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    Syrian Civil War: News #9

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:44 pm


    Fresh map op Aleppo from Peto:
    Syrian Civil War: News #9 - Page 31 CtN4C2BWgAA4Hcm
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    Post  VladimirSahin Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:55 pm

    SAA takes Handarat overnight, but they withdraw when rebels launch a counter attack???? The SAA needs alot of improvement still, you'd expect them to realize when you have the initiative you keep pushing on. How are the rebels able to launch a counter-attack viable enough to make SAA withdraw to avoid it...

    Anyways the good news is they didn't withdraw fully from Handarat camp but to the outskirts where they have somewhat fire control over the enemy. It's annoying that they have to make the operation linger out so long, just keep pressing on until something cracks. Obviously you have better soldiers with better equipment than those goat f***s. Everything is going okayish on the East Aleppo front but God it's annoying when they pull something like a "withdrawal to avoid casualties".
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    Post  calm Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:39 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:SAA takes Handarat overnight, but they withdraw when rebels launch a counter attack????  The SAA needs alot of improvement still, you'd expect them to realize when you have the initiative you keep pushing on. How are the rebels able to launch a counter-attack viable enough to make SAA withdraw to avoid it...

    Anyways the good news is they didn't withdraw fully from Handarat camp but to the outskirts where they have somewhat fire control over the enemy. It's annoying that they have to make the operation linger out so long, just keep pressing on until something cracks. Obviously you have better soldiers with better equipment than those goat f***s. Everything is going okayish on the East Aleppo front but God it's annoying when they pull something like a "withdrawal to avoid casualties".

    terrorists counter-attack


    Liwa al-Quds in Handatar before that.


    Random crater in Aleppo.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:26 pm

    Things must be getting pretty bad for the terrorists in east Aleppo. The UNSC is going apeshit today, all kinds of unbelievable statements, a couple of the best are quoted below, my highlight. Expect an upswell in anti Russia stuff in the press. Someone really wants something big to happen to boost Hillary methinks

    Despite the nuance of the situation, Samantha Power barrelled in with accusations against Moscow saying, "What Russia is sponsoring and doing is not counter-terrorism, it is barbarism."

    "Instead of pursuing peace, Russia and Assad make war. Instead of helping get life-saving aid to civilians, Russia and Assad are bombing the humanitarian convoys, hospitals and first responders who are trying desperately to keep people alive," exclaimed Power. "It is time to say who is carrying out those airstrikes and who is killing civilians," Power said. "Russia holds a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. This is a privilege and it is a responsibility. Yet in Syria and in Aleppo, Russia is abusing this historic privilege."

    Britain’s UN ambassador Matthew Rycroft joined in the chorus saying that Russia would be excluded from the process of bring peace to Syria based on the recent intensification of fighting. The Russian bid to bring peace to Syria "is very, very near the end of its life and yes the Security Council needs to be ready to fulfill our responsibilities," said Rycroft. "The regime and Russia have instead plunged to new depths and unleashed a new hell on Aleppo. Russia is partnering with the Syrian regime to carry out war crimes."


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/russia/20160925/1045690476/aleppo-syria-russia-security-council.html
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    Post  George1 Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:50 pm

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    Post  BKP Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:02 am

    JohninMK wrote:Britain’s UN ambassador Matthew Rycroft joined in the chorus saying that Russia would be excluded from the process of bring peace to Syria based on the recent intensification of fighting. The Russian bid to bring peace to Syria "is very, very near the end of its life and yes the Security Council needs to be ready to fulfill our responsibilities," said Rycroft.

    Uh-huh, and what is he going to do about it?  Rolling Eyes

    And, oh, that Samantha, calling a UNSC meeting so she can continue her grandstanding.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:03 am

    I'm sick and tired of daily UNSC meetings on Syria. These westerners don't care about Syrians. They view Syrians as expendables, not even having the value of dogs. The next time they call for a UNSC meeting on Syria, Russia should skip it.
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    Post  par far Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:56 am

    BKP wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Britain’s UN ambassador Matthew Rycroft joined in the chorus saying that Russia would be excluded from the process of bring peace to Syria based on the recent intensification of fighting. The Russian bid to bring peace to Syria "is very, very near the end of its life and yes the Security Council needs to be ready to fulfill our responsibilities," said Rycroft.

    Uh-huh, and what is he going to do about it?  Rolling Eyes

    And, oh, that Samantha, calling a UNSC meeting so she can continue her grandstanding.



    Everyone knows that the UN, is used by the west, for thier own gain but it is important to be in these, to have your own voice heard.

    Whenever you go to these UN meetings, make sure you have the upper hand, so 2 fully loaded SU 34's will, help you more than words.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:30 am

    The pentagon is calling for a no fly zone for Russia airforce and Syria airforce. and it was told by US generals that such thing will not be possible to implement without war with Russia which is correct and not a genius required to understand that. Even though the Pentagon is calling for war , i dont see such a thing is possible. It will be a political suicide Obama and Pentagon generals.. but a guarantee of a major civil war in America. All that Russia needs to do if attacked by Americans ,its airforce is bomb the hell of American military base in IRAQ ,destroying all their planes in retaliation and if Russia military base bombed by AMericans
    which they will not do , then Russia can sink an American aircraft carrier.. and then what next?

    Will American public support their government starting world war 3 , in defense of ISIS and Alqaeda? I dont think so.. If Americans goes full retard , they will face major insubordination in the military and it will be really ugly for United States world public opinion.

    If they really desperate ,the best they can do ..i suspect is try to get Turkey or Israel to fight Syria. and start bombing Syrian ARmy to provoke a major war.. where Assad will be the one blamed and force Russia to come to the aid of Syria. But a direct open attack of US military
    on Russia? not in a million of years.. for sure all this "No fly zones" is just a bluff ,to try get Putin very hateful against Americans and they use this to damage DOnald Trump campaign who have been advertised an alliance with Russia.

    They could also start smuggling undercoverly NATO air defenses in Syria,operated by NATO military acting as "Rebels" ,to shut down Russia planes etc. But such air defenses will be very hard to defend ,once spotted. they will be neutralized easily with long range artillery or cruise missile. In any case .. i dont care really which way goes , I know Russia will not abandon Syria , since their own nation security will be at Risk if ISIS and Alqaeda not wiped. Putin Himself told will use nukes to stop ISIS or Alqaeda if neccessary .. So there is a lot more to see from Russia and we havent yet seen China hand in Syria too. which will only significatively tip the advantage of Russia and Syria.. Since CHina have endless supply of soldiers and a much stronger economy to handle that conflict.

    So the fact that the Pentagon is calling now for a no fly zone.. shows they are really desperate mode now ,and that they feel frustrated ,because the Terrorist are losing too many jihadist and they understand that if they do not stop Russia soon ,they will lose Aleppo and this will liberate about 10,000 to 20,000 forces to be deployed in a new front. and will become the start of the collapse of Alqaeda and ISIS forces in Syria and of the entire operation. after that the Syrian army can take it more easier ,from there . Still NATO have the Kurds cards, the Turkey card and Israel card. they might commit suicide ,by fighting Russia and Syria. you cannot underestimate their stupidity.
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    Post  Erk Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:12 am

    What would happen if Assad declared Syrian airspace a no fly zone for any other aircraft except Syrian or Russian, and started shooting down offenders?

    The war could be over if the US didn't keep dropping supplies to the militants.



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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:36 am

    You make a very important point Vann. When Aleppo is freed then very large numbers of battle hardened troops will be released for action elsewhere.

    I suspect that it will be a race against time for the US, it has to keep those forces in Aleppo until after it has 'freed' Raqqa.

    There are already reports of serious increases in US forces being integrated with the Kurds and forward helicopter bases.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:01 pm

    The fact Churkin is hard bargaining, means that the Russians and Iranians have a plan to fully capture the City over the rest of the year. The bombings of the 25th september were a probe into that. It's going to be the interesting months for every one.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:03 pm

    WOW if true. From Russian ELINT? Must be important as Russia would not want the US to know just how much they are listening to.

    The Syrian intelligence possesses an audio recording of conversation between Daesh terrorists and US military prior to the Washington-led coalition's airstrikes on the government troops near Deir ez-Zor on September 17, the speaker of the People's Council of Syria said Monday.

    "The Syrian Army intercepted a conversation between the Americans and Daesh before the air raid on Deir ez-Zor", Hadiya Khalaf Abbas said as quoted by the Al Mayadeen broadcaster.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160926/1045706456/us-airstrike-daesh-army.html
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    Post  calm Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:17 pm

    angry
    The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has mobilized several thousand soldiers in the east Aleppo countryside, as they prepare to attack the Islamic State's defenses near the Kuweires Military Airport.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-prepares-storm-east-aleppo/
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    Post  VARGR198 Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:26 pm

    calm wrote: angry
    The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has mobilized several thousand soldiers in the east Aleppo countryside, as they prepare to attack the Islamic State's defenses near the Kuweires Military Airport.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-prepares-storm-east-aleppo/

    AL Bab the target perhaps? I believe the Turks/"moderate" rebels and the Kurds were all making it a target. If the SAA take it would could strengthen their defences north of Aleppo perhaps?
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    Post  BKP Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:WOW if true. From Russian ELINT? Must be important as Russia would not want the US to know just how much they are listening to.

    The Syrian intelligence possesses an audio recording of conversation between Daesh terrorists and US military prior to the Washington-led coalition's airstrikes on the government troops near Deir ez-Zor on September 17, the speaker of the People's Council of Syria said Monday.

    "The Syrian Army intercepted a conversation between the Americans and Daesh before the air raid on Deir ez-Zor", Hadiya Khalaf Abbas said as quoted by the Al Mayadeen broadcaster.

    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160926/1045706456/us-airstrike-daesh-army.html

    This would kick the legs right out from under the lame "coalition", so why don't they just release it instead of talking about it? Sounds too good to be true, I fear.
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    Post  zorobabel Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:05 am

    I kind of expected the SAA would go for Al Bab. The Turko-Terrorist alliance has made very slow progress, and the Kurds don't seem to be doing much except taking a village here and there.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:19 am

    JohninMK wrote:Things must be getting pretty bad for the terrorists in east Aleppo. The UNSC is going apeshit today, all kinds of unbelievable statements, a couple of the best are quoted below, my highlight. Expect an upswell in anti Russia stuff in the press. Someone really wants something big to happen to boost Hillary methinks

    Despite the nuance of the situation, Samantha Power barrelled in with accusations against Moscow saying, "What Russia is sponsoring and doing is not counter-terrorism, it is barbarism."

    "Instead of pursuing peace, Russia and Assad make war. Instead of helping get life-saving aid to civilians, Russia and Assad are bombing the humanitarian convoys, hospitals and first responders who are trying desperately to keep people alive," exclaimed Power. "It is time to say who is carrying out those airstrikes and who is killing civilians," Power said. "Russia holds a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. This is a privilege and it is a responsibility. Yet in Syria and in Aleppo, Russia is abusing this historic privilege."

    Britain’s UN ambassador Matthew Rycroft joined in the chorus saying that Russia would be excluded from the process of bring peace to Syria based on the recent intensification of fighting. The Russian bid to bring peace to Syria "is very, very near the end of its life and yes the Security Council needs to be ready to fulfill our responsibilities," said Rycroft. "The regime and Russia have instead plunged to new depths and unleashed a new hell on Aleppo. Russia is partnering with the Syrian regime to carry out war crimes."


    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/russia/20160925/1045690476/aleppo-syria-russia-security-council.html

    at least British regime officially admitted that West is supporting and protecting Al-Kaida. Ugh specially funny (with French accent) was Frech representative. BT what France is doing among powers? Why France but not India?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:27 am

    Vann7 wrote: for sure all this "No fly zones" is just a bluff ,to try get Putin very hateful against Americans and they use this to damage DOnald Trump campaign who have been advertised an alliance with Russia.

    They could also start smuggling undercoverly NATO air defenses in Syria,operated by NATO military acting as "Rebels" ,to shut down Russia planes etc. But such air defenses will be very hard to defend ,once spotted. they will be neutralized easily with long range artillery or cruise missile. In any case .. i dont care really which way goes , I know Russia will not abandon Syria , since their own nation security will be at Risk if ISIS and Alqaeda not wiped. Putin Himself told will use nukes to stop ISIS or Alqaeda if neccessary .. So there is a lot more to see from Russia and we havent yet seen China hand in Syria too. which will only significatively tip the advantage of Russia and Syria.. Since CHina have endless supply of soldiers and a much stronger economy to handle that conflict.
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    well, then Assad can get Buk´s to protect against fashington all-lies ...and declare no coalition over Syria. If they shoot Froggies or UK then what? wil they bomb SAR and Russia?

    Vann7 wrote:
    So the fact that the Pentagon is calling now for a no fly zone.. shows they are really desperate mode now ,and that they feel frustrated ,because the Terrorist are losing too many jihadist and they understand that if they do not stop Russia soon ,they will lose Aleppo and this will liberate about 10,000 to 20,000 forces to be deployed in a new front. and will become the start of the collapse of Alqaeda and ISIS forces in Syria and of the entire operation. after that the Syrian army can take it more easier ,from there . Still NATO have the Kurds cards, the Turkey card and Israel card. they might commit suicide ,by fighting Russia and Syria. you cannot underestimate their stupidity.

    Turkey and Kurds actually is pain in the neck for US. They will never go together. That´s why Russia is calm about Turkish troops in Syria. In fact Turks are clearing terrain from US allies.. Those who Russia would never bomb...but Turkey czn
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    Post  George1 Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:20 am

    Syrian Civil War: News #9 - Page 31 Vdrtar

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:43 am

    JohninMK wrote:WOW if true.

    99,99% is true Rolling Eyes

    https://www.rt.com/usa/360754-tawon-boyd-police-handling/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    ‘Americans are on our side’: Al-Nusra commander says US arming jihadists via 3rd countries

    US weapons are being delivered to Jabhat Al-Nusra by governments that Washington supports, a militant commander told the German media, adding that American instructors were in Syria to teach how to use the new equipment.

    “Yes, the US supports the opposition [in Syria], but not directly. They support the countries that support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support,” Jabhat al-Nusra unit commander Abu Al Ezz said in an interview with Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger newspaper from the devastated Syrian city of Aleppo.

    When asked if the TOW missiles were initially intended for Jabhat Al-Nusra or if the group obtained them from the moderate Free Syrian Army, the jihadist clarified: “No, the missiles were given to us directly.

    He also said that when Jabhat Al-Nusra was “besieged, we had officers from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and America here… Experts in the use of satellites, rockets, reconnaissance and thermal security cameras.”

    The journalist asked specifically if the US instructors were really present among the jihadists’ ranks and Al Ezz replied: “The Americans are on our side.”
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    Post  Erk Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:20 am

    It's only one testimony, Abu Al Ezz could be making it up, but I don't think so. It all adds to the picture of how the US, NGOs, Gulf states, Israel etc., have been orchestrating their regime change operation in Syria, using manufactured terrorism as the cover story.
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:49 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:
    calm wrote: angry
    The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has mobilized several thousand soldiers in the east Aleppo countryside, as they prepare to attack the Islamic State's defenses near the Kuweires Military Airport.
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-prepares-storm-east-aleppo/

    AL Bab the target perhaps? I believe the Turks/"moderate" rebels and the Kurds were all making it a target. If the SAA take it would could strengthen their defences north of Aleppo perhaps?

    They need to forget about IS

    A MAP TO UNDERSTAND - Here are first and second #Hama regime defenselines. You understand how #Hama is facing its greatest moment
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    all islamists advances in 2012, 2013 and 2014 defeated by regime #NDF flanking them by east. They learned and now taking over area.
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:50 pm

    UPDATE : al-Qarah, Ras al-Hosn, Bayt al-Aswad, Tal Tulaysiyah taken. Salafi - jihadi coalition advancing in Tulaysiyah and Zugbeh.
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:06 pm

    SAA makes progress in Aleppo
    Northern flank of #Aleppo citadel is being liberated / https://twitter.com/Gjoene/status/780736530675556352
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