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    Post  kvs Sat May 13, 2017 8:06 pm

    The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA. It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor. This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA. Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.
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    Post  franco Sat May 13, 2017 8:41 pm

    kvs wrote:The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA.   It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor.   This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA.   Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.

    Meanwhile the rebels in Idlib, East Ghota and Daraa will squabble and continue killing each other.
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    Post  franco Sat May 13, 2017 9:28 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    par far wrote:
    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Given current SAA advance rate, reaching the Iraqi border seems like a long shot. Will reaching the border help Deir Ez-Zor? Why not concentrate absolutely all elite units to advance on East Alleppo and to Deir Ezzor?
    Maybe the SAA will now turn left away from the border having cut the supply road. Or maybe the objective is to join up with the PMU at the border and move northeast together on both sides of the border. Time will tell.

    All out push back of ISIS to the Euphrates, have seen some Syrian reports of a 4 phase offense. Phase 1 basically removes ISIS from the provinces of Aleppo, Hamas and Hom's.

    What Phase are we on now, it feels like nothing is happening for the SAA. They need to begin the offensive on Deir Ezzor has to begin soon, they need to make significant progress in Southern Syria.

    Assuming the SAA can do this and make it to Deir Ezzor without any opposition group wanting to take advantage of such thin lines, they will have little manpower left at that point that they can spare and it would neuter any ability for anymore large-scale offenses unless Assad suddenly got like 60k more men

    The Russians continue to train new units and upgrade plus reorganize the present units:

    - 4th Corps based on the 103rd Republican Guard, Marines and other units from Latakia and Tartus was the first.
    - 5th Corps based on units in Al Suwayda and Damascus plus new units. Have read the total force of ~10,000 so far includes 2,000 ex-rebels.
    - Tiger Force has been expanded to include most of the Special Forces units.
    - 30th Republican Guard division in Aleppo created from the 102nd and 106th brigades plus other Army units.
    - 101st (Security) and 105th Republican Guard brigades defend Damascus.
    - 4th Army division, the nation fire "brigade" with the 42nd brigade in Damascus and the 39th plus the 41st continuing the fight in Northern Hamas. (my understanding is there is a 4th brigade... maybe in reserve. Division commanded by Assad's kid brother)

    All of these groupings now have Russian supported training units graduating up to 1,000 new recruits each every 3-4 months. Plus the training centers for regular army and NDF (militia) units.

    The Daraa/Quneitra/Al Suwayda provinces are home to the 1st Corps SAA and it's 4 divisions (-) could use some TLC for the next area of focus IMO.

    Honorable mention to the troops at Deir ez-Zor comprised of the 104th Republican Guard brigade (airborne) and the remnants of the 17th SAA division as an effective fighting force.

    Just as a side note have not heard any news, since Aleppo was liberated, of the Desert Hawks which although a private militia was one of the most effective Syrian units.
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    Post  kvs Sun May 14, 2017 12:28 am

    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA.   It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor.   This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA.   Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.

    Meanwhile the rebels in Idlib, East Ghota and Daraa will squabble and continue killing each other.

    So what? Is your claim that they will not give the SAA any problems in the future? On what basis?
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 14, 2017 12:53 am

    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA.   It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor.   This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA.   Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.

    Meanwhile the rebels in Idlib, East Ghota and Daraa will squabble and continue killing each other.

    So what?  Is your claim that they will not give the SAA any problems in the future?  On what basis?  

    He is saying that they are bleeding each other dry currently and can be put on back burner while SAA handles some more immediate matters before focusing back on rebels later.
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    Post  Benya Sun May 14, 2017 2:06 am

    SYRIAN MILITARY DEPLOYS REINFORCEMENTS TO DEIR EZZOR – REPORTS

    The Syrian military is reportedly deploying reinforcements to the city of Deir Ezzor besieged by ISIS terrorists. The reinforcements arrive the Deir Ezzor military airport via aircraft.

    Some sources link the deployment of the reinforcements with the expected government advance on Deir Ezzor from the direction of Palmyra.

    Alleged photo of Syrian troops on the way to Deir Ezzor via a Il-76 plane was released by the Twitter account “SyriaWarReports” run by Russian reporters Dmitrii Zhavoronkov and Roman Saponkov:

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    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/syrian-military-deploys-reinforcements-to-deir-ezzor/



    Good to hear that they can airlift troops to Deir Ez-Zor, this means that ISIS doesn't have MANPADS there. BTW they can still open fire on landing aircraft with ZU-23-2 heavy anti-aircraft machine guns and other HMGs.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun May 14, 2017 2:11 am

    franco wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    par far wrote:
    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Given current SAA advance rate, reaching the Iraqi border seems like a long shot. Will reaching the border help Deir Ez-Zor? Why not concentrate absolutely all elite units to advance on East Alleppo and to Deir Ezzor?
    Maybe the SAA will now turn left away from the border having cut the supply road. Or maybe the objective is to join up with the PMU at the border and move northeast together on both sides of the border. Time will tell.

    All out push back of ISIS to the Euphrates, have seen some Syrian reports of a 4 phase offense. Phase 1 basically removes ISIS from the provinces of Aleppo, Hamas and Hom's.

    What Phase are we on now, it feels like nothing is happening for the SAA. They need to begin the offensive on Deir Ezzor has to begin soon, they need to make significant progress in Southern Syria.

    Assuming the SAA can do this and make it to Deir Ezzor without any opposition group wanting to take advantage of such thin lines, they will have little manpower left at that point that they can spare and it would neuter any ability for anymore large-scale offenses unless Assad suddenly got like 60k more men

    The Russians continue to train new units and upgrade plus reorganize the present units:

    - 4th Corps based on the 103rd Republican Guard, Marines and other units from Latakia and Tartus was the first.
    - 5th Corps based on units in Al Suwayda and Damascus plus new units. Have read the total force of ~10,000 so far includes 2,000 ex-rebels.
    - Tiger Force has been expanded to include most of the Special Forces units.
    - 30th Republican Guard division in Aleppo created from the 102nd and 106th brigades plus other Army units.
    - 101st (Security) and 105th Republican Guard brigades defend Damascus.
    - 4th Army division, the nation fire "brigade" with the 42nd brigade in Damascus and the 39th plus the 41st continuing the fight in Northern Hamas. (my understanding is there is a 4th brigade... maybe in reserve. Division commanded by Assad's kid brother)

    All of these groupings now have Russian supported training units graduating up to 1,000 new recruits each every 3-4 months. Plus the training centers for regular army and NDF (militia) units.

    The Daraa/Quneitra/Al Suwayda provinces are home to the 1st Corps SAA and it's 4 divisions (-) could use some TLC for the next area of focus IMO.

    Honorable mention to the troops at Deir ez-Zor comprised of the 104th Republican Guard brigade (airborne) and the remnants of the 17th SAA division as an effective fighting force.

    Just as a side note have not heard any news, since Aleppo was liberated, of the Desert Hawks which although a private militia was one of the most effective Syrian units.    

    I am in syria Assad did not get enough manpower to spare (I would have heard about it) so he is taking a huge risk moving on Deir.

    Maybe it will work out for him I dunno, I do know we want ISIS to flee Raqqa (This is why we left that route open) and with that added man power take the city so we can recapture. The kurds are being pushed to commence the attacked sooner than they want to.

    You don't need to be an expert to see this tho.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 14, 2017 2:26 am


    Assad is not the one calling the shots on this one so I assume there are some other factors in play

    But general consensus is that they will be straightening the frontlines in parallel (eg between those two bodies of water), playing nice with Kurds and grinding down pockets in Damascus and other places thus freeing up manpower.

    ISIS will definitely be making a run for DeZ hence this ops. Valid play there from coalition and something that needs to be mitigated by SAA and VKS of course. Hopefully an aerial ambushes on ISIS while en route are in the works.

    And I am not surprised that Kurds are not in a hurry. Given the geopolitics at play they are basically charging towards their own redundancy and expiration date.
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    Post  kvs Sun May 14, 2017 2:47 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA.   It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor.   This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA.   Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.

    Meanwhile the rebels in Idlib, East Ghota and Daraa will squabble and continue killing each other.

    So what?  Is your claim that they will not give the SAA any problems in the future?  On what basis?  

    He is saying that they are bleeding each other dry currently and can be put on back burner while SAA handles some more immediate matters before focusing back on rebels later.

    Then he should prove it. We hear lots about these bleedings but I see little evidence of any implosion of the "rebels".
    Given that the "rebels", Daesh, white helmets, etc. are all brazen allies it is more than likely that the bleedings are internal
    house cleanings to get rid of any elements that may want to settle with Assad instead of going to their 72 goat virgins.
    So he has offered a big fat zero to demonstrate that Idlib will be some sort of cakewalk after the bleedings are over.
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    Post  franco Sun May 14, 2017 4:00 am

    kvs wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The empty desert zone nominally attributed to Daesh control is a soft target for the SAA.   It would be better to clean up Idlib but
    the Americans are setting the agenda by threatening to partition the country with a likely grab of Deir ez-Zor.   This is forcing the
    move east by the SAA.   Once again Uncle Scumbag is helping the terrorists.

    Meanwhile the rebels in Idlib, East Ghota and Daraa will squabble and continue killing each other.

    So what?  Is your claim that they will not give the SAA any problems in the future?  On what basis?  

    He is saying that they are bleeding each other dry currently and can be put on back burner while SAA handles some more immediate matters before focusing back on rebels later.

    Then he should prove it.   We hear lots about these bleedings but I see little evidence of any implosion of the "rebels".
    Given that the "rebels", Daesh, white helmets, etc. are all brazen allies it is more than likely that the bleedings are internal
    house cleanings to get rid of any elements that may want to settle with Assad instead of going to their 72 goat virgins.  
    So he has offered a big fat zero to demonstrate that Idlib will be some sort of cakewalk after the bleedings are over.

    I don't come on here to argue but where in blazes did I say they would implode or even bleed dry. Heck, I don't even claim I believe they will be able to push out ISIS as per their plans before the other Islamist attack again.


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    Post  franco Sun May 14, 2017 4:13 am

    I am in syria Assad did not get enough manpower to spare (I would have heard about it) so he is taking a huge risk moving on Deir.

    Maybe it will work out for him I dunno, I do know we want ISIS to flee Raqqa (This is why we left that route open) and with that added man power take the city so we can recapture. The kurds are being pushed to commence the attacked sooner than they want to.

    You don't need to be an expert to see this tho.


    This has been a long war so far and will continue to be a longer war. It is one of attrition which is advantage to the Government side and comprised of a whole lot of baby steps. My comments were to that direction (successful baby steps). You are correct in that the SAA is weak and stretched, but assume that the West is applying restraint on the other Islamist's to allow the Russians with Assad to assist with the "holy grail" of defeating the ISIS. And even if only a part of this is successful at this time...then more successful baby steps.
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    Post  calm Sun May 14, 2017 6:29 am

    Pro-regime Hussain Murtada: 'The Assad regime and JaI (& other Astana factions) will fight HTS together in the near future.'
    https://twitter.com/abu_saeed2017/status/863506719980310532
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 14, 2017 8:32 am

    calm wrote:Pro-regime Hussain Murtada: 'The Assad regime and JaI (& other Astana factions) will fight HTS together in the near future.'
    https://twitter.com/abu_saeed2017/status/863506719980310532

    Jane the Virgin ain't got nothing on these guys lol1
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun May 14, 2017 10:09 am

    calm wrote:Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 C_tQRsLXYAAJ_4b

    Any ideas on how the Empire explains away the existance of an ISIS enclave nestled alongside Zio-occupied Golan, US-satrap Jordan, and US-backed terror groups? If the US was so intent on defeating ISIS, why are these goat-fuckers still breathing? Why doesn't the Corporae MSM ask these qustions?

    I know the answers already, but its frustrating to ses the establishment ignoring this slam-dunk proof of the falsity of the US-mandated narrative.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 14, 2017 3:17 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:

    Any ideas on how the Empire explains away the existance of an ISIS enclave nestled alongside Zio-occupied Golan, US-satrap Jordan, and US-backed terror groups? If the US was so intent on defeating ISIS, why are these goat-fuckers still breathing? Why doesn't the Corporae MSM ask these qustions?

    I know the answers already, but its frustrating to ses the establishment ignoring this slam-dunk proof of the falsity of the US-mandated narrative.[/quote]
    Yup, perfect opportunity for the Israeli Army to wizz over the border and sit in another bit of Syria. Mind you, a reason not to is that they don't want to fill up their hospitals with more 'humanitarian' patients.
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    Post  Benya Sun May 14, 2017 6:33 pm

    MILITANTS ARE ON RUN AS GOVERNMENT FORCES PREPARE MORE OPERATIONS IN DAMASCUS COUNTRYSIDE

    Yesterday, defenses of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda), Ahrar al-Sham and their allies collapsed in the so-called Qaboun pocket in eastern Damascus. As a result, the Syrian Arab Army and its allies got a full control over Tishreen and Qaboun.

    A part of militants accepted a withdrawal deal and started evacuation on Sunday. Another part had withdrawn from the area via undground tunnels.

    Following the liberation of Qaboun, the network of undeground tunnels in the area poses a main threat to civilians and government fighters. Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) and other “moderate rebels” will likely attempt to use it for suicide bombing attacks against civilian and military targets. This is why, the Syrian military’s main task is to destroy this network and to secure the area.

    As soon as this is done government forces will likely focus on liberating the area of Jobar south of Qaboun. Jobar is a legetimate tagrget for government military operations because HTS (an internationally designated terrorist group) and its allies keep control over this district.

    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 1187

    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/militants-are-on-run-as-government-forces-prepare-more-operations-in-damascus-countryside/
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    Post  kvs Sun May 14, 2017 7:29 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    calm wrote:Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 C_tQRsLXYAAJ_4b

    Any ideas on how the Empire explains away the existance of an ISIS enclave nestled alongside Zio-occupied Golan, US-satrap Jordan, and US-backed terror groups? If the US was so intent on defeating ISIS, why are these goat-fuckers still breathing? Why doesn't the Corporae MSM ask these qustions?

    I know the answers already, but its frustrating to ses the establishment ignoring this slam-dunk proof of the falsity of the US-mandated narrative.

    The main problem is that the NATO sheep are all credulous. They don't think to question the narratives. So the job for CNN, BBC, CBC, etc. is
    very easy: just spin, spin, spin. The fake news hysteria is an attempt to herd the sheep away from sources that produce such maps and point
    out the obvious. If CNN didn't report it, then it didn't happen. As in the case of the Odessa massacre.
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    Post  calm Sun May 14, 2017 7:53 pm

    SAA have captured Jirah, IS resisting hard on that front.
    Analysis of IS tactics and propaganda from battle for AB.



    SAA captured Al-Maamoura Tall Mahdum, and buildings/village(red) alongside N4 Highway
    Also hit by IS drone and 2 SVBIEDs at Jirah perimeter

    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 C_fbczVXUAIPnKzSyrian War: News #12 - Page 33 C_fbfn-XkAAQZY2

    IS release some photos today, but in fact all of them were taken few days ago.
    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 QCL45BcSyrian War: News #12 - Page 33 C_yO-PfW0AEZafn
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun May 14, 2017 10:23 pm



    SyAF jets and choppers targeting US & Jordan backed rebels in Bir al Qassab


    https://twitter.com/NatDefFor/status/863743987349413889
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    Post  Guest Sun May 14, 2017 10:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Looks like Russian bunker buster are working so well that the 'hit the hospital' scam has to be re-employed in Idlib. All the familiar names are there adding their pennyworth.

    https://twitter.com/Malinka1102/status/855883289558646787


    And how about this weapon, UR-77? Video at link

    https://twitter.com/hamza_780/status/855889837077016577

    UR-77 is mine clearing system. It was used however more than once as fortification breaching system. And its not the first time its used in Syria as such.
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    Post  Guest Sun May 14, 2017 10:38 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Given current SAA advance rate, reaching the Iraqi border seems like a long shot. Will reaching the border help Deir Ez-Zor? Why not concentrate absolutely all elite units to advance on East Alleppo and to Deir Ezzor?

    Not enough manpower, easy answer. Check map and see how long those supply and frontlines would be. They probably could do that, but then would just end up with more people incircled.
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    Post  calm Mon May 15, 2017 2:33 am

    Deir-ezzor is a long term strategy. SAA needs to clear central Syria, so Homs/Hama and Aleppo countryside. Because when ISIS is finished in Iraq and Raqqa, they will pour to central Syria on SAA back, in the same time Jordan/US supported forces are making a push in south Syria, squizing ISIS even more in central Syria.

    Here, illustration.
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    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 Oxk26Dd

    This was the plan, no doubt, to capture all populated places along Euphrates and force IS to capture Deir-ezzor, after that Kurds of Rebels would recaptur it. And remnants of IS would pour in central Syria to attack SAA, just in that time Rebel would launch some attacks on Aleppo and Hama to make life harder for SAA.
    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 7BwyLD2

    So, SAA is forced to act. Russian somehow magically manage to achieve the deal with Turkey about de-escalation zones, Syrians should be grateful for that. Now they have a chance to do something.
    We all saw how Rebels from Jordan  have magically capture huge area of desert in the South. And how SAA overnight launched an attack, without media coverage(like every attack before). They are rushing to capture Al Tafan border crosing with Iraq, where US/Jordan and UK SoF are embedded with rebels. That road is important from other reasons to, it's a shortest land route to Baghdad. But it will be interesting to see US reaction when SAA reach their positions. Another fear of US is that Iraqi Shia militias will pour to Syria after that. Some sources claim something like that.

    So, SAA need to clear Aleppo Homs and Hama cs, and to cut road in south.

    Something like this.
    It's still not ideal, IS will go to Deir-ezzor, but this time SAA will follow them, not Kurds or Rebels, all the way to Deir-ezzor. It's possible the last battle for IS.
    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 P9I5H6z
    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 33 UBeKIuE

    One article to back this up


    Moscow and Damascus prepare their respective forces – and those of their allies – to initiate aggressive multi-objective battles directed towards the Syrian-Iraqi borders (and towards Deir-ezzour). These take place at the same time as the Iraqi forces initiate a battle not far from the Syrian borders, in the Iraqi western desert, as Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi has announced.

    The new Iraqi battles – supported by the US and coalition forces – aim to secure the border triangle up to the Jordanian borders or Ratba, including the Iraqi-Syrian borders once the cities of Ana and Rawa are liberated. Other battles, without coalition support, are expected to be carried out by the Iraqi forces of “Hashd al-Sha’bi” (Popular Mobilisation Units- PMU), heading towards al-Ba’aj, and closing all routes between Iraq and Syria.

    The various battles on both sides of the borders have another objective: to protect the backs of the US forces and their Syrian proxies present at al-Tanaf crossing (on the Syrian side). This also helps to meet the advance of the US Special Operation Forces and the Kurds of the “Syrian Democratic Forces” (SDF) advancing towards al-Qaem and already only dozens of kilometres from their objective.

    These advances will put the “Islamic State” group (ISIS) between two fires on both sides of the Syrian and the Iraqi borders: militants will have no other alternative but to fight or die, to surrender or escape into the Anbar and Syrian deserts. Other may seek refuge with al-Qaeda group (under the name of Hay’atTahrir al-Sham) – also facing serious extermination once ISIS is wiped out from the territories it has controlled since 2014.

    On the other hand, Moscow, Damascus and Tehran, including all their respective allies, have started multi-front battles in the east south, middle and north of Syria to counter the US plans. A large number of allies’ forces were pushed into the front line to prepare for the forthcoming battle against the US and their proxies on the various fronts:

    -The Deir-ezzour front: Both Washington and Moscow announced their will to reach the besieged city of Deir-ezzour (each for its own purpose and with its own allied forces), to break ISIS lines surrounding the city. Nevertheless, the US’s chances are slim because the Syrian Army and its allies have defended the north-eastern city for years, preventing it from falling into the hands of ISIS or any other force advancing towards the city. Therefore it is most likely that Moscow will imposes the momentum in the area, otherwise it may not be possible to avoid a military confrontation between the two superpowers. Neither Washington nor Moscow seem ready to be dragged into a larger war over the control of one Syrian city.


    -Towards al-Tanaf crossing: There are already US Special Operation Forces and their Syrian proxies present on the Syrian-Iraqi crossing point. Al-Tanaf is situated in a large open desert, used only as a border point between the two countries. Moscow is also determined to reach it and recover it, with the support of its allied ground forces, putting Washington again in an awkward situation. The US has to coordinate with Russia or it will be forced to pull out from al-Tanaf, even if its Syrian proxies decide to hold and defend their position. Al-Tanaf represents another issue from the logistics point of view: the forces who control it need regular logistics and supply lines, weapons and vital survival support. This will be a challenge for any force willing to occupy it.

    -Al Badiya al-Surya (The Syrian steppe): On this front, the US-Jordanian proxies are advancing from the provinces of Daraa and Suweida southeast Syria in the Syrian semi-desert steppe. The Syrian Army started its air bombing on these forces to prevent them from advancing towards al-Tanaf or to close with the Syrian Army troops in Palmyra (Tadmur). Once more, the US and Russia (along with Damascus and Tehran) are confronting each other on Syrian soil: too many dangerously conflicting areas and interests.

    Thus, under the title “defeating ISIS”, the multiple battles and the confrontation of forces present themselves fundamentally as a confrontation between the two superpowers. There are Special Operation Forces of both Russia and the US in Syria where both support their proxies, guide their military operations, call for air support, coordinate with their respective operation rooms and- ultimately-  end up facing each other.

    The forthcoming battles will be taking place outside the “de-conflict zones” agreed by Moscow, Ankara and Tehran in Astana-Kazakhstan (with US representatives acting as observers). The Syrian steppes, Deir-ezzour, al-Tanaf, al-Qaem and Raqqah were all excluded from the deal. Moscow is giving its priority to the “borders battle” – responding also to the will of the allies that form the “axis of the resistance” –following the visit of the Iraqi PMU Leader, Faleh al-Fay’yad, who informed Damascus and Beirut (Hezbollah) about the Prime Minister Abadi’s plans “suggested” by the Americans.

    This is why – according to sources within the Prime Minister’s office – Baghdad started the Tanaf – Qaem – Ba’aj battle, following pressure exerted by the US military command stationed in Iraq. Such a request rings bells among the leadership in Syria, confirming that Washington is preparing for the phase after the war to spread its control into various territories in Syria, including border areas, under the pretext of “defeating ISIS”. This Salafi-Jihadi group is in its final chapter and everybody in Mesopotamia and Bilad al-Sham is racing to take over its territories. ISIS, the once glorious that broke the Sykes-Picot borders and occupied vast territories in 2014 is crumbling on all fronts!

    Thus, these military operations with multiple objectives will aim to draw a line between the two superpowers in Syria, hinting in effect that the war is going to end, although al-Qaeda (Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham) can still play a destructive role. This group has been excluded from any deal, even if the city it is mainly occupying has been included in the de-conflict areas (as requested by Turkey and agreed by Damascus, Russia and Tehran). However, al-Qaeda itself rejected the Astana deal and considered any rebel group signing the deal worthy of being killed on the spot.

    It is not the first time that both Russia and the US are racing for the control of a single territory (cf. Berlin at the end of the second World War). This race today emphasises that Syria will no doubt face partition. Nevertheless, the presence of occupation forces on its land doesn’t mean these will be spared: Tehran, Damascus and Hezbollah all vow to attack these forces. Would Russia allow this to happen to the US forces or it would just sit back and watch its opponent get hit in Bilad al-Sham?

    The “axis of resistance” has other projects and objectives too, starting from dealing with the Israeli forces on the occupied Golan heights to the US forces in the northeast and east of Syria, not forgetting the danger both ISIS and al-Qaeda still represent, even if they are defeated in Syria. Stability in the Middle East is still far from being achieved.

    https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/05/11/the-us-russia-race-in-syria-towards-a-military-confrontation/
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    Post  par far Mon May 15, 2017 4:11 am

    This is a very critical time for Syria, hopefully Iran sent's more troops and Special Forces to Syria. There are talks of Iran sending more troops to Syria but I don't think much will come out of it.


    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-considering-deploying-ground-forces-counter-us-intervention-syria-reports-779276464



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    Post  calm Mon May 15, 2017 5:04 am

    'US' SOF with FSA engaging IS in Southern Syria desert. Could be Norwegians/Brit w/ them too because they are known to be in the area



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    Post  franco Mon May 15, 2017 5:08 am

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    Nice map work. Thanks for the post.

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