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    Russia's National Defense Strategy issues

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:35 pm

    Isos wrote:Chinese are supposed to take part to only one part of the exercices.
    Russia’s massive military exercise with China aimed at Pacific leverage
    There are those who believe Vostok 2018 was designed against China as the operational threat, and that China’s participation was an afterthought. Instead, 3,200 elite Chinese soldiers will deploy to the Tsugol Training range in the Trans-Baikal region of Russia, part of Russia’s Eastern Military District close to the Chinese border.
    http://www.atimes.com/article/vostok-2018-military-exercise-designed-to-enhance-russias-pacific-leverage/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=bffac7869d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_09_07_07_18&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-bffac7869d-31607385
    This is also to show that they stand together & that it will be futile to drive a wedge between them anytime soon.
    Mongolia is now similar to Romania inside the old Warsaw Pact: she was allowed more independent foreign policy but could be invaded at any time. They better not abuse this privilege!
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    Post  Hole Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:02 am

    The mongolian president is a giant fan of Russia.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:58 pm

    But not of the PRC. They love Dalai Lama & practice Tibetan Buddhism. I've been there. What is now Outer Mongolia was part of the Qing Empire & was a Soviet unofficial 16th republic since 1924 to 1991.
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    Post  George1 Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:01 pm

    All Mongolian leaders are fans of Russia because of China's fear. Mongolia gained its Independence with Russian aid after all
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:21 pm

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    Post  George1 Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:39 am

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:47 am

    US worst nightmare - Russian and Chinese army together thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:20 am

    George1 wrote:..... Mongolia gained its Independence with Russian aid after all

    And it's alphabet.

    Also, they owe them big time for saving their bacon at Khalkin Ghol back in the 30's.



    Interesting tidbit about drills: East and Central military districts​ are wargaming against West and South.




    Some cool screengrabs (40 of them) on BMPD but this is my favorite part so far, love the ATV/Lynx/Mi-26 combo thumbsup

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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:44 am

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    Nice vehicle. But the ATGM is ancient.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:24 pm

    Hole wrote:Nice vehicle. But the ATGM is ancient.

    Maybe but against many IFVs and old tanks it will still be effective, and is utterly lethal against light vehicles and trucks.  Useful against bunkers as well.
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    Post  Isos Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:11 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Hole wrote:Nice vehicle. But the ATGM is ancient.

    Maybe but against many IFVs and old tanks it will still be effective, and is utterly lethal against light vehicles and trucks.  Useful against bunkers as well.

    I would say against all but those with ADS and tank based ifv.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:36 pm

    Now thats what I like to see! Laughing russia

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    Eat shit HATO tongue

    RT article
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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:04 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Hole wrote:Nice vehicle. But the ATGM is ancient.

    Maybe but against many IFVs and old tanks it will still be effective, and is utterly lethal against light vehicles and trucks.  Useful against bunkers as well.

    I would say against all but those with ADS and tank based ifv.

    Kornet or Ataka would be much better. I smell a new contract for the russian MIC. Very Happy
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    Post  0nillie0 Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:37 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Hole wrote:Nice vehicle. But the ATGM is ancient.

    Maybe but against many IFVs and old tanks it will still be effective, and is utterly lethal against light vehicles and trucks.  Useful against bunkers as well.

    I would say against all but those with ADS and tank based ifv.

    Kornet or Ataka would be much better. I smell a new contract for the russian MIC. Very Happy

    Compared to Kornet, the HJ-73C/D missile is only marginally inferior in terms of armor penetration behind ERA. It does have reduced range and slower speed, but for self defense it is more than adequate.
    If the Chinese wanted a more potent missile installed on this type of vehicle, they have a range of domestically produced options to choose from.

    HJ-8 ( wire guided - 4 km, proved to be quite effective in Syria and other places, despite its age )
    HJ-9A ( laser-beam-riding & MMW radar - 5+ kilometers )
    HJ-11 ( semi active laser guidance - range unknown?)
    HJ-12 ( infrared homing - 4km fire & forget )

    These weapons are small and can easily be integrated onto vehicles, even replacing the HJ-73.
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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:26 pm

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    Someone brought out the big guns! Very Happy
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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:32 am

    Video of exercises of the Navy and VKS of Russia in the Mediterranean Sea, held from September 1 to 8, 2018.

    In the Mediterranean Sea, for the first time in the history of modern Russia, the exercises of the grouping of the forces of the Navy and the Russian Air Force were held. The event was attended by 26 warships and vessels of the Russian Navy, including two submarines, as well as Tu-160, Tu-142, Il-38, Su-33 and Su-30SM aircraft. The flagship of the grouping is the Northern Fleet missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov. During the exercises, the tasks of anti-submarine warfare and anti-aircraft defense, protection of maritime communications, countering piracy and rendering assistance to a ship in distress were worked out, as well as practical rocket and artillery fire.



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    Post  Isos Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:59 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mod_russia

    Lot of pictures and videos of vostok18 exercice on this twitter account.
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    Post  George1 Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:29 am

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    Post  Isos Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:57 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Eire_QC/status/1045328665389813760

    Huge convoy spotted in Russia. I think there are some NBC systems out there. Probably for an exercice. We can see how modern they became.
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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:59 pm

    1 or 2 old trucks but the rest looked new. Lot of Tigr-M´s with Arbalet gun mounts.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:33 am

    Isos wrote:
    Huge convoy spotted in Russia. I think there are some NBC systems out there. Probably for an exercice. We can see how modern they became.

    due to Us biological weapons facility in Georgia? mind this is in North Caucasus...
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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:22 am

    Did you read the comments?

    One broke down and the rest are getting drunk...

    Excellent... believe your stupid stereotypes... it makes you weak.

    Of course it is obviously not a column of georgian army vehicles... they were not opening fire on the civilian vehicles going past... Razz
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:34 am

    GarryB wrote:Did you read the comments?

    One broke down and the rest are getting drunk...

    Excellent... believe your stupid stereotypes... it makes you weak.

    Of course it is obviously not a column of georgian army vehicles... they were not opening fire on the civilian vehicles going past... Razz


    Who told you that this was Georgian column?! dont drink posting. lol1 lol1 lol1

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