Syrian Civil War: News #9

"I ran the CIA now I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton and I want Hillary to kill lots of Russians and Iranians in Syria":https://t.co/Ka7oSby9kk
— Christoph Germann (@newgreatgame) August 9, 2016

You see, Michael Morell is a man of virtue: he calls for death and destruction in proper politesse. Heaven forbid he crack a rude joke.
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 9, 2016

Michael Morell on Charlie Rose said 'Hillary is the toughest in the room' more pro-neocon shade throwing at Obama cc @SamSacks@samknight1
— Robbie Martin (@FluorescentGrey) August 9, 2016

Morell: "Just like we made the Russians pay a price in Afghanistan"
Rose: "By supporting mujahideen?"
Morell: "Yes!"https://t.co/Wg71K1wQSs
— Christoph Germann (@newgreatgame) August 9, 2016

Solncepek wrote: ‘Kill Russians and Iranians, threaten Assad,’ says ex-CIA chief backing Clinton

General Staff of the Russian Federation: 7 thousand fighters under the Aleppo
News

RIA Novosti:
- "The most alarming situation has developed in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo, where in the last week of the terrorists have created a group of about seven thousand militants with armed with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, artillery and vehicles mounted with weapons" - told reporters Head Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant-General Sergey Rudskoy. (Ist)

Another of the applications:
- "For the last four days of losses fighters southwest of Aleppo amounted to more than 1,000 killed and about two thousand wounded Destroyed tanks 7, 8 infantry fighting vehicles, 29 guns and mortars, 85 vehicles with large-caliber weapons." - Said Rudskoy

Russia’s General Staff: About 7,000 militants amassed on Aleppo approaches

http://tass.ru/en/world/893616

Solncepek wrote:
ГШ РФ: 7 тыс боевиков под Алеппо
Новость

РИА Новости:
- "Наиболее тревожная обстановка сложилась на юго-западных подступах к Алеппо, где в течение последней недели террористы создали группировку численностью около семи тысяч боевиков, имеющих на вооружении танки, боевые машины пехоты, артиллерию и автомобили с установленным на них вооружением" - заявил журналистам начальник Главного оперативного управления Генштаба ВС России генерал-лейтенант Сергей Рудской.

Еще из заявлений:
- "За последние четверо суток потери боевиков юго-западнее Алеппо составили более 1000 убитыми и около двух тысяч ранеными. Уничтожено 7 танков, 8 боевых машин пехоты, 29 орудий и минометов, 85 автомобилей с крупнокалиберным вооружением", — сообщил Рудской. (ист)

General Staff of the Russian Federation: 7 thousand fighters under the Aleppo
News

RIA Novosti:
- "The most alarming situation has developed in the south-western outskirts of Aleppo, where in the last week of the terrorists have created a group of about seven thousand militants with armed with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, artillery and vehicles mounted with weapons" - told reporters Head Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Lieutenant-General Sergey Rudskoy. (Ist)

Another of the applications:
- "For the last four days of losses fighters southwest of Aleppo amounted to more than 1,000 killed and about two thousand wounded Destroyed tanks 7, 8 infantry fighting vehicles, 29 guns and mortars, 85 vehicles with large-caliber weapons." - Said Rudskoy

- "Контролируемый ими район находится под постоянным огневым воздействием правительственных войск и отрядов ополчения. Это полностью исключает возможность доставки по нему вооружения и боеприпасов террористам, находящимся в восточной части Алеппо"

"No agreement on a single Russian political or security priority (on st petersburg Putin -Erdogan meeting). (Erdogan) His real audience was in Washington, Berlin, and Brussels." Erdogan is a bazaar wheeler-dealer who strives to wriggle himself into the best possible position both as the Sultan of Turkey and the leader of the Sunnisphere, while manipudividing the Russian and Frankish kaffirs against each other. The bugger should be wearing a red fez and an eye patch, a la Barbary pirate

The Ottoman wrote:Turkish FM: Turkey and Russia agree Syria should have administration allowing everyone to practice beliefs freely

11.08.2016    Turkey, todays headlines    

ANKARA

Turkey and Russia agree that Syria should have an administration which allows everyone to practice their beliefs freely, Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Thursday.

In remarks made in an interview to the Turkish broadcaster NTV, Cavusoglu outlined Turkey’s cooperation with Russia to resolve the Syrian conflict.

"The situation in Syria is getting worse day-by-day," he said. "We always say only a political solution [in Syria] can be permanent, in terms of not hurting civilians, separating moderate opposition from terrorist groups and [ensuring] humanitarian aid."

He said cooperation between Russia and Turkey "on politics, military and intelligence will pave the way for us to put our relations on a solid ground and help resolve problems in Syria.”

He said the next Syrian regime should be all inclusive. "We think the same as Russia on Syria's future. The next administration in Syria should be inclusive and cover everyone.” He added the next administration in Syria "should be a secular one".

"We are on the same page with Russia from old times that Syria should have an administration under which everyone can live with their beliefs freely," he said.

During President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to St. Petersburg Tuesday, Turkey and Russia agreed to establish a joint committee on Syria; members of the Turkish committee travelled to Russia on Thursday. The committee consists of military and intelligence officers and diplomats from both Russia and Turkey.

Syria’s five-year civil war has resulted in more than 500,000 deaths, according to Cavusoglu. Moscow and Ankara support different sides in the conflict, with Turkey deeply opposed to Bashar al-Assad’s regime, of which Russia is a major backer.

Cavusoglu also said the U.S. was cooperating with Turkey on the issue of Fetullah Gulen, the U.S.-based preacher Turkey accuses of plotting the July 15 coup attempt.

“We see the cooperation signals on this issue,” he said, adding that a delegation from the U.S. Justice Department would come to Turkey soon.

“After that we are waiting for a high-level visit,” the minister said. “After the extradition file is prepared, we will go to the U.S. with the justice minister to repeat our demand with this evidence, files and information.”

About two military attaches at the Turkish embassy in Athens fleeing to Italy following their recall to Turkey in the wake of the failed coup, Cavusoglu confirmed the incident.

He said Col. Ilhan Yasitli and Col. Halis Tunc left for Italy by car and ferry with their families on the night of Aug. 6. Turkey’s ambassador to Rome was making inquiries with Italian authorities about their possible extradition, a diplomatic source told Anadolu Agency.

http://aa.com.tr/en/todays-headlines/next-syrian-regime-should-be-inclusive-turkish-fm/626979

Vann7 wrote:IRAN aid to Syria have been very limited. i will say no more than 5,000 mercenaries and majority of them not even iranians. Syria but also Russia lacks heavily from attack drones in the conflict ,something that could have done a major difference in the battle field. Attack drones with lazer missiles (similar to hellfire) , will have allowed to hit terrorist right above their heads whenever they group together inside a building.  Russia airforce cannot achieve that level of precision without using much too expensive means ,with too expensive missiles.

When you go to war , Economy and cost of your weapons is something that cannot be underestimated. it plays a major role. This is why Russia use 99% of the times mostly unguided cheap bombs whenever it bombs terrorist.

So basically what im saying is that the support Syria receive from Russia and IRAN is limited.
for economic reasons and political too. ie.. cease of fire with Americans. etc.


If Russia had developed very cheap ,cost efficient attack drones ,that can fire very cheap guided
missiles ,that Russia will not mind to be studied by NATO either ,it could significantly help to halt the offensives of the terrorist.  Why?

- Because drones are more silent. and terrorist are always warned whenever Russia is taking off
from Latakia by NATO. So terrorist warned before hand by NATO radars in Turkey ,whenever
Russia airforce is withing minutes to bomb them, so they seek cover and disperse.

-Drones can be more cost effective than using planes.

- no human loses ,if drone shut down.

For example drones can be very useful in times , terrorist start a major offensive. Terrorist
always start very spread// but when they are inside Syrian army positions ,they end grouped again.  you see a lot those videos of terrorist in the hundreds grouped together taking selfies ,
hidding in a building. thats the best time for use those attack drones. Russia airforce using
unguided bombs flying too high is not the most ideal way to deal with the terrorist offensives.

So a cheap to produce ,lazer guided attack drone that can deal a direct hit ,right on the place terrorist grouped could be the most ideal thing. Such drone does not need to be stealth ,since will only bomb Alqaeda and ISIS. I dont think Russia have low cost attack drones ,that can fight at visual distance of target ,exclusively made to deal with guerrilla in urban warfare like in Syria.

Why not use Kalibrs to attack terrorists? Kalibrs fly about 100 meters off the ground. Too low for distant NATO radars to detect to warn terrorists. Kalibrs are very accurate. A few Kalibrs would knock out terrorists in southwestern Aleppo.

Vann7 wrote:

Why not use Kalibrs to attack terrorists? Kalibrs fly about 100 meters off the ground. Too low for distant NATO radars to detect to warn terrorists. Kalibrs are very accurate. A few Kalibrs would knock out terrorists in southwestern Aleppo.

Why not use kalibrs?

For the same reason , Russia do not have as many aircraft carriers as Americans.
and as many ballistic submarines as them. Because it cost a lot of money  $$$.

and because it will be overkill , imagine Russia using a 5 million dollar missile Iskander ,
to kill a seminaked terrorist starving on foot with an ak-47 ,located in a mountain. Something they could do with a cheap sniper bullet of $1 dollar. and save $5 million. Iskanders like Kalibrs, are designed to evade NATO aegis defenses. and their numbers in Russia inventory is limited. in the case of Iskanders Russia have just hundred or bit more . So the last thing Russia will do is waste their best weapons in semi naked suicide bombers in Syria and later need to deal with a NATO war ,with their inventory almost empty. simply your best weapons are used against your more powerful enemies and Alqaeda or ISIS is not Russia more dangerous enemies. not even Turkey is. but US.

aside that using too much kalibrs pose the Risk of allowing NATO to spy and monitor and
even capture technology from the missiles to analize it . the few ones Russia used before in Syria were probably to send a warning to NATO of what could happen if they invade Syria but
also to test the missiles in a real war and supervise its performance.

Attack Drones ,with very cheap technology and very cheap bombs is the most ideal way to counter terrorist , so they will not be aware of when Russian drones will be above them until is too late.