Syrian Civil War: News #4

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Stealthflanker wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:


Which is stupid, the signature is going to be everywhere, and they're probably going to jam their own guys.

same logic applies to Krasuha.

He was not refering to Turkish army communications, but Turkmens/FSA. They use commercial grade com equipment without encryption and frequency switching. They might have limited effect on Russians, however in cluttering mode it will sure as hell affect commercial coms big time.

Unless, there's no such things as Turkmen groups, only front for Turkish Intelligence.

Unless ofc. Tho i am not sure what is the most numerous mobile Turkish army radio, many armies still use huge amounts of older types that are secure like school lockers.

Possibly old Harris AN/PRC 114/77, AN/MRC-110 and probably their own version of the Vinson.

The SAA in Latakia says it was fired upon by mortars from within Turkish terrotory
https://russian.rt.com/article/133397

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An interesting development is the fighting between the YPG & allies versus the various rebel groups in Northern Aleppo. They've captured the below marked territory and endangered their supply route to Turkey.



In response:

U.S backed "mod rebels" #FSA launch 100s of rockets targeting #YPG/#PKK positions in SheikhMaqsood #Aleppo
https://twitter.com/HK2307/status/670648860054700032


I wonder who the US will be supporting in this little stoush

Cyberspec wrote:The SAA in Latakia says it was fired upon by mortars from within Turkish terrotory
https://russian.rt.com/article/133397

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An interesting development is the fighting between the YPG & allies versus the various rebel groups in Northern Aleppo. They've captured the below marked territory and endangered their supply route to Turkey.



In response:

U.S backed "mod rebels" #FSA launch 100s of rockets targeting #YPG/#PKK positions in SheikhMaqsood #Aleppo
https://twitter.com/HK2307/status/670648860054700032


I wonder who the US will be supporting in this little stoush

Them kurds always ready to fvck up things.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:The SAA in Latakia says it was fired upon by mortars from within Turkish terrotory
https://russian.rt.com/article/133397

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An interesting development is the fighting between the YPG & allies versus the various rebel groups in Northern Aleppo. They've captured the below marked territory and endangered their supply route to Turkey.



In response:

U.S backed "mod rebels" #FSA launch 100s of rockets targeting #YPG/#PKK positions in SheikhMaqsood #Aleppo
https://twitter.com/HK2307/status/670648860054700032


I wonder who the US will be supporting in this little stoush

Them kurds always ready to fvck up things.

Wow, they're actually close to taking back Meng AB.

US Congresswoman Introduces Bill To Stop "Illegal" War On Assad; Says CIA Ops Must Stop


http://russia-insider.com/en/us-congresswoman-introduces-bill-stop-illegal-war-assad-says-cia-ops-must-stop/ri11507

about menagh airbase very close to turkey border.

Vann7 wrote:

US Congresswoman Introduces Bill To Stop "Illegal" War On Assad; Says CIA Ops Must Stop


http://russia-insider.com/en/us-congresswoman-introduces-bill-stop-illegal-war-assad-says-cia-ops-must-stop/ri11507

I've seen a clip of her before .... she seems very level headed

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html?ir=Australia

Enjoy guys.

PapaDragon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:Well that is something you have first to manage to achieve shooting your own tank...

Reminds me of India Jone's father who shot his own plane.

''I'm sorry son, they got us....''

Haha, classic scene.

Interesting comments in the thread..

IMPORTANT - #Aleppo - By taking over Maryamain, islamist coalition only 5 km from #Afrin (#Efrin), the #SDF (mainly #YPG) stronghold.
https://twitter.com/Syria_Rebel_Obs/status/670731365596471297


The 'moderates' shelling the Kurdish district of Aleppo (Sheikh Maksoud) with hell canons...they've even got a SP (bulldozer) version



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AQ & Friends announcing a continuation of their offensive in South Aleppo
https://twitter.com/BosnjoBoy/status/670708106117140480

Better for Russia if the Islamists win in this case. Defeat US stooges, Islamists are enemies of everyone.

iraqidabab wrote:Better for Russia if the Islamists win in this case. Defeat US stooges, Islamists are enemies of everyone.

There are rumours that all the foreign powers involved in the war have agreed to have the YPG (under the banner of SDF) take over northern territories from the islamists

Cyberspec wrote:

iraqidabab wrote:Better for Russia if the Islamists win in this case. Defeat US stooges, Islamists are enemies of everyone.

There are rumours that all the foreign powers involved in the war have agreed to have the YPG (under the banner of SDF) take over northern territories from the islamists

Can't see the Turks agreeing to that.

JohninMK wrote:Can't see the Turks agreeing to that.

True...I should've added, except the Turks

JohninMK wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:

iraqidabab wrote:Better for Russia if the Islamists win in this case. Defeat US stooges, Islamists are enemies of everyone.

There are rumours that all the foreign powers involved in the war have agreed to have the YPG (under the banner of SDF) take over northern territories from the islamists

Can't see the Turks agreeing to that.

Turkey forfeited their voice when they shot the plane. The US hits two birds with the same stone. Pulls a turkish on the Turks and does this with Russian support. Iraqidabab has a point. It's OK to have Kurds winning in the short term, but it's a big issue in the long term. Having this drag for a little longer should be in Russia's interest. Contracting the Kurds in order to effectively have them reconsider their exclusive ties with the US. Otherwise, the Syrians (and Iraqis) are in for a bigger headache.

it seems that that the NATO and the Yankees deliberately shot down the Russian Jet because, they really want to test the efficiency and capability of the S 400 and Pantisir in actual combat. Since the F 22 is introduced in the ongoing middle east conflict, US Israel and NATO really want to test the modern Russian air defence systems it developed since 1975. NATO and US think that the Russians would fire the S 400 and would be able to find the measures to neutralize it in the coming conflicts. And its pretty clear that the US and Co want to have a BVR and WVR engagement with the laterst Russian fighter air crafts su 30s. What could be the Russians thinking of it?

Militarov wrote:

I watched many, many combat videos in my life, participated in few military exercises, worked with fresh conscripts..but i NEVER in my life saw so bad tank crew, period, never, ever. This is supposed to be Al Nusra tank crew and their "tank assault" on some small village on crossroad.

Now notice what happens at 2:20, 2:25 and 3:00...  First at 2:20 they cut video coz they hit the wall with the gun, then on 2:25 they actually smacked the wall with gun and turret than on 3:00 they are piercing their own track covers....with..coaxial gun... in 2-3 minutes they basically did short course on what not to do as a tank crew...

this somewhat looks like from Video game
Arma 3 maybe.

Reports of Turkey moving tanks close to the Syrian border

http://nnr.su/79223

Project Canada wrote:Reports of Turkey moving tanks close to the Syrian border

http://nnr.su/79223

The original report is from a Greek agency 'Pro News'. They're saying a quarter of the Turkish 1st Army (facing Greece) is being moved towards Syria...they have been sending reinforcements to the border but we should probably wait for confirmation of this report.

Overall, more than 1,000 battle tanks, artillery, TDMA / APC and self propelled rocket launchers were removed from Eastern Thrace in the direction of Syria.

http://www.pronews.gr/portal/20151128/defencenet/%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%83-%CE%B4%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%83/%CE%BD%CE%AD%CE%B1-%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B1-%CE%B1%CF%80%CF%8C-%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CE%BC%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AC-%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD-%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8E%CE%BD-m-60t-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1

The people at Pro News see this as great opportunity to settle scores with Turkey.....they also have a report which claims the FOAB was used near Deir Zoir....so they lean towards the sensationalist news

Cyberspec wrote:

Project Canada wrote:Reports of Turkey moving tanks close to the Syrian border

http://nnr.su/79223

The original report is from a Greek agency 'Pro News'. They're saying a quarter of the Turkish 1st Army (facing Greece) is being moved towards Syria...they have been sending reinforcements to the border but we should probably wait for confirmation of this report.

Overall, more than 1,000 battle tanks, artillery, TDMA / APC and self propelled rocket launchers were removed from Eastern Thrace in the direction of Syria.

http://www.pronews.gr/portal/20151128/defencenet/%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%83-%CE%B4%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BC%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%83/%CE%BD%CE%AD%CE%B1-%CF%80%CE%BB%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%B1-%CE%B1%CF%80%CF%8C-%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CE%BC%CE%B5%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AC-%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD-%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85%CF%81%CE%BA%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8E%CE%BD-m-60t-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1

The people at Pro News see this as great opportunity to settle scores with Turkey.....they also have a report which claims the FOAB was used near Deir Zoir....so they lean towards the sensationalist news

Pro news is very unreliable, actually it's terrible. Turkey has thousands of MBTs to spare before moving any from their 1st Army. The original reports of this move were major turkish media that took photos on Sabra M-60s moving in by train. But the numbers were low, ca. 20 and nothing to do with E. Thrace forces.

^^ It is time for Russia/Syrian forces to strike targets like these so that there are collaterial damage in the form of Turkish soldiers/accompliances.

Btw, few hours back Al Jihadi was claiming about 20 killed in VKS attack on a market in Idlib and the FSA terrorists and allies gaining in their fight in Aleppo with 40 or so SAA and allies killed. Couldn't find these info on the fast moving twitter though.

So it seems that the SAA offensive is stalled now and the FSA counterattacks are somewhat successful?

Karl Haushofer wrote:So it seems that the SAA offensive is stalled now and the FSA counterattacks are somewhat successful?

Where FSA? In Southern Aleppo it's Al Nusra/ Jaish al Fath. Latakia the coastal Divisions are stuck. In Northern ALeppo, the Kurds have kicked off round 345847582 and generally around Palmyra the Syrians are pressing.

With Qaraytayn and Tadmur captured, could SAA reach Raqqa first, before SDF?