Syrian War: News #11

JohninMK wrote:I thought that the SAA had the routes to the south under fire control. Does this mean that the SAA, RuAF etc are not destroying the ISIS convoys etc on their way past?
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It's a big desert and day is young...

So it looks like Turkey and ISIS finally agreed on the price.

This frees up Turks to give Kurds some royal rogering. After their BS with Castello Road I have zero pity for those rats.

If Israel and Russia are "partners" then why does the IAF only bomb SAA positions and kills Pro Assad civilians?

calm wrote:As long as Syria continue to support Hezbollah there will be airstrikes on Syria...

Then why shouldn't Russia bomb Saudi Arabia for supporting chechen wahabbists? Why shouldn't it bomb Canada for suporting Ukrop nazis?

PapaDragon wrote:

JohninMK wrote:I thought that the SAA had the routes to the south under fire control. Does this mean that the SAA, RuAF etc are not destroying the ISIS convoys etc on their way past?
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It's a big desert and day is young...

So it looks like Turkey and ISIS finally agreed on the price.

This frees up Turks to give Kurds some royal rogering. After their BS with Castello Road I have zero pity for those rats.  

This is from VT, it is an interesting view.

Deals being cut, as we speak, between Turkey and ISIS, demonstrate how Erdogan has been playing Syria and Russia, no surprise there. 950 fighters have been withdrawn, aided by the Turkish Army, and are being rearmed and resupplied to be redeployed in Raqqah, according to sources at the front, to fight against the Kurds, an ISIS army still on the Saudi payroll and still being aided by Turkey.

The fight at al Bab has been a farce, we are told, as some fighters with ISIS who have always been controlled by Erdogan will be renamed “FSA” and remain, while the primary military force withdraws. For weeks now, one of NATO’s most powerful armies, with nearly 8000 pieces of armor and over 600,000 including reserves, has been beaten to a standstill, or so we are told, by fewer than 1000 ISIS fighters in the Syrian town of al Bab.

None of this is true, as common sense would tell anyone.

This military force, as large as the one Hitler unleashed on Russia in 1941, isn’t really fighting ISIS at all despite the deals they cut with Russia and Iran. Erdogan is still only concerned about fighting the Kurds.

Idlib gets cooked slowly.

ISIL will be trimmed down by Kurds.

Turks and Kurds bleed each other.

SAA moves further east to Palmyra and DeZ

After a while "FSA" and SAA will be going at it. Kurds will have choice to either rejoin Syria or get thrown to the Turks again.

Turkish military will be packing at that point because even Erdogan is not stupid enough to go against VKS (lest he wants another coup after spanking...)

So that will leave SAA (and Kurds if they still exist at that pont) and "FSA/ISIL combo in the final round.

Looks good to me, no downsides for Russia in this equation.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:

calm wrote:As long as Syria continue to support Hezbollah there will be airstrikes on Syria...

Then why shouldn't Russia bomb Saudi Arabia for supporting chechen wahabbists? Why shouldn't it bomb Canada for suporting Ukrop nazis?

Really?

calm wrote:

KomissarBojanchev wrote:

calm wrote:As long as Syria continue to support Hezbollah there will be airstrikes on Syria...

Then why shouldn't Russia bomb Saudi Arabia for supporting chechen wahabbists? Why shouldn't it bomb Canada for suporting Ukrop nazis?

Really?

This is a valid analogy.

Bombs from bomb bay.....errr torpedo bay

artillery destroyed by precision strikes at a defensive position east of  Palmyra after IS recaptured it
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.581055&lon=38.350310&z=16&m=b


a few precision airstrikes have hit bunkers and aircraft shelters at Tadmur/Palmyra Air Base since IS recaptured it - http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.561036&lon=38.324261&z=15&m=b


the doors of these two shelters at the eastern end of the runway were blown off -
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=34.560683&lon=38.333552&z=16&m=b


two more weapons storage bunkers at the western end of the base (zabranjeno)ed like eggs - http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.560418&lon=38.305142&z=16&m=b


"Near Palmyra, four strikes destroyed seven aircraft shelters and four weapons storage bunkers."
https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1033036/inherent-resolve-strikes-target-isil-in-syria-iraq

US-led Coalition flattened almost all buildings of #ISIS-held #Tabqa Airbase, including hardened aircraft shelters.




Runway of Tabqa Airbase is also totally unoperable, meticulously destroyed by ISIS itself.


ISIS double defense line meticulously targeted by US-led Coalition

PapaDragon wrote:It's a big desert and day is young...

So it looks like Turkey and ISIS finally agreed on the price.

This frees up Turks to give Kurds some royal rogering. After their BS with Castello Road I have zero pity for those rats.  

C'mon, they fired a couple of shots and block Castello for couple of hours. SAA have good relations with Kurds from Afrin and it will be easy to reason with them. They let SAA transport goods to Nubul and Zahra by Helicopters for 2 years, through Afrin. So, good luck to Kurds in fight agains FSA and Turkey. SAA should send them a few dozen of ATGMs, just to remind Turkey what is like to fight against lunatics with TOWs.

And Kurds in Sheikh Maqsood are under control now. RU MP is taking care of that.

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calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:It's a big desert and day is young...

So it looks like Turkey and ISIS finally agreed on the price.

This frees up Turks to give Kurds some royal rogering. After their BS with Castello Road I have zero pity for those rats.  

C'mon, they fired a couple of shots and block Castello for couple of hours. SAA have good relations with Kurds from Afrin and it will be easy to reason with them. They let SAA transport goods to Nubul and Zahra by Helicopters for 2 years, through Afrin. So, good luck to Kurds in fight agains FSA and Turkey. SAA should send them a few dozen of ATGMs, just to remind Turkey what is like to fight against lunatics with TOWs.

And Kurds in Sheikh Maqsood are under control now. RU MP is taking care of that.

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It's not what they did, it's when they did it. It was most sensitive phase of Battle of Aleppo. And for what? Dick move if there ever was one. All they managed to do is to demonstrate that they are no different than Turks. Same product, different package.

I have no problems with them staying in one piece and getting good treatment and something in return but they would be smart to start behaving properly.

They of all people should know that nobody is indispensable.

PapaDragon wrote:

calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:It's a big desert and day is young...

So it looks like Turkey and ISIS finally agreed on the price.

This frees up Turks to give Kurds some royal rogering. After their BS with Castello Road I have zero pity for those rats.  

C'mon, they fired a couple of shots and block Castello for couple of hours. SAA have good relations with Kurds from Afrin and it will be easy to reason with them. They let SAA transport goods to Nubul and Zahra by Helicopters for 2 years, through Afrin. So, good luck to Kurds in fight agains FSA and Turkey. SAA should send them a few dozen of ATGMs, just to remind Turkey what is like to fight against lunatics with TOWs.

And Kurds in Sheikh Maqsood are under control now. RU MP is taking care of that.

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It's not what they did, it's when they did it. It was most sensitive phase of Battle of Aleppo. And for what? Dick move if there ever was one. All they managed to do is to demonstrate that they are no different than Turks. Same product, different package.

I have no problems with them staying in one piece and getting good treatment and something in return but they would be smart to start behaving properly.

They of all people should know that nobody is indispensable.

Nut comments. You say this about the Kurds and you seems to forget who the Syrian Armed Forces were fighting against. They were fighting against FSA. You blame the Kurds for distrubing in the fight of Syria vs the FSA and as then you say:

PapaDragon wrote:After a while "FSA" and SAA will be going at it. Kurds will have choice to either rejoin Syria or get thrown to the Turks again.

like if Syria and the FSA would be now allies against the Kurds.

You are trolling shamelessly.

eehnie wrote:

......They were fighting against FSA. You blame the Kurds for distrubing in the fight of Syria vs the FSA and as then you say:

PapaDragon wrote:After a while "FSA" and SAA will be going at it. Kurds will have choice to either rejoin Syria or get thrown to the Turks again.

like if Syria and the FSA would be now allies against the Kurds.

You are trolling shamelessly.

You may want to look up phrase ''going at it'' before making clumsy accusations.

PapaDragon wrote:

eehnie wrote:

......They were fighting against FSA. You blame the Kurds for distrubing in the fight of Syria vs the FSA and as then you say:

PapaDragon wrote:After a while "FSA" and SAA will be going at it. Kurds will have choice to either rejoin Syria or get thrown to the Turks again.

like if Syria and the FSA would be now allies against the Kurds.

You are trolling shamelessly.

You may want to look up phrase ''going at it'' before making clumsy accusations.

Clumsy your argument about the Kurds. Clumsy, and stupid. Also your comments about Israel in Syria.

Pure posturing and trolling, because you make evident who you defend in reality.

No forces in Syria from different sides can control territory . Apart from national government of Syria and any other national forces at peace with national government . Permanent positioning of external forces will be opposed both by national government and other transnational forces . Since nobody stands to gain by confrontation . And they have avoided it so far . Then they will most probably avoid it in future . So all foreign forces will withdraw . National patriotic forces who advanced against terrorists . Will also withdraw to their starting positions . Kurds for example will withdraw to original positions . All residents have rights to return to original houses and towns . No ethnic cleansing is allowed . No territorial gain by groups accepted . However the Syrian national forces better confront and defeat the weakest groups first . Gaining territory and uniting the country . Confronting the invasive foreign forces last .

"US preparing public opinion for greater military involvement in Iraq, Syria."


This was coming.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/378501-troops-trump-mosul-us-iraq/




"Iraq carries out airstrikes against ISIS targets in Syria – PM statement."

Hopefully this was coordinated with the SAA.


https://www.rt.com/news/378485-iraq-airstrikes-isis-syria/

Russian Military Police on review has ditched all commercial sights and is presenting only Obzor official issue collimators.

https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/834824886824624131/photo/1

Most of these guys were using all kinds of commercial non-sense (C-more/Holosun/fake CRO-MRO).

eehnie wrote:..............

Clumsy your argument about the Kurds. Clumsy, and stupid. Also your comments about Israel in Syria.

Pure posturing and trolling, because you make evident who you defend in reality.

And that would be?

Kurds are making their sponsors proud. Although if I were them I would worry more about north and western part of the front.

PapaDragon wrote:

eehnie wrote:..............

Clumsy your argument about the Kurds. Clumsy, and stupid. Also your comments about Israel in Syria.

Pure posturing and trolling, because you make evident who you defend in reality.

And that would be?

Very clearly Israel. You are clearly loyal to Israel. The rest posturing and trolling.

eehnie wrote:.................

Very clearly Israel. You are clearly loyal to Israel. The rest posturing and trolling.

That is your big conclusion?

You will be hard pressed to find any Serb who is not sympathetic at least to some extent to Israel due to certain shared historical experiences.

You pretty much discovered hot water here...

And how do Jumping Jews of Jerusalem fit into discussion about Kurds if I may ask?

PapaDragon wrote:

eehnie wrote:..............

Clumsy your argument about the Kurds. Clumsy, and stupid. Also your comments about Israel in Syria.

Pure posturing and trolling, because you make evident who you defend in reality.

And that would be?

Please don't feed him.

He's on a parallel universe.

Also the other issue has been the incessant shit the Kurds have been pulling in Hasakah. Castello road wasn't only a dick move, it was a bargaining move because they thought Aleppo was going to be business as usual with the SAA siege being lifted. Well tough luck. Also Kurds keep overplaying their hand.

calm wrote:SDF advance so far.

IS pocket erased.

What you people think about the future of USA-Turkey relations, in relation to the current situation in Syria and USA alliance with the Kurds and Turks. What will happen If Turkey decide to attack Manbij and Raqqa(lol)?

Bab, Manbij, & Raqqa, 3 Syrian cities that will dictate the future of two NATO allies and, I would argue, impact trans-atlantic relations

KoTeMoRe wrote:Also the other issue has been the incessant shit the Kurds have been pulling in Hasakah. Castello road wasn't only a dick move, it was a bargaining move because they thought Aleppo was going to be business as usual with the SAA siege being lifted. Well tough luck. Also Kurds keep overplaying their hand.

And this.

https://twitter.com/AliHa_97/status/835269200323219456

They beytread everyone, even themselves


Today...
Syrian and Russian Airforce saluted General Ali Salim Mahmud who lost his life while defending the Mennagh airbase until his last breath
https://twitter.com/NatDefFor/status/835251628508917761