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Su-35S: News
George1- Posts : 18523
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- Post n°651
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Su-35S with R-27T (air-to-air) and Kh-29T (air-to-surface) missiles (from left to right)
Isos- Posts : 11602
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- Post n°652
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Intersting video at 2:35 there are r-77 with its folding grid in horizontal position. Woukd be nice to see if those are new ones and could be carried as such on the fighters for reducing rcs.
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- Post n°653
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https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201812111712-ah64.htm
Video from a delivery ceremony. Can´t russian so... But it seems quite a few Su-35S were delivered, among them the 100th produced?
Video from a delivery ceremony. Can´t russian so... But it seems quite a few Su-35S were delivered, among them the 100th produced?
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Hole wrote:https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201812111712-ah64.htm
Video from a delivery ceremony. Can´t russian so... But it seems quite a few Su-35S were delivered, among them the 100th produced?
Exactly
https://twitter.com/UAC_Russia_eng/status/1072488971559677952
ult- Posts : 837
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- Post n°655
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+4 for VKS. 78 in total. 24 for China. 102 Su-35S have been produced so far.
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- Post n°656
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Intersting video at 2:35 there are r-77 with its folding grid in horizontal position. Woukd be nice to see if those are new ones and could be carried as such on the fighters for reducing rcs.
They are stored and loaded with the rear grid fins folded, but the rear grid fins always seem to be opened and locked when mounted on external pylons.
I would assume for internal carriage on stealth aircraft the rear grid fins would remain folded for space reasons, so I assume it could be loaded on a pylon with the rear grid fins folded but I have never seen them actually do that.
There is talk of a new model with normal triangular rear fins and it is mostly to reduce drag...
Personally I think it is worth developing a solid rocket motor booster for the rear that includes a fairing over the rear grid fins to cover them and eliminate their drag... once it burns out the main normal rocket of the weapon could fire and blow most of the rear rocket booster off leaving an external slim fin for flight control connected where the grid fins connect when they fold out so basically the rear rocket booster has small rear triangle fins for simply steering that connect in where the normal grid fins fold back in to connect while the solid rocket booster is burning... when it burns out and falls away there is still a front piece attached to the missile covering the rear grid fins and having rear triangle fins for flight control while the missiles normal rocket motor starts up and carries the missile to the target.
When the guidance system tells the missile it is within 5km of the target it can blow off the remains of the rear booster and triangle low drag fins and deploy the grid fins which are low drag for the amount of lift they generate... they allow the missile to turn at 150 degrees per second without stalling... which is amazing turning performance and very useful on a missile for shooting down aircraft.
George1- Posts : 18523
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Comment bmpd. Thus, the last four (from the seventh to the tenth) Su-35S fighters of the state defense order of 2018, built by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant. Judging by the attached video report of the TV channel" Zvezda ", two of these aircraft have tail numbers" 14 red "and" 15 red ", and the other two also have red tail numbers of the" 1x "series.
These airborne numbers lead us to conclude that these four fighters, like the previous Su-35S vehicles built by KnAAZ for 2017 and 2018 programs, entered the 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 105th mixed aviation division of the 6th Leningrad Red Banner Army The Air Force and Air Defense of the Western Military District, stationed at the Besovets airfield in Karelia.
These aircraft were manufactured according to the new five-year contract for the supply of 50 Su-35S fighters, concluded by the Russian Ministry of Defense with Sukhoi Company JSC in December 2015. The first ten Su-35S aircraft under this contract were built by KnAAZ in 2016, another ten in 2017, and now ten in 2018. Earlier it was reported that under the state defense order program in 2018, KnAAZ should hand over ten Su-35S.
Thus, with the expected entry into Besovets of the last four Su-35S fighters of the state defense order in 2018, the structure of the 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment will be increased to 30 aircraft of this type (26 new buildings KnAAZ 2016-2018 and four 2014 buildings of 23 th regiment).
The 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment was the first "linear" aviation unit of the VKS in Western Russia to receive Su-35S aircraft. Until the beginning of 2016, this regiment was equipped with non-modernized Su-27 and Su-27UB fighters (two squadrons - a total of about 20 Su-27 and four Su-27UB). In the spring of 2016, the transfer of the upgraded Su-27SM fighter jets to the 159th regiment was released as a result of the rearming of Su-35S fighters of the 22nd and 23rd Fighter Aviation Regiments of the 303rd Guards Mixed Aviation Division of the 11th Red Banner Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District. And at the end of 2016, the supply and Su-35S fighters of the new construction began in Besovets. The Su-27 and Su-27SM fighters released from the 159th regiment were partially transferred to other aviation units. However, the phrase from the official press release of October 23, 2018 that "currently equipped with the latest and modernized models of aircraft more than 70 percent, apparently, indicates that the squadron remains in the regiment alone on fighters of the Su-27 family, and the regiment is thus apparently transferred to a three-squadron squadron.
Taking into account the first contract of 2009 for 48 Su-35S fighters, the Russian Aerospace Forces have thus received 78 production Su-35S aircraft since the end of 2012. Taking into account 24 Su-35 export-modified fighter jets, built in 2016-2018 and delivered to China under the 2015 contract, this gives 102 Su-35 built fighter jets. Thus, as part of the last batch, the 100th production Su-35 aircraft was indeed handed over to the Russian VKS.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3452097.html
These airborne numbers lead us to conclude that these four fighters, like the previous Su-35S vehicles built by KnAAZ for 2017 and 2018 programs, entered the 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 105th mixed aviation division of the 6th Leningrad Red Banner Army The Air Force and Air Defense of the Western Military District, stationed at the Besovets airfield in Karelia.
These aircraft were manufactured according to the new five-year contract for the supply of 50 Su-35S fighters, concluded by the Russian Ministry of Defense with Sukhoi Company JSC in December 2015. The first ten Su-35S aircraft under this contract were built by KnAAZ in 2016, another ten in 2017, and now ten in 2018. Earlier it was reported that under the state defense order program in 2018, KnAAZ should hand over ten Su-35S.
Thus, with the expected entry into Besovets of the last four Su-35S fighters of the state defense order in 2018, the structure of the 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment will be increased to 30 aircraft of this type (26 new buildings KnAAZ 2016-2018 and four 2014 buildings of 23 th regiment).
The 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment was the first "linear" aviation unit of the VKS in Western Russia to receive Su-35S aircraft. Until the beginning of 2016, this regiment was equipped with non-modernized Su-27 and Su-27UB fighters (two squadrons - a total of about 20 Su-27 and four Su-27UB). In the spring of 2016, the transfer of the upgraded Su-27SM fighter jets to the 159th regiment was released as a result of the rearming of Su-35S fighters of the 22nd and 23rd Fighter Aviation Regiments of the 303rd Guards Mixed Aviation Division of the 11th Red Banner Army Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District. And at the end of 2016, the supply and Su-35S fighters of the new construction began in Besovets. The Su-27 and Su-27SM fighters released from the 159th regiment were partially transferred to other aviation units. However, the phrase from the official press release of October 23, 2018 that "currently equipped with the latest and modernized models of aircraft more than 70 percent, apparently, indicates that the squadron remains in the regiment alone on fighters of the Su-27 family, and the regiment is thus apparently transferred to a three-squadron squadron.
Taking into account the first contract of 2009 for 48 Su-35S fighters, the Russian Aerospace Forces have thus received 78 production Su-35S aircraft since the end of 2012. Taking into account 24 Su-35 export-modified fighter jets, built in 2016-2018 and delivered to China under the 2015 contract, this gives 102 Su-35 built fighter jets. Thus, as part of the last batch, the 100th production Su-35 aircraft was indeed handed over to the Russian VKS.
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3452097.html
ultimatewarrior- Posts : 798
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Anyone know how many are ordered? Russia air force needs at least 150 Su-35 in case Ukraine and America invade Crimea.
Isos- Posts : 11602
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ultimatewarrior wrote:Anyone know how many are ordered? Russia air force needs at least 10150Su-35 in case Ukraineand Americainvade Crimea.
Corrected for you
franco- Posts : 7053
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ultimatewarrior wrote:Anyone know how many are ordered? Russia air force needs at least 150 Su-35 in case Ukraine and America invade Crimea.
The present order is for 98 aircraft by the end of 2020, of which 78 have been delivered to date.
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ultimatewarrior wrote:Anyone know how many are ordered? Russia air force needs at least 150 Su-35 in case Ukraine and America invade Crimea.
No. No. And No. They'll order more, but not for that reason, and there will be no Hohol invasion....
Isos- Posts : 11602
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franco wrote:ultimatewarrior wrote:Anyone know how many are ordered? Russia air force needs at least 150 Su-35 in case Ukraine and America invade Crimea.
The present order is for 98 aircraft by the end of 2020, of which 78 have been delivered to date.
That's fast. Means 10 per year still. I suppose they can finish them before the end of 2020 and start more of them unless they want full production of su57.
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I suspect they will continue to produce Su-35s even after production of the Su-57s starts picking up.
And Russia would not really need anything regarding the Crimea... if the Ukrainians and the Americans try to invade the Crimea... I think the Crimeans would win that on their own... and probably enjoy themselves...
And Russia would not really need anything regarding the Crimea... if the Ukrainians and the Americans try to invade the Crimea... I think the Crimeans would win that on their own... and probably enjoy themselves...
George1- Posts : 18523
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2 of the Su-35s delivered in the last batch
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3480496.html
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3480496.html
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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GarryB wrote:I suspect they will continue to produce Su-35s even after production of the Su-57s starts picking up.
And Russia would not really need anything regarding the Crimea... if the Ukrainians and the Americans try to invade the Crimea... I think the Crimeans would win that on their own... and probably enjoy themselves...
America is at a major tactical disadvantage over Crimea and Ukraine would have enough missiles flying at the Rada and their bases, I doubt many RuAF aircrafts would be needed to begin with, since artillery is within range.
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What interests me more is when will a Su-35 contract between Russia and Vietnam be materialized...
Isos- Posts : 11602
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miketheterrible wrote:GarryB wrote:I suspect they will continue to produce Su-35s even after production of the Su-57s starts picking up.
And Russia would not really need anything regarding the Crimea... if the Ukrainians and the Americans try to invade the Crimea... I think the Crimeans would win that on their own... and probably enjoy themselves...
America is at a major tactical disadvantage over Crimea and Ukraine would have enough missiles flying at the Rada and their bases, I doubt many RuAF aircrafts would be needed to begin with, since artillery is within range.
Those ukrainian sukhois and migs are outdated compare to RuAF but they can still launch bombs on the ground troops. Su-35 and maybe one or two su-57 to shoot them would increase sells of those fighters. Even more if they destroy a nato f-16 by mistake. China would buy another 50 to counter japan and US.
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Isos wrote:Those ukrainian sukhois and migs are outdated compare to RuAF but they can still launch bombs on the ground troops. Su-35 and maybe one or two su-57 to shoot them would increase sells of those fighters. Even more if they destroy a nato f-16 by mistake. China would buy another 50 to counter japan and US.
I think China will invest more for their own domestic J-xx rather than buy huge number of Su-35. I dunno much about China's equipment but I think China's J-xx is more than enough to counter F-15 and F-16.
(but I want Vietnam to buy Su-35... Vietnam plz... )
Just my 2 cent.
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According to this article it appears the 790th will be the next unit to get the Su-35S.
https://altyn73.livejournal.com/1367488.html
https://altyn73.livejournal.com/1367488.html
George1- Posts : 18523
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franco wrote:According to this article it appears the 790th will be the next unit to get the Su-35S.
https://altyn73.livejournal.com/1367488.html
yes here says that a pair of Su-35S flew already there
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3489310.html
Isos- Posts : 11602
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Can someone translate the comment on the instagram post ? Looks like su-35 intercepted badly some f-18. That seems to be official insta of a russian pilot !!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtKt_QPHrCj/
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/russian-media-su-35-fighter-jets-humiliated-backed-down-us-fa-18s-2019-1
Edit: there is english translation in comments. Nothing interesting actually.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtKt_QPHrCj/
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/russian-media-su-35-fighter-jets-humiliated-backed-down-us-fa-18s-2019-1
Edit: there is english translation in comments. Nothing interesting actually.
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Maybe, after this 100 untits batch of Su-35S is complete, RuAF will purchase some more squadrons of this model... Then, I think will be time for a Su-35S2, with an AESA radar, Su-57's HUD, and others possible improvements, that could be extended to the rest of the feet, including the Su-30SM, with a avionic/sensor communality with the next batches of Su-35.
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I think the next step for the Su-35 will include a helmet mounted display system that makes the HUD less useful...
AESA would increase the price of the aircraft, but if they want the price to come down with mass production then they need to get them into service and gain more experience feedback to guide further development.
I would expect the further development of weapon targeting pods for the Su-35 will also be further developed too.
AESA would increase the price of the aircraft, but if they want the price to come down with mass production then they need to get them into service and gain more experience feedback to guide further development.
I would expect the further development of weapon targeting pods for the Su-35 will also be further developed too.
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VKS until 2020 will strengthen 20 Su-35 fighters
Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Khabarovsk Territory). May 29. Interfax - By the end of 2020, the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation will receive 20 generation fighter jets 4 ++ Su-35S, said Russian Deputy Minister of Defense Alexei Krivoruchko.
https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=0&nid=509077&lang=RU
“According to the Su-35, the company fulfills all its obligations on time, this year we will receive several vehicles even ahead of time. In accordance with the terms of the existing contract, we expect to receive another 20 Su-35S fighter jets during this and next year,” he said. Wednesday at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KNAAZ) (part of the company "Sukhoi")
Krivoruchko noted that KNAAZ is constantly working on upgrading the fighter, including taking into account the Syrian experience. In particular, the following modifications of the Su-35S will be able to use all types of air-to-air and air-to-surface aircraft missiles.
Su-35 deeply modernized super-maneuverable multi-generation fighter "4 ++". It uses the technology of the fifth generation, providing superiority over fighters of a similar class. Distinctive features of the aircraft are a new avionics complex based on a digital information and control system, an integrated onboard equipment system, a new radar with a phased antenna array with a long range for detecting air targets with an increased number of simultaneously followed and fired targets, new engines with increased thrust and swivel vector thrust.
anybody knows if current Su-35S have still PESA or already AESA radar?
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They still have Irbis-E. Only aesa radar they have are fga-35 for mig-35 and Byelka for su-57. Both are still not produced.