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    Syrian Civil War: News #8

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    Post  par far Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:20 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:firstly i would agree with those who mentioned the use of TOS-1A in southern Aleppo as this front is becoming increasing dangerous, artillery, airstrikes, and TOS-1A are the only thing thats going to win the day on this front armour is suicide when the rebels have deployed loads of TOW and the SAA etc dont have enough troops to make a real difference here. Which goes on to my next point there was a mention of someone saying that the SAA should deploy tiger forces to Al Bab, although this would be nice seeing as Manjbi is under pressure from the Kurds, ISIS may focus forces on this area leaving Al Bab short on troops, but on the other hand ISIS hasn't attempted to advance in this area and rather starting another aggressive front, it wwould be better for SAA to keep tiger forces where they are considering the rebels advances in southern Aleppo as they might be needed to halt rebel progress.

    It really has been a tough time for the SAA etc, due to the increase in aggressive fronts. The SAA were all set for two major assaults, Aleppo and advance to Deir ez zoir. But with battles raging around northern Palmyra, Northern Hama, southern Hama,  northern Latakia, has caused set backs. And then on top of this major bomb blasts in Tartus and Latakia. It really has been tough but this is also a sign that the rebels are starting to get desperate. I just hope the Southern Aleppo front can hold, as well as Deir ez Zoir. The rebels know that if ISIS is eradicated from Raqqa and Deir ez Zoir, then this frees up a front as well as troops for the SAA which can then be re-rooted towards Aleppo.


    I do not get why the Russian Military don't use private military companies more like the west does, have a Russian private military recruit retired Russian and Iranian Soldiers, Special Forces Soldiers looking for work and train them(they don't need a whole lot of training), give them all the necessary equipment and weapons and sent them to Syria, it will help and make things somewhat easier.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:36 pm


    Dead Russians are still dead Russians, PMC or otherwise.

    Syrians need to start pulling their own weigh for a change and to stop constantly fucking up even the simplest of tasks.
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    Post  Zivo Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:43 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dead Russians are still dead Russians, PMC or otherwise.

    Syrians need to start pulling their own weigh for a change and to stop constantly fucking up even the simplest of tasks.

    The problem is the SAA/NDF have equal or perhaps even less capability than the terrorists. Russia is the one who is failing to break up Al Nusra's current offensive gatherings with air support.

    There is no reason why the terrorists ARMORED COLUMNS should be allowed to freely roam around. Think about it, 90% of the fighting in Syria is over non-strategically important rubble, due to the sterility of the terrain. Why should the NDF die defending worthless rubble? At best they are bait, and if no gunships come to sweep the terrorists when they come out from hiding, there's no point in sticking around, defending ruins.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:06 pm

    Zivo wrote: There is no reason why the terrorists ARMORED COLUMNS should be allowed to freely roam around

    apparently there is at least one...maybe to let all cockroaches to open before light will be on?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:59 pm

    Zivo wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dead Russians are still dead Russians, PMC or otherwise.

    Syrians need to start pulling their own weigh for a change and to stop constantly fucking up even the simplest of tasks.

    The problem is the SAA/NDF have equal or perhaps even less capability than the terrorists. Russia is the one who is failing to break up Al Nusra's current offensive gatherings with air support.

    There is no reason why the terrorists ARMORED COLUMNS should be allowed to freely roam around. Think about it, 90% of the fighting in Syria is over non-strategically important rubble, due to the sterility of the terrain. Why should the NDF die defending worthless rubble? At best they are bait, and if no gunships come to sweep the terrorists when they come out from hiding, there's no point in sticking around, defending ruins.

    This doesn't change one simple fact: this country is called Syria, not Russia.

    Syrians should get off their asses already, their fuckups are legendary at this point.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:55 pm

    Attrition will cost you that much. There will be always bearded cunts to get a death wish.

    Also there's talk of Russians going back.
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    Post  VladimirSahin Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:08 am

    It's not that big of a deal, it is not possible for Syrian or Russian intel units to see such attacks 100% of the time. Nor should this be considered to be a defeat. Syrian forces are spread around a bunch of places, Units that are used in offensives to liberate areas are not always there. Terrorists will take this to the advantage and attack. But now there is a more important offensive launched by SAA and friends to get Raqqa. It is going very successful, and I wouldn't mind losing a strategic area in Aleppo and end up getting Raqqa. Then alot of forces can be assigned to fixing the fuck ups.
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    Post  SturmGuard Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:38 am

    Are these Kornets in these terrorist videos? I am not sure whether is it even all right to post these videos, due to them being terrorist propaganda, but they seemd interesting enough. Please remove them or tell me if they inappropriate.

    The incompetence of these brave pro-gov people who resist them still surprises and puzzles me.










    Russia, please step up the bombing and CAS campaign, not to mention the possibility of sending sharpshooters and SF to hunt these bastards.


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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:24 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Attrition will cost you that much. There will be always bearded cunts to get a death wish.

    Also there's talk of Russians going back.

    How will they go back when they are already there bombing?
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:29 am

    Russian Air Force delivers heavy airstrikes over southern Aleppo: video


    as well:

    Syrian Army, IRGC recapture several points in southern Aleppo
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:53 am


    According to DW this push for Raqqa seems to be more of a cooperation rather than competition.

    http://www.dw.com/en/syrian-troops-backed-by-us-and-russia-press-into-raqqa-province/a-19307168
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    Post  Dima Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:37 am

    Zivo wrote:The problem is the SAA/NDF have equal or perhaps even less capability than the terrorists. Russia is the one who is failing to break up Al Nusra's current offensive gatherings with air support.

    There is no reason why the terrorists ARMORED COLUMNS should be allowed to freely roam around. Think about it, 90% of the fighting in Syria is over non-strategically important rubble, due to the sterility of the terrain. Why should the NDF die defending worthless rubble? At best they are bait, and if no gunships come to sweep the terrorists when they come out from hiding, there's no point in sticking around, defending ruins.
    In my view the other problem is SAA/Russia is not flattening the area and is left as such which gives the terrorists shelters to attack and advance. Unlike Iraq, the Syrian theater is almost fully urban combat inside thick concrete forests....unless those buildings are razed to ground, terrorists will hinder the advance of SAA and allies.
    Raze those building/houses which are used as staging ground for attack on SAA and allies. Thats is going to be the most effective solution at hand now considering that SAA do not have any armed UAVs which could have been very effective to pick those rats from the streets and roofs.

    Below is a good good video of SAA destroying buildings used by terrorists. All those buildings could be razed to ground easily by the likes of KAB-1500 and free up those men from such endeavors, but still we are not seeing it being used maybe coz of cost?

    BM-21 GRAD ‏@bm21_grad  11 hours ago
    Video showing how SyAA RG built a tunnel bomb to blow up rebels in Jobar 2 days ago
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    Post  Dima Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:46 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    According to DW this push for Raqqa seems to be more of a cooperation rather than competition.

    http://www.dw.com/en/syrian-troops-backed-by-us-and-russia-press-into-raqqa-province/a-19307168
    People need to be really stupid to believe that German propaganda outlet that Raqqa offensive is done in cooperation. I will believe it when something concrete come from Russian side/MoD

    A quote from the article provided by the British regimes Syrian propaganda mouthpiece SOHR.
    At least 26 jihadists and nine government troops and their militia were killed in the army's initial advance, according to the British-based Observatory, which relies on reports from medics and activists on the ground in Syria.
    But Thank god there was no casuality.

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1   12 hours ago
    #Syria #Raqqa #To_Raqqa #To_Tabqah #Tabqah @AboZain6 Says there has not been 1 casualty yet on #SAA #SyrianArmy Side


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    Post  Dima Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:09 am

    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  12 hours ago
    #Syria #Raqqa #To_Raqqa #To_Tabqah #Tabqah English Translation for @AboZain6 last big post from yesterday. #SAA

    Syrian Civil War: News #8 - Page 9 CkH05o1XIAIX_VL

    Also

    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba  16 hours ago
    Sandstorm in Raqqa region is delaying further #SAA operations.. Progress stalled at Zakia crossroad. #Syria #ISIS
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    The Desert Hawks, whom are reported to number between 4-5000 in total.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-desert-hawks/
    A hurried and poorly written article.

    @ Militarov,
    Is it that hard to write some description for the videos that you post?
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    Post  Dima Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:27 am

    SANA report on Raqqa offensive, Ithriya-Raqqa road




    https://www.facebook.com/Tiger.Forces007/
    Tiger Forces
    7 hrs ·
    Tiger force's trusted cameraman, Ali Sulaiman, injured during military operations. Wounds don't appear to be life-threatening at this time. Pray for speedy recovery and justice to perpetrators.

    Tiger Forces added 7 new photos.
    13 hrs ·
    Our comrades in the Special Forces on the way to ‪#‎Raqqa‬, and the morale is high!
    ‪#‎Syria‬
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:39 am

    Dima seriously this is not stupid social network. Can you stop using hashtags?
    It is as annoying as it can get!
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    Post  Dima Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:16 am

    Werewolf, I use it coz its someone else hard work and I'm getting the updates due to them, so giving credit where its due.
    Other thing being that others too can follow the link and get updates and posts stuffs.
    I can post it without those links but it doesn't feel good taking someone else stuff without any mention of them. If its annoying, I'll do away with it.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:37 am

    The Syrian military took "Bulldozer" — the main DAISH  executioner

    Подробнее: http://eadaily.com/ru/news/2016/06/02/siriyskie-voennye-vzyali-buldozera-glavnogo-palacha-daish

    In the hands of the Syrian military was, presumably, the chief executioner of the banned terrorist organization of Daesh in Fallujah , nicknamed "the Bulldozer". He got it because of her weight, reports TV channel "Zvezda", publishing and video capture.
    For the first time "a Bulldozer" appeared on photos in 2014. Then he posed with the big heavy machine gun, which it looks like a slot machine on a normal person. He is world-renowned for his cruelty during the executions. "He didn't just kill people, he arranged ostentatious massacres of hostages, including adolescents", — transfers the channel.

    The name and origin of "Bulldozer" is unknown, as unlike his colleagues in the executions — the executioner Jihadi John, this giant was not in the habit to introduce myself and to say monologues before execution.
    Colossal have reported that Jihadi John was involved in many executions conducted by DAIS. British intelligence had established his identity. It turned out that he is Mohammed Amazi, 27-year-old programmer, graduated from the University of Westminster.


    so this is a Syrian civil war against ¨Assad regime¨ as claim UK/US regimes?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Attrition will cost you that much. There will be always bearded cunts to get a death wish.

    Also there's talk of Russians going back.

    How will they go back when they are already there bombing?

    Wee're talking brigade on the ground...Ukraine style.
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    Post  zg18 Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:54 pm

    T-90 Raqqa

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:55 pm


    #SAA take control of al-Kaziyah and the remaining farms east of grain silos after clashes with #IS east of #Tadmor

    https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/739516383541624832




    Raqqua map (finally) from Peto:
    Syrian Civil War: News #8 - Page 9 GCo3jvn




    UPDATE: MANBIJ TACMAP 5 JUN 1340. Reporting Kurdish SDF consolidation of northern salient.

    https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/739512328253767682
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:02 pm

    Russia and US have no agreement. Wink wink
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    Post  Zivo Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:11 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Raqqua map (finally) from Peto:
    Syrian Civil War: News #8 - Page 9 GCo3jvn

    hmm, if they reach Tabqa AB and Highway 4, Daesh territory will be divided into two. The south will be unable to resupply and bring oil too and from Turkey. If the Kurds manage to take the southern flank of Ar Raqqa, Daesh's main line to DEZ will be severed. Theoretically, with the current pace being maintained, we could see a major Daesh defeat over the next few weeks.
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    Post  zg18 Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:34 pm

    Syrians in Raqqa capture ISIS D-30 howitzer

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:58 pm

    so whats peoples views on whats likely to happen after Raqqa is liberated?
    will the war continue?
    if so which will be the next focus?
    and can the Kurds be trusted especially now USA are their new puppet master?

    the one thing that does worry me is its very likely that ISIS will no doubt go on a killing spree killing men women and children in raqqa as well as using them as human shields its the sort thing they do and i think they would be sore losers as well. With only northern Aleppo to run to will they stay and fight or run. Iraqi army is closing in on Syrian border so unlikely to run there. I think it likely that the Kurds will be the ones liberating Raqqa, the SAA still have a lot of towns and villages to go after before they get there and their over stretched. I just hope the southern Aleppo front can hold.

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