miketheterrible wrote:https://en.topwar.ru/181672-tehnicheskij-spusk-korvet-proekta-20386-ubrali-iz-jellinga-chtoby-ne-meshal.html
Some strange writing to be honest. They make it sound like they can build the gearbox and engines one or the other. Not saying anything that they can or cannot increase production.
But I think some on authorities are not interested in this ship
This article is shit. Thats not an off-the-cuff comment. Its a considered viewpoint and one that I've settled upon after much thought and due consideration. I could be more verbose in my pronouncements (like in this paragraph..) but I feel that succintness is the best approach in this case.
Hilarious that the author choses to quote other gibberish to apparently suggest that the concept of distributed lethality is somehow a failure. Consider the following:
The main thing that does not suit us is the too high price and excessive armament - the Kalibr cruise missiles, which work against sea and ground targets. Project 20385 does not meet the requirements fleet", - said the interlocutor of the publication. According to him, the estimated cost of one ship is about 14 billion rubles, but in reality it can reach 18 billion. For a corvette with a displacement of 2,2 thousand tons, although made using stealth technology, this is a lot. The equally modern frigates of Project 11356, which are now being built for the Black Sea Fleet, have a displacement of almost twice as much - 4 thousand tons, and cost the same.
The frigates of this project are ships of the open sea, with a significant range, and the corvettes 20385 are intended for the near sea zone. Sailors believe that such a powerful weaponlike "Caliber" to these small ships unnecessarily.
Really? The 11356 is equally modern as the 20385, despite that fact that the 11356 isn't much more than a tarted up Talwar-class with a UKSK system?
If "sailors" think the 20386 doesn't "need" a UKSK system, what does that say about the 21631 Buyan-M? I guess because the guy who peels the potatoes or changes the bedclothes doesn't see why corvettees should be able to sink an enemy destroyer with a supersonic AShM, we should just remove the offending ordance and fit something more "suitable" like a few 75mm guns and a few RBU launchers???
The rest of this shoddy article is just the author puking what seems to be his personal disapproval of the concept of modularised systems, and his pissing and moaning about what he sees as unacceptale compromises.
He yabbers that the 20386 artillery system will be "less effective than that of the old 20380" yet they both have a single A-190 gun.
He complains that the hanger location will require a lift which is "an expensive and technically complex solution" - really? He think a hydraulic lift is complex??
He complains that specialist containers can't have overboard access to the sea without moving the FRC - yeah, so fucking what???
He complains that if a large 40" container is carried, the helo will be displaced from the hangar. Yeah, again so what? Thats the whole fucking idea about modularity. The ships configuration can be adjusted
to match the fucking needs of the mission. If the helo needs to sit on the back of the deck under a tarpauin and only be used when necessary (ie if other ships in the taskforce can't meet a specific operational need) so what? Its a 3,400T hull, not a cruiser. There isn't room for everything at once. The idea is to be able to reconfigure to maximise specific capabilities, and that requires a downgrade in others deemed less important to the mission.
Check out this utter bullshit... /facepalm x 100
A special problem is the placement of the antenna sheets of the radar complex on the sides of the superstructure, which is made of composite materials.
Many experts believe that due to the inevitable deformations of the superstructure when moving in waves, the canvases will “play”, randomly changing their position, which will make accurate shooting impossible.
Wut? This idiot thinks a flat panel array is supported by the outer skin rather than the inner structure? Does he really think the panels will move due to weather effects or vessel motions? Does he really think that Russian naval architechs are so unutterably stupid that they don't know how to mount ships systems to a vessel that uses composities in its construction??? Experts? What "experts" are saying this crappola??
Then we have this little pearl of Sun Tzu-level wisdom:
But even if everything works, nothing will work anyway.
Yeah, I know I'm reading a translation, but even the dumbest literal machine couldn't disguise the empty-headed know-nuffin qualities on display here as he proceeds to lamblast the vessel radar system on no other facts than their location on the superstructure and unsubstaniated "wisdom" from the US and ChiComs. Gods above, i need to marshall my strength to keep reading this nonsensical shit-slurry...
I lost my will to continue as I fought my bodies basic need to expel stomach contents as I read his amateurish and arbitary "critique" on the 20386 powertrain configuration.
Nah, this scribbler-for-hire just doesn't get it, and he is clearly working with an agenda. The question is who is putting bread is his begging bowl and calling his tune?
He's not a Ukrainian by any chance?