Syrian War: News #12

par far wrote:

eehnie wrote:

par far wrote:

calm wrote:Only thing Russia can do is to mistakenly bomb al-Tanf, again. But it's looks like Russia wasn't involve in this offensive. So SAA is alone? We will see...


US confirmation of a strike on Syrian Military near Al-Tanf in Syria

Russia will involved in this.

I expect the same, but at the right time. The right timing is very important. It is a very difficult goal to achieve, the battle would be very hard just now.

What time do think will be right eehnie? We know that Russian Special Forces are already embedded with the SAA in that area and Iran has probably sent unit's to participate in this operation(whenever there are loud calls to put sanctions on Iran, that is when you know Iran is doing something.) The big question is how will the VKS respond? Does anyone have information about how many Fighter Jets Russia has in Syria right now?

Kurdistan thanks Iran for help against IS

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan24) – There is no doubt that Tehran helped the Kurdistan Region first in 2014 when the Islamic State (IS) attacked the Region, said a senior Kurdish official on Wednesday.

Following the emergence of IS in June 2014 in northern Iraq, the jihadists started to attack the Kurdistan Region in August.

On Tuesday, the President of Iran Hassan Rouhani stated in a speech presented in the Kurdish city of Mahabad in Iranian Kurdistan (Rojhalat) that Iran rescued Erbil, the regional capital of the Kurdistan Region from IS.

He stated that if Iran did not help the Region, Erbil would have fallen under IS control.

In a statement to Kurdistan24 on Wednesday, the Prime Minister of the Kurdistan Region Nechirvan Barzani stated that Kurdistan is thankful for Iran’s help.

“There is no doubt that they [Iran] helped us [Kurdistan Region] at the beginning of Da’esh’s attacks on the Region,” Barzani said, using the Arabic pejorative term for IS.

“We thank them for the help they provided us,” he continued. “Certainly, the threat was huge when Da’esh attacked the Kurdistan Region.”

Barzani noted that he did not want to go into detail about whether Erbil would have fallen in the hands of the insurgents if Iran had not helped.

“All I can say is that we respect their reaction, and we thank them for all the help and support they provided to the Kurdistan Region,” Barzani concluded.

Kurdistan Region shares over 1,000 kilometers (600 miles) of its border with IS in northern Iraq. Peshmerga forces have been successful in pushing the jihadists back since June 2014, and they have been marked as one of the most efficient ground forces in defeating IS.

US airstrikes were supposed to draw "red lines" & "deter" the ResistanceAxis
Neither US airstrikes nor US ground forces can deter the Fedayeen of the ResistanceAxis
(Even if Russia abandons ResistanceAxis decisions)
ResistanceAxis will triumph & the banner of #Syria will be raised over every inch of Syrian land
Victory or Martyrdom
This battle is everything or nothing

eehnie wrote:

par far wrote:

eehnie wrote:

par far wrote:

calm wrote:Only thing Russia can do is to mistakenly bomb al-Tanf, again. But it's looks like Russia wasn't involve in this offensive. So SAA is alone? We will see...


US confirmation of a strike on Syrian Military near Al-Tanf in Syria

Russia will involved in this.

I expect the same, but at the right time. The right timing is very important. It is a very difficult goal to achieve, the battle would be very hard just now.

What time do think will be right eehnie? We know that Russian Special Forces are already embedded with the SAA in that area and Iran has probably sent unit's to participate in this operation(whenever there are loud calls to put sanctions on Iran, that is when you know Iran is doing something.) The big question is how will the VKS respond? Does anyone have information about how many Fighter Jets Russia has in Syria right now?

Syria, surely under advice of Russia, selected well the timing to cut the pass of the ISIS with Turkey. To have direct land link between Iran and Syria is not an important reason now, because they achieved it more to the North. The Kurd territory is friendly enough for Iran, for land supplies until Syria.

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/a735cf3c-b765-4067-a0d4-7a9de2786811/%E2%80%98Kurdistan-thanks-Iran-for-help-against-IS%E2%80%99

Kurdistan thanks Iran for help against IS

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan24) – There is no doubt that Tehran helped the Kurdistan Region first in 2014 when the Islamic State (IS) attacked the Region, said a senior Kurdish official on Wednesday.

Following the emergence of IS in June 2014 in northern Iraq, the jihadists started to attack the Kurdistan Region in August.

On Tuesday, the President of Iran Hassan Rouhani stated in a speech presented in the Kurdish city of Mahabad in Iranian Kurdistan (Rojhalat) that Iran rescued Erbil, the regional capital of the Kurdistan Region from IS.

He stated that if Iran did not help the Region, Erbil would have fallen under IS control.

In a statement to Kurdistan24 on Wednesday, the Prime Minister of the Kurdistan Region Nechirvan Barzani stated that Kurdistan is thankful for Iran’s help.

“There is no doubt that they [Iran] helped us [Kurdistan Region] at the beginning of Da’esh’s attacks on the Region,” Barzani said, using the Arabic pejorative term for IS.

“We thank them for the help they provided us,” he continued. “Certainly, the threat was huge when Da’esh attacked the Kurdistan Region.”

Barzani noted that he did not want to go into detail about whether Erbil would have fallen in the hands of the insurgents if Iran had not helped.

“All I can say is that we respect their reaction, and we thank them for all the help and support they provided to the Kurdistan Region,” Barzani concluded.

Kurdistan Region shares over 1,000 kilometers (600 miles) of its border with IS in northern Iraq. Peshmerga forces have been successful in pushing the jihadists back since June 2014, and they have been marked as one of the most efficient ground forces in defeating IS.

I expect Syria and Russia to select also the right timing in the South. Which conditions can be key for it:

1.- I expect Syria reinforces its positions before. For it I expect them to continue focused eliminating pockets that require important amounts of troops out of the frontline. I expect also some new unit.

2.- I expect Syria to try that the place loses part of its strategic importance. Just today, lots of resources of the rebels and their allies will be focused in the defense of the place. How I would expect to achieve it? I expect Syria and Iraq continue winning more territory to the ISIS more to the North, North-East, both by the Syrian side and by the side of Iraq. I think Syria needs before, to reduce the importance of the potential pocket that can be created.

3.- I expect Syria to advance in the air-space denial for the allies of the opposition in the area (US and more).

But also I expect Syria and Russia to take some advantage before. I expect Syria and Russia try to reduce the size of the pass, making unsafe and easier to control and to eliminate the convoys that use the pass to reinforce the rebels, including ISIS.

calm wrote:

US airstrikes were supposed to draw "red lines" & "deter" the ResistanceAxis
Neither US airstrikes nor US ground forces can deter the Fedayeen of the ResistanceAxis
(Even if Russia abandons ResistanceAxis decisions)  
ResistanceAxis will triumph & the banner of #Syria will be raised over every inch of Syrian land
Victory or Martyrdom
This battle is everything or nothing

https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran


Exclusive: the SAA will proceed advancing towards AlTanaf but from another flank, the troops will be escorted by SyAAF in a 24/7 shift. https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/865316273303040001

calm wrote:

US airstrikes were supposed to draw "red lines" & "deter" the ResistanceAxis
Neither US airstrikes nor US ground forces can deter the Fedayeen of the ResistanceAxis
(Even if Russia abandons ResistanceAxis decisions)  
ResistanceAxis will triumph & the banner of #Syria will be raised over every inch of Syrian land
Victory or Martyrdom
This battle is everything or nothing

https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran


Exclusive: the SAA will proceed advancing towards AlTanaf but from another flank, the troops will be escorted by SyAAF in a 24/7 shift. https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/865316273303040001

PapaDragon wrote:

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I am getting kinda lost in timeline, acronyms and factions of this ''southern comfort'' here. Can you give me a crash course?  

calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

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I am getting kinda lost in timeline, acronyms and factions of this ''southern comfort'' here. Can you give me a crash course?  

Russia used to be part of #resistanceAxis, but no more.

That's all you need to know.  

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

+++:

I am getting kinda lost in timeline, acronyms and factions of this ''southern comfort'' here. Can you give me a crash course?  

Russia used to be part of #resistanceAxis, but no more.

That's all you need to know.  

So you expect them to bomb us proxies which they could hit US forces and cause a defacto war.

I don't think you understand in the slightest what is happening at Tan, You do not understand the risk.

Simply put the risk is too great for Russia but it is too great for us also.

We bombed proxies not the SAA.

I can never understand the madness that is proposed here at times which displays a clear lack of understanding of the situation at the ground, by all means comes to syria and you will see how shattered your logic is.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

+++:

I am getting kinda lost in timeline, acronyms and factions of this ''southern comfort'' here. Can you give me a crash course?  

Russia used to be part of #resistanceAxis, but no more.

That's all you need to know.  

So you expect them to bomb us proxies which they could hit US forces and cause a defacto war.

I don't think you understand in the slightest what is happening at Tan, You do not understand the risk.

Simply put the risk is too great for Russia but it is too great for us also.

We bombed proxies not the SAA.

I can never understand the madness that is proposed here at times which displays a clear lack of understanding of the situation at the ground, by all means comes to syria and you will see how shattered your logic is.

We bombed proxies not the SAA.

I don't think you understand in the slightest what is happening at Tan, You do not understand the risk.

calm wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

+++:

I am getting kinda lost in timeline, acronyms and factions of this ''southern comfort'' here. Can you give me a crash course?  

Russia used to be part of #resistanceAxis, but no more.

That's all you need to know.  

Regular wrote:It seems "coalition" is calling Russia's bluff.
What's next, calling for Assads assassination? Oh wait, that already happened.
Israeli minister calls for Assads assassination

Russia need to shoot some jets down and hit US SF positions to cause casualties, PRONTO.

ultimatewarrior wrote:

Regular wrote:It seems "coalition" is calling Russia's bluff.
What's next, calling for Assads assassination? Oh wait, that already happened.
Israeli minister calls for Assads assassination

Russia need to shoot some jets down and hit US SF positions to cause casualties, PRONTO.

Russia's Su-35 and S-400 are in Syria only to defend Russian servicemen. BUT, if Russia shows weakness, what happens today in Syria will be what happens in the future in Russia. Entire cities reduced to rubble. Millions of refugees. That's America's plan for Russia. Russians have good heart. They always want to be America's friends. Americans have evil heart. They always want to slaughter Russians.

PapaDragon wrote:
What we seem to have now in Syria is conflict between Russia and Iran.

Russia wants to secure E.Aleppo and push towards Deir ez Zorr. This will allow them to pretty much secure all pro gov. population centers and then refocus on Idlib.

There is also matter of principle. They abhor leaving people encircled and besieged.

Iran on the other hand seem to be focused on fighting completely different war and are using current "truce" in Idlib to try to pull another attempt at securing connection with Lebanon.

So now we have two currents in Syrian government. Pro Iran and pro Russia.

This results in Iranians forcing SAA to divert troops towards the south to push their Shia Crescent project and to secure more influence in post war Syria. Which is idiotic on several levels because not only are they incapable of matching Russian muscle but securing Syria like Russia is pushing for will result in connection to Lebanon either way.

Problem is that this approach will not give them full control afterwards. This results in them diverting SAA into this southern detour while hoping that if SHTF Russia will do their fighting for them. Russia not being stupid simply decided to let them get fucked back to their senses.

Problem is that this results in operation to lift siege of DeZ being delayed. This is why there are still no big movements on that front yet. Russia managed to to free up troops for this op with those deescalation zones but Iranians, being parasites as usual, immediately started fucking up again.

And DeZ get to suffer bit longer as a result.