S-300/400 ORBAT. Battalions and Regiments

My two cents;

1 - 20th regiment may be the unit in Syria... number unknown
2 - reminder that planned deployment by the end of 2020 is 28 regiments. That means 4 a year to complete.
3 - have not seen a S400 regiment arrive complete. They start off with the radars and C3's of the HQ plus 1 battalion of S400. They command original S300 battalions of that regiment for such time until other S400 battalions arrive.
4 - this makes it difficult to count S400 battalions accurately
5 - it is possible there are 21 regiments as there was some confusion in the unit numbers back in 2016 if you remember, or there may be a training regiment at Ashuluk.
6 - it almost appears that the S300V's serving in Air Defense are going back to Ground Forces control. Rather or not the Regimental numbers are transferring also remains to be seen. (Kaliningrad and Sakhalin) Also would not be surprised to see the S300V unit in Birobidzhan revert to it's original 203rd AD brigade name and under Ground Forces control.

franco wrote:

By my count at present there are;

76 SA.400
160 SA.300PMU
244 SA.300PS

Planned procurement to the end of 2020 was 224 SA.400, 152 SA.350 and 40 SA.500.
Still leaves 148 SA.400's to come and the SA.350 was to start production this year.

now after 3,5 years we have 328 S-400

Do we have figures for S-300PMU and S-300PS?

George1 wrote:

franco wrote:

By my count at present there are;

76 SA.400
160 SA.300PMU
244 SA.300PS

Planned procurement to the end of 2020 was 224 SA.400, 152 SA.350 and 40 SA.500.
Still leaves 148 SA.400's to come and the SA.350 was to start production this year.

now after 3,5 years we have 328 S-400

Do we have figures for S-300PMU and S-300PS?

As said by ult, the English wiki of Federation MIC is notoriously unreliable (for obvious reasons). For future reference click the Russian language version, and use a machine translator. Also there's 432 launchers:

ult wrote:

English wiki is very outdated.

Use this.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1-400


27 / 54 / 432

Out of those 27, 2 regiments have been delivered ahead of schedule and have yet to be on combat duty.

I'm a little dubious of that 432 launcher figure as the original planned total to the end of 2021 was only 448.

Arrow wrote:Is 56 S-400 battalions enough for Russia?

I'm sure they will keep on producing as that total was just the planned number by the end of the 2011-2020 acquisition period.

franco wrote:I'm a little dubious of that 432 launcher figure as the original planned total to the end of 2021 was only 448.

You have to account for launchers delivered early but not taken on duty. You have to train personnel before you can put people behind the machines, their not autonomous devices.

Anyone knows how many older version of s-300 russia has in operation and in stocks ? Earlier than PMU-2 and VM.

Could they give them to some countries to "infest" them with russian hardware and thus oblige them to have contracts with russia but in a nice way. Countries like Brezil, argentina, bolivia, iraq, angola, egypt, phillipines ...

1 system for each country.

Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.

the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!

rambo54 wrote:the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!

Thanks, makes sense. Did you ever hear of a unit name for the S400 in Syria?

1 system for each country.

Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.

One system on its own could easily be overwhelmed... especially if operated by badly trained or unmotivated forces.

If Syrian experience has shown anything it is that a fully IADS means rather more than the missiles being used, though obviously the better the missiles the more effective the system would be in blunting any attack.

GarryB wrote:

1 system for each country.

Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.

One system on its own could easily be overwhelmed... especially if operated by badly trained or unmotivated forces.

If Syrian experience has shown anything it is that a fully IADS means rather more than the missiles being used, though obviously the better the missiles the more effective the system would be in blunting any attack.

Well they would have access to a very good radar for peace time.

The idea is more about giving and training foreign crew so they get used to russian hardware and buy new ones. No military consideration, just business.

Replacing then in 10 years those s-300 by russian system is easier and cheaper than with other systems.

franco wrote:

rambo54 wrote:the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!

Thanks, makes sense. Did you ever hear of a unit name for the S400 in Syria?

Analysis of the ID plates of first leaked fotos (2 years ago) of 5P85S2 show that the first four TELs came from 549 AD RGT.
I personally don't think that the meanwhile 8 TELs (at two sites) are an independent RGT but deployments from existing ones.

BTW: 1544 RGT: look at 58.217255° 29.078285° (google 31.7.18) - wonderful clear view of 91N6

Re-equipment of air defense units in 2018 on the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3567449.html

According to the data refined using satellite images, as of January 1, 2021, the S-400 air defense missile systems were deployed in the following anti-aircraft missile regiments (abbreviated as ZRP)

Moscow region:
606 zrp-3 divisions
549 zrp-2
584 zrp-2
210 zrp- 2
93 zrp-2

Leningrad region:
500 zrp-2
1488 zrp-2
1489 zrp-2
1490 zrp-4

Pskov region:
1544 zrp-2

Kaliningrad region:
1545 zrp-2
183 zrp-4

Murmansk region:
531 zrp-2

Arkhangelsk area:
1528 zrp-4
33 zrp-2

Krasnodar Territory:
1537 zrp-2

Republic of Crimea:
12 zrp-2
18 zrp-3

Saratov region:
511 zrp-2

Samara region:
568 zrp-2

Novosibirsk region:
590 zrp-2

Sverdlovsk region:
185 zrp-2

Primorsky Territory:
589 zrp-2
1533 zrp-2

Khabarovsk Territory:
1529 zrp-2
1530 zrp-3

Kamchatka Territory:
1532 zrp-3

Sakhalin Oblast:
1724 zrp-2

Syrian Arab Republic
consolidated zrp 555th air group - 2

Plus deployed two training divisions Yaroslavl Military School of Air Defense and the 11th Center of Anti-Aircraft Missile Forces (Leningrad Region)

A total of 70 divisions of S-400 air defense systems were received in 2007-2020.

https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2182340.html

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4233048.html

Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.

owais.usmani wrote:Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSaUW6rTr8

This list is missing the 588th in Samara (Central-UBO) and the 1724th in Sakhalin (Eastern-BBO) which are the last 2 units to convert. Scheduled for 2 more regiments this year but not sure of locations plus the first S-350 regiment is scheduled for this year.

franco wrote:

owais.usmani wrote:Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSaUW6rTr8

This list is missing the 588th in Samara (Central-UBO) and the 1724th in Sakhalin (Eastern-BBO) which are the last 2 units to convert. Scheduled for 2 more regiments this year but not sure of locations plus the first S-350 regiment is scheduled for this year.

How about a list in English language?

S-400

NORTH MD
33rd - Rogachevo
531st - Severomorsk
1528th - Severodvinsk

WEST MD
500th - Leningrad
1488th - Leningrad
1489th - Leningrad
1490th - Leningrad
1544th - Strugi Krasnye

183rd - Kaliningrad
1545th - Kaliningrad

93rd - Moscow
210th - Moscow
549th - Moscow
584th - Moscow
606th - Moscow

SOUTH MD
12th - Crimea
18th - Crimea
1536th - Rostov
1537th - Novorossiysk

CENTRAL MD
185th - Ekaterinburg
511th - Engels
588th - Samara
590th - Novosibirsk

EAST MD
589th - Nakhodka
1529th - Khabarovsk
1530th - Khurba
1533rd - Vladivostok
1532nd - Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
1724th - Khomutovo

Syria:
555th -

Training Units:
Gatchina
Yaroslavl
Ashulak

franco wrote:S-400

NORTH MD
33rd - Rogachevo
531st - Severomorsk
1528th - Severodvinsk

WEST MD
500th - Leningrad
1488th - Leningrad
1489th - Leningrad
1490th - Leningrad
1544th - Strugi Krasnye

183rd - Kaliningrad
1545th - Kaliningrad

93rd - Moscow
210th - Moscow
549th - Moscow
584th - Moscow
606th - Moscow

SOUTH MD
12th - Crimea
18th - Crimea
1536th - Rostov
1537th - Novorossiysk

CENTRAL MD
185th - Ekaterinburg
511th - Engels
588th - Samara
590th - Novosibirsk

EAST MD
589th - Nakhodka
1529th - Khabarovsk
1530th - Khurba
1533rd - Vladivostok
1532nd - Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
1724th - Khomutovo

Syria:
555th -

Training Units:
Gatchina
Yaroslavl
Ashulak

Thanks dude!