts John in mk
Samantha Power blatantly lying to Congress not just about one thing about Ukraine but about two things, and Californian senator ROHRABACHER called her on it. The scum we have in office.
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by senator
Ukrainian Crisis Discussed by Californian senator ROHRABACHER
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4541393/ukrainian-crisis-discussed-senator
wow, didn't expect that. Thanks for sharing.
can anyone fill me in on what exactly is this hearing and how important is it? I'm not too familiar with the structure of the US gov. beyond what I saw on House of Cards...
btw, CD, are you by any chance a listener of Dan Carlin's Podcast? I think you might like his way of approaching this (and probably many other subjects).
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JohninMK wrote:As we all probably thought, when the politicians say one thing, the opposite may be happening. Mind you only Russian exports are mentioned.
Ukraine has continued trading with Russia to the tune of $4.85 billion in the first four months of 2015, research from World Trade Center Moscow showed.
The Ukrainian government has accused Russia of invading it, although it has yet to suspend trade or economic ties. The existing trends in bilateral trade largely follow Ukraine's own overall economic decline together with its economic blockade of the industrial Donbass region. Russia's exports of rail cars to Ukraine grew nearly seven times in the first four months of 2015, while the export of buses to the country more than doubled compared to the previous year
sputniknews.com/europe/20150623/1023758488.html#ixzz3dvQgC0gI
What sort of trade? Is Ukraine buying arms from Russia? Considering Maidan is shelling Donetsk day and night, surely Maidan would need to resupply their ammo from somewhere. Maidan has Russian arms manufactured in 2008
Russia has diplomatic ties with Maidan, not with NAF. That alone speaks which side Russia is on, even if reluctant. If I were Putin I would recall ambassador from Ukraine and give diplomatic recogntion to NAF like how the US ended diplomatic ties with Syria and recognized FSA.