Syrian Civil War: News #6

kvs wrote:

ultron wrote:This just in. Reports of SAA artillery shelling Turkish positions.

If this is true, then it is very good news.  Russia apparently ain't afraid of mighty NATO.   Having the
Syrians defend themselves and backing them up is the best solution.

Syria is a small country. Syria cannot fight NATO alone. If Russia does not fight, then Russia itself will be invaded in the NOT too distant future.

Saudi Arabia sending more jets and troops to Turkey about tomorrow or so.

http://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/saudi-arabia-to-send-jets-to-turkeys-incirlik-airbase-turkish-fm-2411100

ultron wrote:Saudi Arabia sending more jets and troops to Turkey about tomorrow or so.

http://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/saudi-arabia-to-send-jets-to-turkeys-incirlik-airbase-turkish-fm-2411100

The USA play again your game. Other successive rushing to then kill both the end.
Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah can not be small at now. Everything else was to usual and the zombies will gradually pick up everything and in the end Russia will fall.

Now we are on the eve of a new war. If Russia hesitates if Iran hesitates is lost not only Syria. Then both countries are the same with lost. Either it is now drawn the red line here and now in Syria (Iraq) or no one will come to help more if the US wants to destroy their proxies Russia and Iran.

Syria has no choice but to fight. Every transaction, every compromise resulted in five years of war, only to losses and defeats. Now must have an end no matter what it costs.
The zombies can not win otherwise loses mankind.

Turkish army positions on the map

Putin must warn Turkey and Saudi Arabia that he WILL do Operation Desert Storm and decimate any illegal invasion force that comes into Syria.

ultron wrote:Putin must warn Turkey and Saudi Arabia that he WILL do Operation Desert Storm and decimate any illegal invasion force that comes into Syria.

We'll see. Saudi Arabia and Turkey have made it clear they are going all in. The slow pace of progress sadly allowed this situation to foment.

zorobabel wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin must warn Turkey and Saudi Arabia that he WILL do Operation Desert Storm and decimate any illegal invasion force that comes into Syria.

We'll see. Saudi Arabia and Turkey have made it clear they are going all in. The slow pace of progress sadly allowed this situation to foment.

Qaeda is nothing but a proxy of Turkey and Saudi Arabia. There is no Qaeda without Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Qaeda is nobody without funds and arms supplied by Turkey and Saudi Arabia. This war is about punishing Turkey and Saudi Arabia for sponsoring terrorism.

Erk wrote:The fact that the US A-10s were able ti fly past the Russian air defense and bomb Aleppo seems like a serious problem to me.

If you think for a second than 2x  A-10 made in the seventies ,that are non stealth ,
and very slow moving targets ,could evade Russia airdefenses you are seriously mistaken.
As i told before Russia/Syria rules of engagement allows US airforce to fly for the moment over Syria. but not all parts. If US Airforce start a full scale war against Syrian positions it will be the end of the courtesy and Syria will start shutting down american planes.

Is not an agreement Russia or Syria likes but they forced to take , until they get control
of all Syria and liberate its cities. Once Syrian army take controls of all its borders and most of its territory it can focus in defending every inch of its airspace form any illegal fly from NATO on its territory.It will be impossible for americans to fly anywhere ,or justify any operation too if ISIS routed from Syria.

By the way Saudi Arabia don't have an army.. it mostly mercenaries.. (like ISIS) what they have. With Pentagon providing them logistics. A Saudi Open Invasion is very unlikely ,IS not going to work ,because they cannot remove the Russian Airforce from Syria that can bomb their positions. If Saudis do that it will be the most ridiculous move. Probably what they seeking to do
is supply with weapons their terrorist. Rush with many tanks and use as cover civilians populated zones. Still it will be embarrasing. What could really Turkey-Saudi can do,without
starting a full scale war against Russia. is what they doing now. Use their artillery across border.
but also send hundreds of thousands reinforcement from Turkey army to help their Alqaeda buddies. But they still will be a target of Russian airforce bombing. So pretty much is all about
who dominates more the Syrian airspace.

What a fucking up situation this is.

I always said the war in Syria will be the start of a big war. Maybe not WW3 scale, but certainly one of the biggest wars humanity has ever seen. On the scale of the Hundred Years War. Buckle up, because this is going to be long and brutal.

Eventually, Russia WILL have to deploy ground forces. In the end, there WILL be many casualties. What did you expect? This is a WAR, not a game.

Zivo wrote:What a fucking up situation this is.

That's how it's been from day one, the news headlines and diplomatic PR just cover up the true story, which is that Turkey/Syria/Qatar etc. led by US/EU wanted to invade Syria to plunder it, and use Syrlia as an oil/gas route for over a decade. Russia and China stopped an outright invasion be using their veto powers in the UNSC back in 2012. The invaders wouldn't take no from the USNC for an answer, so they manufactured the ISIS invasion of Syria out of paid Wahhabi/Muslim Brotherhood mercenaries just like Afghanistan and Chechnya. Proxy wars are always a mess.

ultron wrote:I always said the war in Syria will be the start of a big war. Maybe not WW3 scale, but certainly one of the biggest wars humanity has ever seen. On the scale of the Hundred Years War. Buckle up, because this is going to be long and brutal.

Eventually, Russia WILL have to deploy ground forces. In the end, there will be many casualties. What did you expect? This is a WAR, not a game.

I think  by this time.. Russia should have no less private military in Syria ,than the one they have in Ukraine. There should be from 5,000 to 10,000 pro Russian mercenary forces in latakia ,aleppo zone. Kadyrov for example told he have some forces of his army.. operating in Syria behind enemy lines for example. and Russia have 2,000 Russian soldiers in Syria ,exclusively for defense of Latakia base. with its navy and Airforce covering it too.IRAN have about 2,000 mercenaries too,in Aleppo have been said by Pro Syrian bloggers. This means that Russia should have in Russia at least enough forces that they lead enough to hold a 20,000 to 50,000 Nato proxy mercenary invasion. As long as it airforce continues dominating the Syrian airspace. and probably some tactical nuclear armed missiles too ,have to be in Syria already. in case US or Turkey do something really stupid against them. All said.. Russia is pushing the whole conflict to keep NATO fighting by proxy. I think Saudi Arabia is merely trying to scare Russia and will not be so crazy to invade Syria and expect at the same time not being bombed to dust its army
with precision. Unless Erdogan totally lose its sanity and start an open war with Russia, The major danger Russia face is chemical weapons attacks from US and its coalition provided to Turkmen and ISIS. if they really desperate they could even try to do a Serbia in Syria and start
bombing civilians with artillery and US airforce to force Russia stop its support to Syria. NAturaly US will deny any attack on civilians. and will be blamed on Russia.

Erk wrote:

Zivo wrote:What a fucking up situation this is.

That's how it's been from day one, the news headlines and diplomatic PR just cover up the true story, which is that Turkey/Syria/Qatar etc. led by US/EU wanted to invade Syria to plunder it, and use Syrlia as an oil/gas route for over a decade. Russia and China stopped an outright invasion be using their veto powers in the UNSC back in 2012. The invaders wouldn't take no from the USNC for an answer, so they manufactured the ISIS invasion of Syria out of paid Wahhabi/Muslim Brotherhood mercenaries just like Afghanistan and Chechnya. Proxy wars are always a mess.

Close but not quite. The Rothschild dynasty wants to control the whole world through IMF and World Bank. Putin does not kowtow to the Rothschild dynasty. That's why the Rothschild dynasty tries to destroy all of Russia's allies. Libya bleh. Syria bleh. The ultimate goal is to invade Russia and make Russians kowtow to the Rothschild dynasty.

zorobabel wrote:

ultron wrote:Putin must warn Turkey and Saudi Arabia that he WILL do Operation Desert Storm and decimate any illegal invasion force that comes into Syria.

We'll see. Saudi Arabia and Turkey have made it clear they are going all in. The slow pace of progress sadly allowed this situation to foment.

They said they are going all in...after Uncle Sam goes all in.

That is a big caveat and all of you are just feeding the local trolls.

Thanks for dumbing down the forum. Where the fuck are the mods?

PapaDragon wrote:They said they are going all in...after Uncle Sam goes all in.

Say one thing, do another. Haven't you learned? The deception of warfare. Erdogan and House of Saud are mad people. They are not sane. Do not expect them to act sane.

Assad already made it very clear he will NOT tolerate any foreign invasion of the sovereign state of Syria. Expect ballistic missiles to be used on Azaz which is inhabited by thousands of illegal Turkish immigrants.

This war is going to cost the lives of millions, most of them being illegal Turkish immigrants.

The invasion of Russia is not decided in Russia. The invasion of Russia is decided in Syria. Russia must win in Syria to prevent the invasion of Russia.

What SAA needs are better guns. Give them AK-74, Kord, AGS-30. They need all the help they can get to fight off tens of millions of Turks.

Turks will just shell as always, They don't have the balls to invade from the ground without America's OK. And either way, Turkeys army on the South East would be decimated from missile strikes, A guy who recently served in the Turkish army (He doesn't approve of Erdogan) said that the armies logistics are horrible 20-25% readiness. This is proven by the fact that 6 tanks broke down on a ground OP to secure a tomb.... Turkey may have a brainwashed willing population, But their army is in no way on par with even the 40% readiness rate NATO has. The Turks are playing politics, Uniting with their "Muslim sunni brothers" Saudi arabia and I think Qatar. Russia will just arm and train the Houthis even more, And increase presence.

If the Turks do decide they want to play Ottoman warrior, They will face YPG, SAA, Hezbollah, The Russian armed forces, So on and so on. They stand no chance even with Saudi Arabia. The most I can see them going is the outside provinces of Latakia, Where they will be cut down to pieces by Russian aviation. If they decide to go from the North east of Syria, They might get a little farther down before being destroyed. It is so horrible that the Turks are acting like this. They're also very proud about their situation as well....

IMO Russia should deploy long range artillery to join the fight against jihadists in northern Syria. Have them be positioned about 80 km behind the front is safe enough. From there they can unleash Smerch on Azaz.

Putin is being sensible in offering a ceasefire at this point... Assads forces are strong again, but fighting the opposition and ISIS is a bit too much to ask.

Equally a ceasefire with the rebels means both sides fighting ISIS.

Most importantly when he offers ceasefires and the US rejects them it shows who is the warmonger and who is for peace.

Nobody expected the shooting of some unknown toff in a forgotten corner of Europe would start WWI, and few suspected the ridiculous treatment of Germany after that war would lead to a second World War less than half a century later.

If Hilary gets into office I wouldn't rule out WWIII... that dumb bitch probably is dying for the chance to prove she is more of a man than any men around her.

Turkey claims it gave plenty of warning about airspace violations before murdering a Russian pilot and leading to the death of a Russian soldier... Russia can play the same game and warn Turkey if it fires upon Syrian targets it can expect return fire.

NATO is a defence pact where member states are obliged to support other states when they are attacked. That does not apply in wars of aggression so when the US invades a country all NATO states are not obliged to follow.

Russia cease of fire is for the deployment of food to million citizens under siege in Northern SYria.
So NATO allows food to Pro Russian zones and Russia allows food to terrorist controlled zones.

watch this video so you see the untold battles happening in Syria in other fronts..




Also the cease of fire helps Russia to have the international public opinion.  
On its side ,in case a major war start.. then it will be seen Turkey  /Saudi Arabia
as the main aggressor and the ones fueling the conflict in Syria.

Apparently the plan of Saudis is to invade RAQQA using civilians as cover.. lead by
US special forces and capture Raqqa.. (that in reality it will be ISIS just change its name and
allow their Saudis masters to enter the city.).   So that US and Saudi Arabia can claim they fighting ISIS after "liberating" Raqqa.. but it will be a fake liberation. the same terrorist will remain in Raqqa,just that they will pretend to be civilians. and naturally Syrian army and Russia will not be allowed to enter in the city. it pretty much looks NATO plans to take eastern Syria and create a Jijadistan ,and Turkey role will be to stop Syrian Government and Russia to take control of Aleppo. through artillery and reinforcements to terrorist.

In other news stratfor ,the American think thank is apparently claiming now
that Russia is deploying cruise missiles with nuclear warheads in Syria . That will not be
surprising but is now being told by US so called intelligence think tank.

So all said.. it looks like US-Saudi-Turkey invasion is a race for taking Raqqa (transfer of hands from ISIS to US and Saudis with hand shake of hands more accurately what will happen ,)
and that includes the uses of civilians as human shields. So if they race to raqqa quick ,the Russian Airforce will be unable to get all of them.. and once they in Raqqa ,western media
will proclaim "ISIS defeated in Raqqa" by them. Russia will need like a hundred planes to stop a major invasion from Turkey of 350,000 like supposedly some claim. or to start using nuclear weapons in Turkey to Syrian border,to stop their army positions.

Americans naturally once Saudis and Turks reach Raqqa will backup their invasion. and could
use a hundred of its own special forces as human shield to block Russia from bombing Raqqa .

If anyone reach the conclusion ,that US and its allies are playing heavily games to gain public opinion ,in  order to justify their actions will be correct. they use ISIS as an excuse to invade SYria ,and the "liberation of  Raqqa" will be used as an excuse for a ground invasion. The bombing of Northen ALeppo used as an excuse to "Defending turkey " from Kurds. etc.

and providing weapons to "moderates" to target Russian planes used as excuse because
"Russia is bombing civilians".

If Russia bombs raqqa with Americans there it will be used as a propaganda tool against Russia.. look what they did after they "Defeated ISIS". You bet that if they invade ,CNN and BBC will go with them ,for public relations ,and will have fake civilians celebrating the entry
of US/Saudi Coalition in Raqqa. IS all a show ,to manipulate world public opinion.  To justify the
disbanding of Syria in many parts and use the new captured cities to blackmail Syria Government to negotiate for peace (which is a trap) or else the war will continue.

Still with all that ,plans.. it will be difficult for US /Saudi Forces to hold any territory for long
if Russia bombs any air defense deployed by NATO there or any tank formation. and continues dominating Syrian skies. So Russia have the option to let them play ,and take temporarily Raqqa and secure Aleppo first ,then little by little push away the invaders of Syria. or Russia have the options to take the fight directly to the invading nations and start a major war provoked by Turkey,US and Saudi Arabia. Russia also for example can bomb Saudi Oil fields to damage stop Saudi Arabia economy.completely.and get the price of Oil to $120 or even $200
by halting all oil business of Saudis. This also will affect US dollar.

PapaDragon wrote:
That is a big caveat and all of you are just feeding the local trolls.

Thanks for dumbing down the forum. Where the fuck are the mods?

+1

Vann7 wrote:Russia cease of fire is for the deployment of food to million citizens under siege in Northern SYria.
So NATO allows food to Pro Russian zones and Russia allows food to terrorist controlled zones.

watch this video so you see the untold battles happening in Syria in other fronts..

Agreed official US-jihadistan is objective of attacking Syria. Assad second one. I just wonder how far is Russia ready to strikeback in case of invasion ? Those small numbers in Syria now are way to little to stop it. just ads as human shield one might say.

Nukes? then would be relly serious. Imagine blow to Russian economy in such case (we do not trade with war criminals, Putin to hague...)

As for PR make no mistakes regardless of facts Russia/Iran are always blamed for aggression. In Syria peaceful solution can be reached only one way, US way.


Houtis are supported by Iranians AFAIK, but support might be official now, firing on Saudies´ terminals? OK, Russian strike with Klabs all over Turkey? less probable IMHO but still. Strategic bombing? possible.

question what French an d UK forces in region do (rmember UK troops in Jordan?)

MOSCOW, 14 Feb — RIA Novosti. Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia Adel al-Jubayr said that allows an option in which the Syrian President leave his post "by force".

In an interview to TV channel CNN the diplomat said that Assad "without doubt in any case leave his post — either resign or be removed by force"

.

http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160214/1374231365.html

Interesting Saudis are threatening Russia and Iran now? It shows real negotiation potential with "friedns of Syria"

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
That is a big caveat and all of you are just feeding the local trolls.

Thanks for dumbing down the forum. Where the fuck are the mods?

+1

GarryB wrote:Most importantly when he offers ceasefires and the US rejects them it shows who is the warmonger and who is for peace.

don´t matter, Russia is always the one to blame. why those doggies in Baltics wailing always about Russia? or UK ministry of truth: Russia must pay the price?

Nobody expected the shooting of some unknown toff in a forgotten corner of Europe would start WWI,

Not reason but pretext, the reason is always one: resources (mineral, land , food people you mane it)

If Hilary gets into office I wouldn't rule out WWIII... that dumb bitch probably is dying for the chance to prove she is more of a man than any men around her.

as for bitch agreed as for nuclear war with Russia not. As long as Russian missiles can reach EvilHQ DC no nuclear war with is on agenda. Hitlry does nothing more or less to what banksters tell her (Adelson/Soros/Koch to name plankton only)

NATO is a defence pact where member states are obliged to support other states when they are attacked. That does not apply in wars of aggression so when the US invades a country all NATO states
are not obliged to follow.

don´t matter what is written matters how US is interpreting this

Cute.  
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