Su-35S: News

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
Naturally, I meant what I had written, more than 3 m^2.

F-22 having frontal RCS of 3m^2 or more in the X-Band? Are you out of your mind?

Sukhoi realizes how difficult it is to track the F-22 which is why they are inserting L-band radar within the leading edge of the PAK-FA and maybe even the Su-35S.

The radar power equation is proportional to 1/range^4 and only linearly proportional to RCS. However at very low RCS it becomes difficult to distinguish a signature from noise.

higurashihougi wrote:

But for Russian-type ground radars, no, F-22 can't escape.

Define irony. And yet you do not understand why Sukhoi is inserting L-band radar within the leading edge of the PAK-FA/Su 35S.

Re RQ 170, Iranians know a dick about RCS. The RQ 170 had a power plant failure  and crashed in Afghanistan. Shia groups loyal to Iran took it across the border.

NickM wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:

But for Russian-type ground radars, no, F-22 can't escape.

Define irony. And yet you do not understand  why Sukhoi is  inserting L-band radar within the leading edge of the PAK-FA/Su 35S.

Re RQ 170, Iranians know a dick about RCS. The RQ 170 had a power plant failure  and crashed in Afghanistan. Shia groups loyal to Iran took it across the border.

Haha, cool bs story.

Stealth drone in Afghanistan...who you with your bullshit sources want to bullshit?

It was used over Iran, they catched it with russian Avtobaz EM vehicle and landed it on their airfield, they know much about RQ-170 RCS, this little RQ-170 is the reason why Iranians had such a leap jump in aviation technology of their own build up Military Industrial Complex. The US first denied, they used a stealth drone over iran, then Iran showed it to the public and Obomba the clown immidiatley started to threaten Iran with sanctions for "STEALING" the RQ-170, the iranians took several weeks to study it and now they have enough knowledge to build their own.

But cool story...Afghanistan...

NickM wrote:The radar power equation is proportional to 1/range^4 and only linearly proportional to RCS. However at very low RCS it becomes difficult to distinguish a signature from noise.

Nick,

Ask someone that has some free time to explain to you why the above assertion of yours proves that you don't even have an elementary school understanding of anything.

Forget about radars, RCS, airplanes, ...; everything you said about them was gibberish; just "think" about this basic fact that an equation is never proportional to anything, never.

   

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

NickM wrote:The radar power equation is proportional to 1/range^4 and only linearly proportional to RCS. However at very low RCS it becomes difficult to distinguish a signature from noise.

Nick,

Ask someone that has some free time to explain to you why the above assertion of yours proves that you don't even have an elementary school understanding of anything.

Forget about radars, RCS, airplanes, ...; everything you said about them was gibberish; just "think" about this basic fact that an equation is never proportional to anything, never.

   

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Nick,

Ask someone that has some free time to explain to you why the above assertion of yours proves that you don't even have an elementary school understanding of anything.

Oh Yes! I forgot. Isn't this your usual alibi...? "I don't have time."

For some reasons best known to you, you presume that the only employed person in this planet is you.

NickM wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Nick,

Ask someone that has some free time to explain to you why the above assertion of yours proves that you don't even have an elementary school understanding of anything.

Oh Yes! I forgot. Isn't this your usual alibi...? "I don't have time."

For some reasons best known to you, you presume that the only employed person in this planet is you.

Well, with your common reasoning you must be employed as a boarder guard or at an immigration office.

higurashihougi wrote:The reason why Russia put the L-band radar on its wings is because the nose of a fighter aircraft is small and you cannot put on that nose a big radar for utlizing L-band or lower wavelength ones to strip off the stealth cloak.

Why do you need L-band radars to be large in the first place? L -Band radar permits good long range search performance with modestly sized antennas.L-band offers an additional economy, as a single L-band design can combine conventional primary radar functions with secondary IFF/SSR functions, thus saving considerable antenna and transmitter/receiver hardware weight, cooling and volume.

Werewolf wrote:Well, with your common reasoning you must be employed as a boarder guard or at an immigration office.

Says a man without a job.

I am a student and i do have a job.

I read somewhere that F-22 has around 30 antenna smoothly blended into the wings and fuselage ,anyone knows about that ?

ahmedfire wrote:I read somewhere that F-22 has around 30 antenna smoothly blended into the wings and fuselage ,anyone knows about that ?

That's various antenna, i guess most of them are part of ALR-94 RHAWS.

Don't forget, that MiG-31 also have L-band elements in its Zaslon radar and were used in combination with AA-6 AAMs. As I know MiG-31BM keep them in its Zaslon-AM radar, although MiG-31BM doesn't use AA-6 anymore. Su-35 and PAK-FA will also be equipped with L-band AESA complex, so I think this L-band complex will be connected with new long range AAM RVV-BD as all those fighters are meant to use long range AAMs with ~300 km range. Majority of self defense jammers are for X-band, not for L-band, so those new missiles will have better capabilities in heavy ECM environment comparing to X-band ARH AAMs and better capabilities to engage stealth planes.

Cool picture of new Su-35 fighters in new colors. For me they look better in this colors than in dark gray.

Great find Medo, few more pics here on RP.net:
http://russianplanes.net/st/Sukhoi/Su-35S

Apparently 7 borts passing through Perm. Wonder where are they going.
PS: think i found it, they are going to Lipetsk and will be part of the parade, also Su-30SM will take part.

medo wrote:Cool picture of new Su-35 fighters in new colors. For me they look better in this colors than in dark gray.

Much better IMO as well

Su-35S live firing R-73 missiles.

Is there going to be a pause in su-35 procurement for ruaf? We're some 6-7 months away from the original order of 48 planes being fulfilled. So far no new contract has been published. Since one needs to secure long lead items for production, some taking 18 months before the airframe is contracted, it seems plausible to me that either A) there's already been a new contract signed but it was made secret
or B) contract has not been signed and some additional batch of su-35, even if the contract is signed tomorrow, is not due to be handed over to ruaf before end of 2017.

If true, it also might signal a preplanned action, where knaaz has its production facility reserved for foreign buyer during a period where ruaf pauses in its procurement. It'd also require a full contract signed in secrecy already.

But in that case ruaf would find itself in a position where it chooses to produce more su35 perhaps up to 2020, and have pak-fa being produced in numbers alongside it.

Su-35S with KAB-1500L

Russia to Unveil New Su-35 Fighter Engine at Paris Air Show

Rostec will demonstrate an engine for its famous Sukhoi Su-35 at Le Bourget, the company said on Monday.

LE BOURGET (Sputnik) — Russia's state technology corporation Rostec will showcase an engine for its famous Sukhoi Su-35 (Flanker-E) at the world’s oldest air show in France, the company said on Monday.

Some 37 Russian organizations are expected to be among 2,000 participants from 46 countries at the week-long 51st Paris Air Show at Le Bourget Airport kicking off on Monday.

"We expect the professional community to devote a lot of attention to the AL-41F1S (Izdeliye 117S) engines installed on Russia’s multifunctional Su-35 fighter aircraft," a corporate representative told RIA Novosti.

The new engines, it was explained, are intended to serve as transitional engines for fifth-generation jet fighters and will be manufactured by a Rostec subsidiary, the United Engine Corporation (ODK).

The Paris Air Show will feature a 1-3 scale mockup of the bypass turbofan engine with a thrust-vector-controlled afterburner designed for Su-35/35S jets.

The Su-35 fighter was first introduced to a foreign audience at the Paris Air Show in 2013 as a heavily upgraded derivative of the Su-27 multirole fighter touted as "4++ generation."

The 4++ designation signifies that the Su-35's combined characteristics, with the exception of stealth capabilities and active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars, bridge it closer to the fifth generation fighter.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150615/1023377036.html#ixzz3d8jzAw4C

Will the Russian VVS purchase more Su-35S's in the future? I heard whispers that they were.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:Will the Russian VVS purchase more Su-35S's in the future? I heard whispers that they were.

They're coming close to the end of the first contract. Aready 34 planes delivred on 48 ordered: so it would make sense if they went for 48 more planes soon.