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Erk wrote:Donbass calling for international war crimes tribunal against Kiev.
These international tribunals are a joke and Pork and co. will never be tried like that.Vann7 wrote:Erk wrote:Donbass calling for international war crimes tribunal against Kiev.
Really Good move.. about damn time .. even if the freedom loving
Europe ignore this.. it will make headlines . and make them look bad.
Im sure many european countries will try to promote and keep
the headlines on media about kiev warcrimes.
Vann7 wrote:Erk wrote:Donbass calling for international war crimes tribunal against Kiev.
Really Good move.. about damn time .. even if the freedom loving
Europe ignore this.. it will make headlines . and make them look bad.
Im sure many european countries will try to promote and keep
the headlines on media about kiev warcrimes.
Факти ICTV wrote:"Black Tulip" brought more than 600 bodies from the Donbass
Vann7 wrote:
No maidan in Armenia..
This should answer all the doubts about the revolution there..
gregoire wrote:There goes the last shred of impartiality and credibility of the OSCE after the banning of russian speakers at the conference.
OSCE votes to condemn russian aggression
Yet the Russians and Novorossians allow their presence in Donbass.gregoire wrote:There goes the last shred of impartiality and credibility of the OSCE after the banning of russian speakers at the conference.
OSCE votes to condemn russian aggression
Erk wrote:gregoire wrote:There goes the last shred of impartiality and credibility of the OSCE after the banning of russian speakers at the conference.
OSCE votes to condemn russian aggression
If the OSCE are going to be so blatently biased, then DPR/LPR should kick them out and start shooting down the OSCE spy drones. We are talking about saving peoples lives here, if the OSCE are feeding Kiev strategic targeting info from their drones, that's a really bad thing.
Why is that? What or who is preventing it?auslander wrote:OSCE operatives should be put out of Novorossiya but they won't be.
auslander wrote:
I'm beginning to think this mess might get real ugly before it's over.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/goldman-sachs-is-so-desperate-to-get-into-ukraine-its-advising-the-government-for-free-2011-6Goldman Sachs has agreed to advise the Ukraine government for free, according to Bloomberg.
The bank, “which hasn’t arranged a debt or equity sale in Ukraine since at least 1999… will advise the administration of Prime Minister Mykola Azarov on managing its investments, state debt and ‘other issues of financial-policy implementation.'”
“The selection follows Goldman’s third attempt in 17 years to crack ” the former Soviet Republic
Erk wrote:auslander wrote:
I'm beginning to think this mess might get real ugly before it's over.
Europe has become really ugly, I don't know if it's a result of US covert operations, or just a general decline in common sense. The madness with the EU economy, the fixation on NATO bases wherever possible, using Russia as a scape goat for anything they can think of. They are doing what I call majoring in minors, meaning that they are spending most of their time fixated on minor problems like Crimea, where the major ones like the collapsing QE stuffed EU economy gets worse and worse, and incredible failed socialization experiment is unraveling before our eyes. Meanwhile Russia is consolidating and getting on with it, more so than even China who seems to be struggling with things like stock market disasters that may cause the people to revolt. Lot's of things in the world are coming unstuck in different places.
Slightly off track, but you might notice that Goldman Sachs is behind a lot of the problems in the world, either will current funding activities or former employees in positions of power and influence making strange decisions that worsen peoples lives. I was discussing this with a friend at length yesterday and we were quite surprised at how frequently Goldman Sachs seems to pop up in a lots of ugly things all around the world. eg. The CANVAS color revolutions (Muneer Satter), cooking the books for Greece to enter the EU. Draghi becoming ECB boss, and of course countless positions of influence in the US government especially on foreign policy.
https://prof77.wordpress.com/politics/an-updated-list-of-goldman-sachs-ties-to-the-obama-government-including-elena-kagan/
They were trying to get into Ukraine for many years:
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/goldman-sachs-is-so-desperate-to-get-into-ukraine-its-advising-the-government-for-free-2011-6Goldman Sachs has agreed to advise the Ukraine government for free, according to Bloomberg.
The bank, “which hasn’t arranged a debt or equity sale in Ukraine since at least 1999… will advise the administration of Prime Minister Mykola Azarov on managing its investments, state debt and ‘other issues of financial-policy implementation.'”
“The selection follows Goldman’s third attempt in 17 years to crack ” the former Soviet Republic
The point I am making is if you thinks something ugly is happening, or about to happen around the middle east or Europe, look closely, I bet half the time you can find a financial connection to Goldman Sachs, or a former employee steering things. Putin needs to watch them closely. (And Soros)
JohninMK wrote:Further to the posts above, Lavrov makes the valid point.
UFA (Sputnik) — The Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE PA) is engulfed in propaganda instead of actual work after accepting an anti-Russian resolution, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday.
"During our absence, the OSCE PA has become engulfed in propaganda instead of actual work," Lavrov said during a press conference in the Russian city of Ufa.
On Wednesday, the OSCE Parliament Assembly passed a resolution initiated by Canada and Ukraine that condemned Russia's alleged involvement in the Ukrainian conflict.
The resolution was adopted by 96 to 7 votes, with 32 abstentions, including Switzerland, Armenia and France.
The Russian delegation is not participating in the OSCE PA session in Helsinki, Finland, as several delegates were denied entry visas. Russian State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin is among those not allowed into the country. The rest of the Russian delegation withdrew from participation in the session in protest.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150709/1024408102.html#ixzz3fOAlI9nk
wilhelm wrote:JohninMK wrote:Further to the posts above, Lavrov makes the valid point.
UFA (Sputnik) — The Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE PA) is engulfed in propaganda instead of actual work after accepting an anti-Russian resolution, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday.
"During our absence, the OSCE PA has become engulfed in propaganda instead of actual work," Lavrov said during a press conference in the Russian city of Ufa.
On Wednesday, the OSCE Parliament Assembly passed a resolution initiated by Canada and Ukraine that condemned Russia's alleged involvement in the Ukrainian conflict.
The resolution was adopted by 96 to 7 votes, with 32 abstentions, including Switzerland, Armenia and France.
The Russian delegation is not participating in the OSCE PA session in Helsinki, Finland, as several delegates were denied entry visas. Russian State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin is among those not allowed into the country. The rest of the Russian delegation withdrew from participation in the session in protest.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150709/1024408102.html#ixzz3fOAlI9nk
The OSCE is a complete farce. It's always been rather obvious.
And I speak as a non-Russian here.
Russia would be far better off simply withdrawing from it entirely.
Юрий Касьянов wrote:utskirts of Lugansk. Military equipment rashistov. Taken UAV Army SOS
Tatzhit Mihailovich wrote:The Truth About Ukrainian Civil War - "My dad shot at me"
whir wrote:A bit old video but heartbreaking...Tatzhit Mihailovich wrote:The Truth About Ukrainian Civil War - "My dad shot at me"
Since Kiev finished up their "Maidan,” hounding out the government of Yanukovych, Ukraine has had to endure the displacement of 1.4 million people. Not only that, according to a report of the United Nations, poverty would be on a sharp increase in the country because of the grip of the International Monetary Fund, which granted Kiev a loan of 17.5 billion, whose return is strangling the Ukraine.
A country in pieces is the picture that emerges of Ukraine from the United Nations report: "The Millennium Development Goals. Ukraine: 2000-2015." This report has been drawn up with the support of the National Demographic Institute, the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, and the Ministry of Economic Development, thus its credibility is beyond doubt.
The country would be undergoing the harshest inflation that hit Ukraine in several months, to the point of reaching 40.7%, according to data of the State Statistics Service.** Such a high inflation rate clearly undermines purchasing power, especially of the poorest sections of the population, making mere survival problematical.
According to the report the situation will only worsen in the coming months because of the war in the Donbass, and through 2015, poverty will keep growing in the Ukrainian population, targeting as many as 32% of the citizens. In short, a rude awakening for the Ukrainians who had the illusion that the "Maidan" could finally reach the regions of prosperity, a deception that today is paid directly by the people who find themselves having to deal with inflation, unemployment, and uncertainty resulting from the war.
Last year at least 1.4 million people had to flee in order to escape from the war in the Donbass, dramatic figures photographing a country almost bankrupt and unable to guarantee security to its citizens, often at the mercy of armed nationalist gangs. If we counted the citizens of Ukraine who have fled to Russia and Belarus, the total number of displaced Ukrainians approximates two and a half million people. These huge figures speak of a Ukraine completely destroyed so far as the human point of view is concerned.
But the biggest problem for Kiev comes just from the International Monetary Fund, which has loaned the new Ukrainian government 17.5 billion euros, since the loan came with the imposition of draconian reforms. The result is that to pay off this debt, the government has increased all bills (Electricity up 40%, gas 280%, heating 66%), making survival difficult for many citizens, especially the most vulnerable. In short, someone may have exaggerated in telling the Ukrainians that turning their backs on Yanukovich and Russia would bring Ukraine to prosperity. Today it's the very same Ukrainians to pay the price.
** Actually lowballed. May 1 inflation rate was 60.9%; June 1, 58.4%. See the year in Ukraine inflation at Trading Economics.
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