Syrian Civil War: News #9

Why is Hama such a f*ck up? I mean SAA has the open ground plus air fleet and the terrain is flatish. Is the SAA outnumbered?

JohninMK wrote:This is something I spotted on Twitter last week where there were some photos of a destroyed bridge, I didn't realise that there was a second. This is the US doing what it does best, destroying crucial infrastructure, in this case that that links east and west Syria. Partition here we come so watch for more bridges over the Euphrates to come down when the US doesn't need them anymore. Near Raqqa anyone?

TEHRAN (FNA)- The US-led coalition warplanes launched airstrikes on two main bridges on the Euphrates River in Deir Ezzur province, days after they killed at least 90 Syrian soldiers in an air assault in the same region in Southeastern Syria.

The state news agency’s reporter in Deir Ezzur said Wednesday that the air raids destroyed al-Asharah Bridge that links the river’s two banks in the Eastern part of the province in Southeastern Syria, only few hours after demolishing al-Mayadin Bridge in the same region near the border with Iraq.

The reporter added that the destruction of the two bridges has been aimed at disconnecting the regions on the two eastern and western banks of the river.

This is not strategic problem for Syrian army. US will not bomb twice such a bridge...if Russians build.




BTW of corse not 10 mins but nice example.

VladimirSahin wrote:Why is Hama such a f*ck up? I mean SAA has the open ground plus air fleet and the terrain is flatish. Is the SAA outnumbered?

Judge for yourself...

Leaving tanks and running/fleeing across open field on foot.
https://twitter.com/Interbrigades/status/780805027443142656
Rebels gained 4 armours (3 tanks & 1 BMP) with 1 pick-up in less than one minute.



But i think that Hama is safe for now.
Aleppo is primary objective, when Aleppo falls it's gameover for rebels/terrorists

In reality, Aleppo is targeted because it is Syria’s biggest city and its economic capital – not Damascus. It is also one of the oldest cities in the world with a history and symbolic importance that rivals Damascus in every respect. So long as it is held by the rebels, the opposition can claim a power base every bit as significant as the Syrian capital in Damascus. So long as it stands, the rebels will keep fighting. And, the Russians and President Assad believe that if they capture it then that will be the decisive turning point in the conflict with the non-ISIS opposition. wrote:

... ISIS and non-isis terroris are gone after Aleppo(Not Raqqa, that's a different story)

After Aleppo and east Ghouta, some 50% off SAA is going to bee free for other fronts. Looks like that nonsense about Al Bab from couple days ago is just that, nonsense. SAA manage to capture some points surrounding Shaer gas today, that's all they should do about isis for now. When the time come Deir ez-Zor should be first.

Russian Defense Ministry: Terrorists are preparing strikes with chemical weapons in Aleppo

More:
http://tass.com/politics/902869?_ga=1.55661163.1337049799.1447427261

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

JohninMK wrote:This is something I spotted on Twitter last week where there were some photos of a destroyed bridge, I didn't realise that there was a second. This is the US doing what it does best, destroying crucial infrastructure, in this case that that links east and west Syria. Partition here we come so watch for more bridges over the Euphrates to come down when the US doesn't need them anymore. Near Raqqa anyone?

TEHRAN (FNA)- The US-led coalition warplanes launched airstrikes on two main bridges on the Euphrates River in Deir Ezzur province, days after they killed at least 90 Syrian soldiers in an air assault in the same region in Southeastern Syria.

The state news agency’s reporter in Deir Ezzur said Wednesday that the air raids destroyed al-Asharah Bridge that links the river’s two banks in the Eastern part of the province in Southeastern Syria, only few hours after demolishing al-Mayadin Bridge in the same region near the border with Iraq.

The reporter added that the destruction of the two bridges has been aimed at disconnecting the regions on the two eastern and western banks of the river.

This is not strategic problem for Syrian army. US will not bomb twice such a bridge...if Russians build.




BTW of corse not 10 mins but nice example.

awesome

VladimirSahin wrote:Saudi Arabia wants to arm proxies? Houthis wouldn't mind Iglas tbh.

As we speak...

#SAA/#NDF+Liwa' al-Quds regain fully Control Handarat Camp in N #Aleppo city

Tactics from Mallah farms.

The performance of the SAA should be judged in the context of its jihadi enemies. They aren't all that and Uncle Scam's weapons
supplies will not make them great and able to defeat the SAA. Russian bombing is skewing the battlefield in the SAA's favour. That
is why Uncle Scam is fuming mad.

kvs wrote:The performance of the SAA should be judged in the context of its jihadi enemies.   They aren't all that and Uncle Scam's weapons
supplies will not make them great and able to defeat the SAA.   Russian bombing is skewing the battlefield in the SAA's favour.  That
is why Uncle Scam is fuming mad.

I can't but think how little modern weaponry have US & allies given to Syrian Jihadists.

Some TOWs, maybe a handful of MANPADs, some modern small arms. Not a single modern tank, not a single modern IFV, not a single modern piece of artillery. Not a single aircraft. Not even one platoon of insurgents was trained and equipped to the standards of a western-like mechanized force.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:

kvs wrote:The performance of the SAA should be judged in the context of its jihadi enemies.   They aren't all that and Uncle Scam's weapons
supplies will not make them great and able to defeat the SAA.   Russian bombing is skewing the battlefield in the SAA's favour.  That
is why Uncle Scam is fuming mad.

I can't but think how little modern weaponry have US & allies given to Syrian Jihadists.

Some TOWs, maybe a handful of MANPADs, some modern small arms. Not a single modern tank, not a single modern IFV, not a single modern piece of artillery. Not a single aircraft. Not even one platoon of insurgents was trained and equipped to the standards of a western-like mechanized force.

Artillery is artillery. There is not much technological advance except perhaps range but that is rather limited. If tanks were a big deal in this
primarily guerilla then Russian supplies of T-90s to the SAA would be making a bigger impact. House to house fighting in Aleppo is not where
tanks matter. As for aircraft, the so-called US anti-ISIS coalition has been the ISIS airforce. They have been bombing and in such a way
that undermined the SAA. The recent outright attack is them coming out of the closet. They have been bombing without directly attacking
the SAA but undermining at the same time. If the coalition was actually fighting ISIS it would have bombed the oil tanker truck convoys.
It didn't bomb a single one and claims that this was to save the environment is intellectually insulting nonsense.

Just recently a shell from a rebel tank killed 7 SAA soldiers. If tanks were ineffective, SAA would have long since relegated them to storage and completely switched to mechanized force or even light infantry. But tanks are indisposable help to infantry. US Army avoids using pure armored or mechanized formations and opts for mixed mechanized-tank battle groups.

I never believed the "ISIS airforce argument" simply because the intensity of bombing is nowhere near enough to give ISIS an advantage on operational/strategic scale. A bombing like the one in Deir Ezzor might tip the scale on tactical level for a short time but a much bigger campaign would be needed for real effect - something like 40-50 sorties per day. IF US truly supported ISIS in a meaningful way, much stronger evidence would be available already.

Having modern artillery would be a game changer for the Jihadists, I would say even more so than RuAF has been for SAA. Artillery can deliver higher amounts of orfnance and it cannot be detected as easily. A singlee battery of towed howitzers with guided shells could foil an entire attack by a mechanized company, devasstate defence positions etc. Rocket artillery could be used to strike SAA's rear areas.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Having modern artillery would be a game changer for the Jihadists, I would say even more so than RuAF has been for SAA. Artillery can deliver higher amounts of orfnance and it cannot be detected as easily. A singlee battery of towed howitzers with guided shells could foil an entire attack by a mechanized company, devasstate defence positions etc. Rocket artillery could be used to strike SAA's rear areas.

What you say is very true but there is one serious downside, logistics. Sufficient supply vehicles to support the serious use of artillery make a good target.

Seems the US have sent ground troops to Aleppo.

Handarat plus majority of Kindi hospital area is ours boys let's hope a magical counter offensive doesn't destroy all these gains overnight.

Recently Saudi bastards bought lots of Grad rockets from Bulgaria to kill Russians in Syria. The biggest advantage of those bastards is artillery. IMO if Russians deploy COUNTER BATTERY RADARS in Hama SAA would kick those bastards to hell in no time. Russians clearly haven't taken off their kid gloves. This is what happens when Russians don't have elections to elect a strong smart leader.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:

kvs wrote:The performance of the SAA should be judged in the context of its jihadi enemies.   They aren't all that and Uncle Scam's weapons
supplies will not make them great and able to defeat the SAA.   Russian bombing is skewing the battlefield in the SAA's favour.  That
is why Uncle Scam is fuming mad.

I can't but think how little modern weaponry have US & allies given to Syrian Jihadists.

Some TOWs, maybe a handful of MANPADs, some modern small arms. Not a single modern tank, not a single modern IFV, not a single modern piece of artillery. Not a single aircraft. Not even one platoon of insurgents was trained and equipped to the standards of a western-like mechanized force.

Several factors are at play:

1) Plausible deniability. Jihadis running about with modern (western) weapons will expose US/NATO complicity. Supplying old, mostly ex-Soviet gear sourced from ex-WPact surpluses or new manufactured knockoffs allows the west to deny they are involved.
2) Maximise the terrorists interoperability with looted ammunition/spares from Syrian gov stockpiles.
3) Jihadists are untrustworthy snakes that will bite the hand that feeds them. Give them manpads and sooner or later civilian airliners will be brought down.
4) Cost. The US wants its regime change and it want's it done on the cheap, and/or with others (Saudi, Qatar, Turdkey) paying the lions share.

And now the shit has hit the fan, very hard, "SYRIAN KURDS DEMAND RECOGNITION OF ROJAVA FEDERAL PROJECT & WEAPONS FROM US AS CONDITION TO FIGHT FOR RAQQA".

This is getting very dangerous for Russia, if they go for Al-Raqqa, than what?

https://southfront.org/syrian-kurds-demand-recognition-of-rojava-federal-project-weapons-from-us-as-condition-to-fight-for-raqqa/

par far wrote:And now the shit has hit the fan, very hard, "SYRIAN KURDS DEMAND RECOGNITION OF ROJAVA FEDERAL PROJECT & WEAPONS FROM US AS CONDITION TO FIGHT FOR RAQQA".

This is getting very dangerous for Russia, if they go for Al-Raqqa, than what?

https://southfront.org/syrian-kurds-demand-recognition-of-rojava-federal-project-weapons-from-us-as-condition-to-fight-for-raqqa/

I can see Erdo waving independent Kurdistan flag...otherwise he sends couple of mech divisions to talk to Kurds´reason

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

par far wrote:And now the shit has hit the fan, very hard, "SYRIAN KURDS DEMAND RECOGNITION OF ROJAVA FEDERAL PROJECT & WEAPONS FROM US AS CONDITION TO FIGHT FOR RAQQA".

This is getting very dangerous for Russia, if they go for Al-Raqqa, than what?

https://southfront.org/syrian-kurds-demand-recognition-of-rojava-federal-project-weapons-from-us-as-condition-to-fight-for-raqqa/

I can see Erdo waving independent Kurdistan flag...otherwise he sends couple of mech divisions to talk to Kurds´reason

Is that all they are demanding?

Following the let down by the US after their success in striking West hoping to link Kurdish territory, why would the Kurds attack, as the US's foot soldiers, a far more difficult and non Kurdish target in Raqqa, losing lots of men in the process, to then have to turn round and go back home?

run run scam

KINDI hospital liberated