The Situation in the Ukraine. #17

Khepesh wrote:It has been obvious for a while, but in clear. The troll, whether one or two individuals, is using normal differences of opinion between real Donbass supporters in order to create divisions between posters and stifle debate as posters may not say what they want to say for fear of inadvertantly giving ammunition to this troll, who now drags me into this by name. IMO, trolling to create divisions within a forum should be met not with ignore, but a ban, as this type of activity is an attack on the forum itself.

Khepesh wrote:It has been obvious for a while, but in clear. The troll, whether one or two individuals, is using normal differences of opinion between real Donbass supporters in order to create divisions between posters and stifle debate as posters may not say what they want to say for fear of inadvertantly giving ammunition to this troll, who now drags me into this by name. IMO, trolling to create divisions within a forum should be met not with ignore, but a ban, as this type of activity is an attack on the forum itself.

Ghoster wrote:

Khepesh wrote:It has been obvious for a while, but in clear. The troll, whether one or two individuals, is using normal differences of opinion between real Donbass supporters in order to create divisions between posters and stifle debate as posters may not say what they want to say for fear of inadvertantly giving ammunition to this troll, who now drags me into this by name. IMO, trolling to create divisions within a forum should be met not with ignore, but a ban, as this type of activity is an attack on the forum itself.

It's kind of ridiculous to accuse someone of being the same person just because they don't share the same opinion everyone else seems to. More so to accuse someone of being a troll, because you can't accept that someone else might have a genuinely different opinion.

You know, it's ironic to see the same people who were persecuted on MPnet for "trolling" and "flamebaiting" now persecuting others.

Khepesh wrote:

Ghoster wrote:

Khepesh wrote:It has been obvious for a while, but in clear. The troll, whether one or two individuals, is using normal differences of opinion between real Donbass supporters in order to create divisions between posters and stifle debate as posters may not say what they want to say for fear of inadvertantly giving ammunition to this troll, who now drags me into this by name. IMO, trolling to create divisions within a forum should be met not with ignore, but a ban, as this type of activity is an attack on the forum itself.

It's kind of ridiculous to accuse someone of being the same person just because they don't share the same opinion everyone else seems to. More so to accuse someone of being a troll, because you can't accept that someone else might have a genuinely different opinion.

You know, it's ironic to see the same people who were persecuted on MPnet for "trolling" and "flamebaiting" now persecuting others.

You are way off the mark. I have never responded to any post made by them, and never, until within the last hour when one of them tried to drag me in, even mentioned them. Do you not see that they pretend to be dissafected Donbass supporters? do you not see that they use the posts of some of us with a difference of opinion in order to create division and to stifle debate? MP net was the playground of these scum, you want this to be as well....

Regular wrote:Well maybe Russian officials think he is dangerous. Russia before this war had strick regulations for their own citizens participating in armed conflicts abroad.
He can still stay in Russia I doubt he will be extradicted.

Regular wrote:Thousands of war vets. Sheesh. Standing in blockpost or just taking selfies with uniform doesn't make You vet. Both sides have such vets who go on Donbass safari. Real vets are still there like Motorola men. I am very sceptical about such warriors. There is a reason he is not getting assylum, don't You worry.

The Ukrainian army no longer dares to openly attack the territory of Donbass. But Kiev is further conducting a policy of isolation towards the eastern regions along with continued shelling and blockades, Südwest-Presse wrote.
Over the past six months, both sides of the Ukrainian conflict have violated the Minsk Agreement, Südwest-Presse wrote. Instead of prisoner exchanges and constitutional reform, the parties continue shelling and hindering negotiations.

A required restoration of normal social economic relations with the breakaway Donbass did not take place and Kiev is continuing its overall blockade: the central government prohibits the transport of all goods and supplies to the ‘rebellious’ republics and is not paying pensions and salaries.

Ukrainians who want to travel to eastern parts of the country wait for months for special authorization. But even after that they have to stand hours for at the checkpoints and undergo humiliating check-ups. Thus, Kiev is disregarding the freedom of movement of its own citizens and making them hate their own state, Südwest-Presse wrote.
Donbass is increasingly becoming Russian. People use rubles instead of hryvnia, buy Russian vodka instead Ukrainian gorilka and import medicines from Russia, even if they are twice as expensive as Ukrainian ones.

Thus, the Ukrainian government has given up the idea of open offensives and become passive-aggressive. It treats its own countrymen as enemies, seeking to harm the Donbass people by any means necessary, the newspaper wrote.

Regular wrote:Thousands of war vets. Sheesh. Standing in blockpost or just taking selfies with uniform doesn't make You vet. Both sides have such vets who go on Donbass safari. Then get back with some gopro footage as war heroes.  Real vets are still there like Motorola men. I am very sceptical about such warriors. There is a reason he is not getting assylum, don't You worry. And no one will deport him. If he is so scarred of it then why not to go to Novorossiya and live there. There is more important things to worry about

Regular wrote:It's not my war to go and help them. It's a civil war. I helped some volunteers with uniform as I had few spare Gorka E sets. Rest is up to them to prove that they actually believe in their ideas. Ukrs are loosing faith, they are becoming weaker, they don't believe in ATO anymore. On the other side we see more and more locals joining NAF to the point volunteers from abroad are not wanted anymore. I am cautiosly pro sep, but some of their folks are as dodgy as ukr counterparts. Well time will show if idea of Novorussia is worth to fight for.

Патриотические Силы wrote:The opening of military-patriotic camp in Donetsk.

JohninMK wrote:Since January Ukrainian armorers have built 36 times more weapons than they did during the same period of last year, the country’s top arms maker announced on Wednesday. “Our biggest achievement this year is that Ukraine is once again able to turn out good weapons… Our main priority now is a switch to the production of high precision weapons putting on stream the very latest designs,” Ukroboronprom director Roman Romanov said, adding that nearly 4,000n units of new and upgraded weapons had been supplied to the country’s military over the past year. Of these 105 were tanks and armored vehicles, almost 3,000 rockets, 605 missile and artillery systems an 459 radio communication, electronic jamming and navigation units.

JohninMK wrote:However, revived after being virtually mothballed since the 1992 Soviet breakup, Ukroboronprom’s enterprises are now facing a acute shortage of specialists. Most of the experienced staff quit their dying enterprises back in the 1990 and have since lost their skills. The plants, which managed to survive the years of neglect and disrepair, are manned by pensioners or those who are about to retire due to old age.

Karl Haushofer wrote:I was in MP.net too (with a different name) and I was banned from there for being too pro-Russian.

Karl Haushofer wrote:I still like Russia and hope the best for them, but I have been forced to change my opinion about them in certain areas. They are not tough and cohesive enough to really challenge the West and I have also given up the hope that they will help Donbass win this war.

Karl Haushofer wrote:Even standing in a block post is more than any of us has done to help Donbass.

Erk wrote:Donbass calling for international war crimes tribunal against Kiev.