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    Yemeni Conflict: News #2

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:21 pm

    Al Masdar News reported several days ago that Saudi army tried to make a push towards the capital of Al Hajjah governorate. The precise outcome of engagement is unknown but Saudis are said to be given a heavy beating.

    Hajjah can be seen on the map below. The isolated red area around Midi and Harad is a part of the governorate. Strategicaly it makes sense for Saudis to push from Harad and Al Hazm to isolate the Sa'dah governorate:
    Yemeni Conflict: News #2 - Page 17 Yemeni_Civil_War
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:41 am

    Jurassic Park: The Lost Flip-flop

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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:02 am

    The song of Flip-flop

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    Post  Kadmos45 Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:01 pm

    Another nonexistent farce called "truce" was sheduled for today.

    But Saudis now "rescheduled" this to April 11th.
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    Post  TheArmenian Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:36 am

    Flip-flopping on the beach



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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:50 am

    Iranian Konkurs...

    #JeSuisFlipFlop
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    Post  VladimirSahin Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:35 pm

    Can anyone explain why these guys are so effective against the Saudis!?
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:02 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:Can anyone explain why these guys are so effective against the Saudis!?

    Because of epic Saudi incompetence.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:51 am

    The Implosion of the House of Saud

    The Panama Papers psyops revealed that – ailing – King Salman of Saudi Arabia is among a roast of notorious offshore profiteers «in relation» to «associates».

    The House of Saud used British Virgin Islands shell companies to take out at least $34 million in mortgages for lavish houses in London and «a luxury yacht the size of a football field». And yet Western corporate media has given it a glaring pass. Quite predictable: House of Saud notables feature heavily among prime Western vassals.

    As it stands, a major disconnect is also in effect. The House of Saud is busy spinning the need for austerity at home even as it is now positioned as the world’s third-largest spender on weapons, ahead of Russia.

    «Austerity» is a bit rich when I revealed earlier this year that the House of Saud not only unleashed an oil price war – against Russia, Iran and the US shale oil industry – but also was busy unloading at least $1 trillion in US securities on the market to balance its increasingly disastrous budget.

    And now we have a major PR offensive in Western corporate media by Warrior Prince Mohammad bin Salman, 30, the lead conductor of the disastrous, illegal and crammed with civilian collateral damage war on Yemen. Young Salman is selling himself as an Arab David Bowie – the Man Who Changed the World, mostly because of his desire to partially privatize Aramco and partially extract Saudi Arabia from its strict role as an oil hacienda by creating a $2 trillion fund.

    For the US, UK and France, especially, Saudi Arabia is the proverbial «key ally». It’s not only the – again proverbial – second-largest oil reserves in the world, and the notorious Mob-style 1945 «protection» deal struck between Roosevelt and Ibn Saud. It’s the House of Saud as the key anchor for the petrodollar; and the House of Saud consistently buying over $100 billion in weapons from the West in the past few years.

    Yet, in parallel, Saudi Arabia – a mix of theocracy and absolute monarchy, complete with a gaggle of intolerant, fundamentalist imams – keeps perpetuating its role of ideological matrix to all strands of Salafi-Jihadism, including of course its latest incarnation: the phony ISIS/ISIL/Daesh «Caliphate». The House of Saud, directly and indirectly, has lavished over $100 billion all across the lands of Islam – and beyond – to spread its fundamentalist Wahhabi «vision».

    A glimpse behind the velvet curtains

    For a while there have been incessant rumors, from London to New York, and across the Middle East, of a possible coup in Riyadh.

    Now a policy-making source with intimate knowledge not only of the House of Saud but its real masters in the Washington/Wall Street axis has offered an unprecedented glimpse into the current, groundbreaking power play in the Kingdom.

    According to the source, «Prince Mohammed bin Salman really does realize what is happening. He is being set up. He is surrounded by consultants going over the entire Saudi economic system aiming for its reorganization – which is certainly necessary. And some of these consultants at the same time are organizing the data for the CIA. This would make any transition away from the monarchy – which the CIA loathes – much easier, towards a favored military officer».

    And this would also imply that some of Aramco’s Western employees – hired to hold the place together – are your proverbial CIA agents; a classic cover for clandestine ops.

    The whole process started a while ago, in April 2014, when there were rumblings in Riyadh about a move to get rid of King Abdullah. Eventually a compromise was struck; Bandar bin Sultan, a.k.a. Bandar Bush – who badly bundled the war in Syria via his sponsorship of an army of Jihadis – was fired as the real culprit in this Saudi-led war of terror. And Prince Mohammed bin Nayef was promoted to number two in the Kingdom – duly under the orders of His Masters’ Voice in Washington. As he was anointed Crown Prince, Nayef was all but enshrined as the next King in the succession of King Salman.

    What the publicity-savvy young Salman wants is to turn the tables. He sees himself as his father’s successor. Yet internal resistance is fierce. According to the source, «it does not play well among the poor masses of the Kingdom that he brags about a two-trillion-dollar stock value of Aramco when they are suffering the removal of House of Saud subsidies». As for the Saudi oil wealth, the young Salman deceptively does not believe «the decline in oil prices poses a threat to us, for us it’s a free market that is governed by supply and demand».

    Our source is adamant that «Mohammed bin Nayef is very capable and a very effective fighter against terrorism. He is mature, stable, capable and talented. The problem is there is growing discontent in the Kingdom over the oil price war ordered by Washington. Consultants meanwhile are pressing Mohammed bin Salman to cut subsidies. That is certain to disorient the masses towards him. And this gives, then, a justification for any coup whereby the population is neutralized».

    Which brings us to the all-important massive weapons purchases angle: «This has to do with the efforts of Mohammed bin Salman to create a strong Saudi army, in combination with military alliances with Pakistan and Egypt, which are paid for allies. Money is being thrown around all over, while subsidies are to be cut. This will only add more pressure on the monarchy».

    The military front is not exactly a win for the Salmans, father and son. Sisi in Cairo certainly balks at the notion of having Egyptian troops trapped in a Yemen quagmire. Same with Sharif in Islamabad – who refused to send a Pakistani contingent.

    So King Salman was forced to turn towards India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi. After all there are 3 million Indian workers in Saudi Arabia, and India imports 20% of its oil from Saudi Arabia. Still, no Indian troops.

    Both India and Pakistan clearly see, this is all part of Riyadh’s extensive, paranoid anti-Iran campaign. India and Iran are partners in the expansion of the New Silk Roads across Eurasia. And Iran-Pakistan are key partners in Pipelineistan – via the IP gas pipeline.  

    Time to line up for a cab?

    The possibility of a coup in Riyadh further on down the road still remains. It boils down to Exceptionalistan’s control. Saudi Arabia under the Warrior Prince cannot possibly be trusted, according to influential sectors in the Beltway. Turkey is now considered out of control; Sultan Erdogan being snubbed in Washington by Obama could even turn out to be the prelude for his eventual removal by the Turkish military, which are really under Exceptionalistan’s control. Iran cannot be counted on – because for Tehran the priority is Eurasia integration and a closer strategic relationship with both Russia and China.

    Arguably the House of Saud could turn things around by raising the oil price to $100 a barrel, via a 10% cutback in production worked out with Russia at the upcoming meeting in Doha; and realign their policies with Russia as a balancing power. Forget it; it’s not bound to happen.

    What’s fascinating in this running Saudi House of Cards plot is that, according to our source, «King Abdullah was someone that could be argued to be useful to the United States to maintain the stability of oil supply». But influential Beltway players do not regard Salman or his son that way; especially the son is thought of as «erratic and unstable».

    Once again: control, control, control. Our source explains how «the West has educated Saudi Arabia’s military officers – who are often Western intel agents. That’s why Crown Prince Sultan never trusted them and purposely kept the military weak when he was Defense Minister. He feared them as the privileged source in a takeover of the country. And he was certainly correct. In the CIA’s eyes, the Saudis need outside supervision. And this is one of the reasons for the CIA’s desire for regime change, as the place is spiraling out of control».

    Yet here’s another key disconnect. The CIA believes the House of Saud to be the chief sponsors of global terrorism. But that’s not true. Most of these terror ops are 21st century remixes of Operation Gladio. And that implies the hand of NATO/Pentagon. This disconnect partially explains why the Pentagon and the CIA are at each other’s throats.

    It’s still unclear which US intel faction will eventually prevail in Riyadh – and that may further change depending on who will be the tenant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue next year.

    For the moment, quite a few influential players are fond of imagining an astonishing House of Saudi fortune, including Thousand-and-One nights-style assets of the extended royal family, all frozen overseas, from the US to Panama. With the inevitable corollary of thousands of princes lining up for cab driver jobs in London and New York.

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/04/14/the-implosion-of-the-house-of-saud.html
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:27 am

    Interesting article. This is an extract

    In late March the Houthi rebels, who control the capital Sana’a and much of the rest of the country, seized a cache of files.

    The US claims that these contain details of CIA operations and the names of agents. It also says they have been handed over to Iran, which is known to back the Houthi forces fighting the US-backed government.

    As few people care about Yemen, exposure of agents there is not going to embarrass the US for more than a couple of days. It could have let this incident pass without comment, or denied it had taken place, and the effect on public opinion, and on the ground, would have been the same. Instead, it has responded by trying to get every US soldier and diplomat out of Yemen as quickly as possible, so fearful is it of what is in those files.


    http://journal-neo.org/2016/04/07/the-us-pulls-out-of-yemen-why-so-sudden/
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:19 pm

    Media: Saudi authorities have threatened Obama to sell off assets in the U.S.


    http://ria.ru/world/20160416/1412268498.html

    MOSCOW, 16 Oct — RIA Novosti. The Saudi authorities has threatened the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama to sell the us assets of the Kingdom, if Congress approves a project that allows you to sue the Saudi government for involvement in the September 11 attacks, the newspaper writes New York Times.
    According to the newspaper, the foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia Adel al-Jubayr has sounded the warning during his visit to Washington in March of this year, stressing that Saudi Arabia will be forced to sell securities and other assets worth up to 750 billion USD in the event of a threat of freezing their American courts.
    According to the publication, the Obama administration held talks with members of Congress and attempted to convince them of necessity to reject the bill, because it threatens the country's diplomatic and economic consequences.



    Would be interesting.
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    Post  George1 Mon May 09, 2016 7:22 pm

    Saudi Arabia Intercepts Missile Launched From Yemen

    The Saudi-led coalition command said Monday that the Saudi Air Defense Forces on Monday had intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile, which had been launched from Yemen in the direction of Saudi Arabia, local media reported.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the SPA news agency, the missile launch has not caused any destruction or damages and the launch platform was also destroyed by the Saudi forces.

    The coalition command reportedly considers the incident as an act of escalation carried out by Houthi rebels at a time when the coalition is seeking to cooperate with international community to solve the conflict and the reconciliation talks are underway in Kuwait.

    The command added, as quoted by the media, that it would continue to observe the recently announced truce, though it was keeping the right to respond correspondingly to similar provocations in future.

    Yemen has been engulfed in a military conflict between the government headed by President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi and Houthi rebels, the country’s main opposition force, which have been supported by army units loyal to former Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

    Since March 2015, the Saudi-led coalition of mostly Persian Gulf countries have been carrying out airstrikes against the Houthis at Hadi's request. Earlier in the day, media reported that the government delegation and the country's Houthi rebels had renewed settlement talks in Kuwait.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160510/1039337856/yemen-missile-saudi-interception.html#ixzz48CSADk5Z
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    Post  sepheronx Sat May 14, 2016 11:38 pm

    I believe there was an infographic showing Ballistic missile strikes on Saudi Arabia - how many, where they hit and how many killed. Does anyone have that?
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    Post  George1 Thu May 19, 2016 8:09 pm

    Yemen’s south to announce independence on Saturday

    The leader of the separatist Southern Movement in Yemen says the group will announce the secession of the south from the rest of the Arab country and declare independence in a ceremony in the city of Aden on Saturday.

    According to al-Mashhad-al-Yemeni news website, Saleh Yahya Saied, the chairman of the Supreme Council of the Revolutionary Peaceful Movement for the Liberation and Independence of the South, said time has come to announce the breakaway from Yemeni unification as “most of the territories of the south have been liberated and the establishment of a southern national army has been launched.”

    He added that the independence document will also be unveiled in the ceremony on May 21.

    The port city of Aden, Yemen’s second largest city, used to be the capital of a once independent South Yemen before unification in 1990.

    Saied further said that the document includes the formation of a national council for a transition period of two and a half years and an interim government which will be followed by elections in the south as well as the formation of a presidential council. The council will be comprised of six members where each of them will represent one of the provinces of Aden, Abyan, Lahij, Hadhramaut, Mahrah and Shabwah.

    The news comes as Yemen has been under airstrikes by Saudi Arabia since the regime in Riyadh launched its fatal campaign against the impoverished country on March 26, 2015, in a bid to undermine the Houthi Ansarullah movement and restore power to former president, Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi.

    More than 9,400 people have been killed in the Saudi airstrikes ever since.

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/05/18/466295/Yemen-South-independence-Saudi-Arabia-war
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    Post  Glowtop Tue May 24, 2016 5:52 pm

    Saudi warplanes have carried out fresh airstrikes on the northwestern province of Amran, killing and wounding more Yemeni people despite international warnings about deteriorating humanitarian crisis in the war-hit country.

    their latest aerial aggression on Wednesday, Saudi jets killed at least two civilians and injured nine others in Jabal al-Aswad area in the Harf Sufyan district of the province, Yemen’s official Saba Net news agency reported.

    Meanwhile, Saudi troops targeted different areas in the west-central Ma’rib province with rockets and artillery shells. No information on possible fatalities and the scope of damage has been reported yet.

    Yemen’s warring parties, the Houthi Ansarullah movement and delegates loyal to Saudi-backed former president Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi, resumed face-to-face talks on Monday following a two-day interruption after an appeal by the UN envoy.

    The peace talks on Yemen, which began on April 21 in Kuwait City, have failed to establish a comprehensive peace deal as delegations trade accusations of violation of the ceasefire that took effect on April 11. Houthi Ansarullah movement has accused Saudi Arabia and its mercenaries of constantly violating the truce agreement.

    Yemen has been under airstrikes by Saudi Arabia since the regime in Riyadh launched its fatal campaign against the impoverished country on March 26, 2015, in a bid to undermine the Houthi Ansarullah movement and restore power to Hadi. More than 9,400 people have been killed in the Saudi airstrike ever since.
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu May 26, 2016 9:23 am

    The Saudi did it again.

    https://www.rt.com/news/344445-saudi-coalition-family-killed/

    Eleven members of one family, including at least four children have been killed in an airstrike, presumed to have been carried out by the Saudi-led coalition, witnesses and officials said, adding that a small girl was the sole survivor of the strike.

    The incident took place in the town of el-Mahala, Lahj province in southwestern Yemen. The plane thought to belong to the United Arab Emirates fired two missiles at the house of the family of 12, local media and AP reported, citing witnesses and officials.

    One child – a little girl – survived the strike. Pictures allegedly showing her among the ruins of her house have flooded the internet, along with photos of her dead relatives.

    “The bodies were distorted and human remains were everywhere,” Ahmed Hadash, a local witness, told AP, adding that the warplanes were flying for 40 minutes with explosions heard during all that time.

    According to an unnamed official, the house of the family was adjacent to a house where Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorists resided.
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu May 26, 2016 9:27 am

    George1 wrote:Yemen’s south to announce independence on Saturday

    The leader of the separatist Southern Movement in Yemen says the group will announce the secession of the south from the rest of the Arab country and declare independence in a ceremony in the city of Aden on Saturday.

    (...)

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/05/18/466295/Yemen-South-independence-Saudi-Arabia-war

    People's Democratic Republic of Yemen with Communist Party for the 2nd time ? Shocked Question
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    Post  max steel Tue May 31, 2016 6:05 pm

    Saudi says intercepts and destroys ballistic missile from Yemen

    Saudi Arabia has intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile fired from Yemen and a Saudi-led military coalition said late on Monday it may be forced to reconsider a truce that has been place since April.

    Saudi state news agency SPA quoted the statement as saying that the missile, the second such strike this month, was destroyed in mid-air without causing any casualties. The air force also destroyed the platform from which the missile was fired, it said.


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    Post  sepheronx Tue May 31, 2016 6:21 pm

    max steel wrote:Saudi says intercepts and destroys ballistic missile from Yemen

    Saudi Arabia has intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile fired from Yemen and a Saudi-led military coalition said late on Monday it may be forced to reconsider a truce that has been place since April.

    Saudi state news agency SPA quoted the statement as saying that the missile, the second such strike this month, was destroyed in mid-air without causing any casualties. The air force also destroyed the platform from which the missile was fired, it said.


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    Didnt Saudi also get hit really hard from multiple others that they didn't manage to hit?
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    Post  max steel Tue May 31, 2016 6:45 pm

    Still better results for Patriot-3 in this conflict. can't deny that.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue May 31, 2016 6:51 pm

    Yes but, aren't we missing some data? What BM used? How many were actually fired and hit their intended targets?  How many interceptor missiles used for 1 target? I mean, we are talking about the fact that it was not long ago Saudi forces bases were getting hit real hard and many Saudi's died.

    I asked this question before and didn't get the answer - how many missiles were launched and how many were intercepted?  As well, there was an infographic that showed all the hits and what missiles used.  Cant find it now though.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue May 31, 2016 7:08 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Yes but, aren't we missing some data? What BM used? How many were actually fired and hit their intended targets?  How many interceptor missiles used for 1 target? I mean, we are talking about the fact that it was not long ago Saudi forces bases were getting hit real hard and many Saudi's died.

    I asked this question before and didn't get the answer - how many missiles were launched and how many were intercepted?  As well, there was an infographic that showed all the hits and what missiles used.  Cant find it now though.

    c´mon just accept that after 27years intercepting Scuds is improved! number of missiles fired will never pop up this would make marketing and NATO ´s eastern flank feel uncomfortable Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue May 31, 2016 8:04 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    max steel wrote:Saudi says intercepts and destroys ballistic missile from Yemen

    Saudi Arabia has intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile fired from Yemen and a Saudi-led military coalition said late on Monday it may be forced to reconsider a truce that has been place since April.

    Saudi state news agency SPA quoted the statement as saying that the missile, the second such strike this month, was destroyed in mid-air without causing any casualties. The air force also destroyed the platform from which the missile was fired, it said.


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    Didnt Saudi also get hit really hard from multiple others that they didn't manage to hit?

    yes multiple Tochka's hit and scored a couple of successes. And at least one SilkWorm variant was used against a small sigint boat and at least three C8XX were used against bigger maritime targets. We all love our #KhatPeople
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:17 pm

    Does anyone have more details? I am gonna make a post on the website kinda digesting it
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:09 am

    No comment.

    https://www.rt.com/news/345629-un-saudi-yemen-child-abuses/

    Bowing to political pressure from Riyadh, the UN has temporarily removed it from a blacklist of children’s rights violators, after a report released last week deemed the Saudi-led coalition responsible for hundreds of minors’ deaths in the Yemen conflict.

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