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    Syrian War: News #12

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:54 pm

    This was really not supposed to happen, the WH will be spitting blood and whoever paid for it might be a bit miffed as well. If they don't shut this down there are going to be quite a few with egg on their faces. Why? Well that MIT professor has gone into more depth with his findings, analysing wind direction etc and the link is the 13 page pdf of those findings.

    It really does show that those trying to get false flag operations to stick more than the first few days are going to seriously up their game. Sloppy jobs like this won't make the grade any more.

    Overview

    This analysis contains a detailed description of the times and locations of critical events in the alleged nerve agent attack of April 4, 2017 in Khan Shaykhun, Syria – assuming that the White House Intelligence Report (WHR) issued on April 11, 2017 correctly identified the alleged sarin release site.

    Analysis using weather data from the time of the attack shows that a small hamlet about 300 m to the east southeast of the crater could be the only location affected by the alleged nerve agent release.  Video data of suffocating and dead victims lying on the ground shows a different location from the predicted sarin dispersal site if it had been correctly identified by the White House.

    The conclusion is that the nerve agent attack described in the White House Intelligence Report did not occur as claimed.

    There may well have been mass casualties from some kind of poisoning event, but that event was not the one described by the WHR.

    The findings of this expanded analysis can serve two important purposes:

    It shows exactly what needs to be determined in an international investigation of this alleged atrocity. In particular, if an international investigation can determine where casualties from the nerve agent attack lived, it will confirm that the findings reported by the White House Report are incompatible with its own cited data.

    It also establishes that the White House Report did not utilize simple and widely agreed upon intelligence analysis procedures to determine its conclusions.

    This raises troubling questions about how the US political and military leadership determined that the Syrian government was responsible for the alleged attack.  It is particularly of concern that the White House Report presented itself as a report with “high confidence” findings and that numerous high-level officials in the US government have confirmed their belief that the report was correct and executed to a standard of high confidence.



    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-co...Optimized_.pdf
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:27 am

    Raqqa area map

    Ian Grant‏ @Gjoene 1h1 hour ago

    Quick map update: #SDF #Kurds broke #IS defensive line north of #Raqqa and captured numerous villages, incl Hitash, Ruhayyat..


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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:31 am

    BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:45 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has formed a new brigade in southwest Syria that will specifically lead the Golan Heights offensive against the jihadist rebels, a source told Al-Masdar News on Wednesday evening.

    The unit is comprised of more than 1,000 soldiers from the Al-Quneitra Governorate and neighboring provinces; they will be known as the “Southern Shield Brigade.”

    According to a military source, they were trained by the Russian Marines and Air Force Intelligence; they will fall directly under the command of the latter, which is different from other units in the Syrian Army.

    One of their first operations will be the offensive to retake the key town of Beit Jinn, which is located at the provincial borders of Damascus and Al-Quneitra.


    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/al-masdar-exclusive-syrian-army-forms-new-brigade-lead-golan-heights-offensive/
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    Post  calm Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:20 am

    [quote="BKP"]
    calm wrote:
    Noticed  that this munition usually detonates at or slightly above the target ground, but sometimes there's a substantial pause between the landing and detonation. Is it set to burrow into the ground in those instances? Since it's parachute-bourne, I wouldn't think it would have sufficient velocity to do that, but I have no idea.

    Those are Thermobaric ODAB-500.
    Take a look at 1:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNosdkqK1w

    but sometimes there's a substantial pause between the landing and detonation
    You probably got that impression because of terrain, they landing behind the hills. Or i am wrong.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:35 am


    You are not wrong, definitely behind the hills.

    Also it is filmed from quite a distance, notice the delay between explosion and sound.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:04 am

    Those parachute retarded bombs are designed for low altitude high speed release so a very fast moving aircraft flying at very low altitude can drop powerful ordinance but still have time to get out of range of the explosion so they don't damage themselves.

    As mentioned they are thermobaric bombs, which are rather powerful for their weight.
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    Post  calm Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:22 pm

    SAA recapturing ground lost in 2016 Hama offensive

    Syrian Army recaptures Tayyibat Al-Imam.
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    Post  calm Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:31 pm

    TOS-1A striking Al-Lataminah

    But how? Al-Lataminah is on edge of TOS range(6km).


    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 18 C92eZ3QXkAUZNB9

    There were tests for new long range missile (up to 10 km) for TOS-1A
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:44 pm

    calm wrote:TOS-1A striking Al-Lataminah

    But how? Al-Lataminah is on edge of TOS range(6km).
    ................

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C92eZ3QXkAUZNB9.jpg

    There were tests for new long range missile (up to 10 km) for TOS-1A
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C92gEsJWsAEt33p.jpg

    Totally not surprised if true, Russia has been giving entire Syrian Wahabbi zone The Kamchatka Testing Ground treatment for 2 year now....   lol1 russia
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    Post  calm Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:39 pm

    GarryB wrote:Those parachute retarded bombs are designed for low altitude high speed release so a very fast moving aircraft flying at very low altitude can drop powerful ordinance but still have time to get out of range of the explosion so they don't damage themselves.
    As mentioned they are thermobaric bombs, which are rather powerful for their weight.
    Al-Lataminah, nice video abut that lol1


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    Post  A Different Voice Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:24 pm

    Tests have shown that Sarin or similar nerve agent was used in the Syrian town of Khan Sheykhun, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said in a press release. Based on testing of the dead and survivors of the incident.

    More:
    http://tass.com/world/942201

    OPCW confirms sarin at Khan Sheykhun  
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    Post  calm Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:34 pm

    Tebat Emam .. Before Storm
    Suspect
    https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/855065675051798529
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:08 pm

    Syrian War: News #12 - Page 18 Sarin10
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    Post  max steel Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:10 pm

    "ADMS" Pechora-2M "hit  the latest US drone the MQ-1" the Predator "in Syria

    http://vpk-news.ru/news/36345

    Syrian air defenses in the sky in the north of the province of Latakia found a strange aircraft. The target was fired upon, destroy it.

    Competent US authorities were forced to confirm that around 17:40 GMT (19 hours and 40 minutes of Damascus time) lost contact with the remote-controlled aircraft the MQ-1 «Predator», flying in north-west Syria.

    "According to the Turkish media,« Predator »was flying with the US Air Force base in Incirlik in Turkey, which was based 4 of US drones in recent years.

    "The MQ-1, apparently was hit by" Pechora-2M ", as close to the crash site of the wreckage of an American spy was discovered by anti-aircraft rocket boosters of this complex. Everything indicated that the Syrians lacked a rocket ", - said Yuri Ljamin.


    Armed Syrian armed forces are made up of 12 of the modernized complex "Pechora-2M". At present, they "learned" time to shoot down a variety of objects, including cruise missiles and aircraft "Stealth" Modified missiles were able to "catch up" targets flying at a speed of 1000 m / s at a height of 20 m to 25 km, at a distance 28 km.

    The complex used modern digital technology, which greatly improved the ability to detect the attacking aircraft. Moreover, flush job option entered thermal channel, which allows, without revealing themselves, pinpoint enemy.

    Minsk chassis MZKT-8021 significantly increased the mobility characteristics: SAM is moving at speeds up to 60 km / h, very quickly change position and go from retaliation.

    The only problem is that these systems are not too many, and they can not take control of all the country's airspace.



    That's my photo. Austin and I just shared your post lol1
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:20 pm


    #SAA captured Taibat al-Imam town im #Hama Governorate. #AlQaeda and allied militant groups launched a counterattack. #Syria

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:44 pm



    Interesting analysis.
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    Post  BKP Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:02 pm

    Thx for replies re: ODAB-500.

    GarryB wrote:Those parachute retarded bombs are designed for low altitude high speed release so a very fast moving aircraft flying at very low altitude can drop powerful ordinance but still have time to get out of range of the explosion so they don't damage themselves.

    As mentioned they are thermobaric bombs, which are rather powerful for their weight.

    So that's the purpose of the parachutes, to give the planes enough time to get aaway from the shockwave? Wow, anyone in underground structures, tunnels etc. is most definitely fooked then... jeeze louise.
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    Post  Isos Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:59 pm

    BKP wrote:Thx for replies re: ODAB-500.

    GarryB wrote:Those parachute retarded bombs are designed for low altitude high speed release so a very fast moving aircraft flying at very low altitude can drop powerful ordinance but still have time to get out of range of the explosion so they don't damage themselves.

    As mentioned they are thermobaric bombs, which are rather powerful for their weight.

    So that's the purpose of the parachutes, to give the planes enough time to get aaway from the shockwave? Wow, anyone in underground structures, tunnels etc. is most definitely fooked then... jeeze louise.

    The parachute makes them explode verticaly on the ground for max effect at the expense of precision that's why they are flying low.
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:55 am

    A Different Voice wrote:Tests have shown that Sarin or similar nerve agent was used in the Syrian town of Khan Sheykhun, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) said in a press release. Based on testing of the dead and survivors of the incident.

    More:
    http://tass.com/world/942201

    OPCW confirms sarin at Khan Sheykhun  

    Any organization affiliated with NATO has little credibility. I want to see video of them gathering the samples themselves from the
    relevant locations. Not second hand claims that they "got" the samples without noting that it was the jihadis that provided them
    since the white helmets are so credible and they won an Oscar too.

    https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/sarin#section=IUPAC-Name

    Another issue is the long time between the alleged dispersal and the gathering of the samples. Being a VOC, sarin is chemically attacked
    by OH, O3 and UV photons to form various organic daughter products. It can also autoxidize by reacting with O2. So it is dubious they
    gathered sarin from any outside location. This leaves only the dead bodies as sample sources. That right there already puts into the
    question the whole sampling operation. If the OPCW was interested in facts, and not propaganda like WADA, it would have obtained
    samples directly soon after the event. No excuses about travel time or other BS for the delay.

    The final fact necessary for this obvious fact-free NATO agit-prop post is that the "rebels" i.e. jihadis were supplied Libyan sarin by
    Hillary Clinton. So the jihadis can stage all sorts of samples in all sorts of bodies for the OPCW and the rest of the NATO hyena pack
    to "fret" about.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:43 am

    what makes it even more suspicious about all of this, is the fact that western countries blocked the proposal for a UN lead investigation into the use of chemical weapons in Syria. If they have nothing to hide, then they wouldn't have blocked an independent, international lead, investigation.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:29 am

    Wiki wrote:The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) is an intergovernmental organisation, located in The Hague, Netherlands.

    The organisation promotes and verifies the adherence to the Chemical Weapons Convention which prohibits the use of chemical weapons and requires their destruction. The verification consists both of evaluation of declarations by member states and on-site inspections.

    The activities of the OPCW and its core organisational structure are described in the Chemical Weapons Convention (whose members are all in OPCW). The principal body is the Conference of the States parties

    Wiki U.N wrote:The OPCW is not an agency of the United Nations, but cooperates both on policy and practical issues. On 7 September 2000 the OPCW and the United Nations signed a co-operation agreement outlining how they were to co-ordinate their activities. Under this agreement, the OPCW reports to the UN General Assembly.

    Interesting, so basically we have a WADA situation here, and as a bonus, this agency is currently being headed by a Turk, Ahmet Üzümcü..... great. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  storm333 Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:29 am

    It's been reported that the remainder of the Syrian Air Force has been relocated to the Russian base in Latakia, due to anticipation of further strikes. What recent early indicators and warnings would make the Syrian MOD make such a decision?
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:57 am

    miketheterrible wrote:what makes it even more suspicious about all of this, is the fact that western countries blocked the proposal for a UN lead investigation into the use of chemical weapons in Syria.  If they have nothing to hide, then they wouldn't have blocked an independent, international lead, investigation.

    Indeed, there was no effort to investigate while the evidence was still fresh. They let the trail get cold and sent in one
    of their WADA-type outfits to push their propaganda narrative. Maybe they found evidence of mass Russian athlete doping
    as a side benefit of this "investigation".

    I will repeat that sarin proves nothing by itself. The jihadis have plenty of it. In fact, they most likely are the only group
    in Syria that has it. The Syrian government forces had all their stockpiles destroyed. No amount of tin foil hat claims that
    Assad has a secret stash can cover up for the fact that the jihadis have sarin.

    BTW, the jihadis are using chemical weapons in Iraq even according to the NATO media. But somehow in Syria they never use them.
    Yeah, sure, NATO mass media is God's Own Truth (TM).
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:58 am

    storm333 wrote:It's been reported that the remainder of the Syrian Air Force has been relocated to the Russian base in Latakia, due to anticipation of further strikes. What recent early indicators and warnings would make the Syrian MOD make such a decision?

    Likely not public information. Russia must be keeping tabs on all US military assets being deployed in the Syrian theater.
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    Post  BKP Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:28 am

    Isos wrote:The parachute makes them explode verticaly on the ground for max effect at the expense of precision that's why they are flying low.

    Don't want to belabor the discussion to hard, but this seems to me to make the most sense.

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