On the other hand agree re Rambo. I count too but not like him... wow! The man is a walking Satellite, I can't tell the difference between some models but he never is in doubt.
amigo!
franco wrote:As I said, "If we could agree but alas"
On the other hand agree re Rambo. I count too but not like him... wow! The man is a walking Satellite, I can't tell the difference between some models but he never is in doubt.
amigo!
JohninMK wrote:Is it possible that part of the confusion on what is where and how many of this and that per unit is intentional and exactly what the Russian MoD wants? Making the job of Western Intelligence in their evaluation of the SAM risk more complex.
If so a sterling job is being done here, I am more confused now than 20 posts ago.
In 2016, the regiment set SAM S-400 "Triumph" has entered into service one of the compounds videoconferencing Russian missile defense stationed in the Moscow region.
"Three sets of regimental S-400" Triumph "in 2016 entered service connections air defense military districts. In the future S-400 should form the basis of anti-aircraft missile regiments videoconferencing," - said in a statement.
JohninMK wrote:Is it possible that part of the confusion on what is where and how many of this and that per unit is intentional and exactly what the Russian MoD wants? Making the job of Western Intelligence in their evaluation of the SAM risk more complex.
If so a sterling job is being done here, I am more confused now than 20 posts ago.
Thus, since the beginning of serial deliveries of S-400 (40R6), to the Air Force and Air Defence of Russia were delivered 16 regimental sets of system (a total of 33 divisions) - one in 2011, two in 2012 and 2013, three in 2014 and 2015 and five in 2016.
George1 wrote:Thus, since the beginning of serial deliveries of S-400 (40R6), to the Air Force and Air Defence of Russia were delivered 16 regimental sets of system (a total of 33 divisions) - one in 2011, two in 2012 and 2013, three in 2014 and 2015 and five in 2016.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2293653.html
33 divisons in total x?? Firing units (TELs)=so how many ?? TELs till now [if we can agree that firing unit is TEL ]
George1 wrote:Thus, since the beginning of serial deliveries of S-400 (40R6), to the Air Force and Air Defence of Russia were delivered 16 regimental sets of system (a total of 33 divisions) - one in 2011, two in 2012 and 2013, three in 2014 and 2015 and five in 2016.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2293653.html
33 divisons in total x?? Firing units (TELs)=so how many ?? TELs till now [if we can agree that firing unit is TEL ]
Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:S-400, Triumf
A "standard" S-400, Triumf battalion [дивизион (divizion), not дивизия (diviziya, division)] includes up to 6 batteries (батарея, batareya), each comprising up to 12 four-missile (large missiles) launchers.
George1 wrote:Russia's top arms manufacturer hands over five S-400 regiments to Defense Ministry
More:
http://tass.com/defense/915277
KiloGolf wrote:Yeah well now it's more confusing
Frickin S-300 sub-unit organization is so complicated.
Arrow wrote:Thanks
So Russia in 2020 will be about +- 162 launcher S-300V4. In the case of S-400 it will be about 448 launcher.
S.400 = 56*12*4 = 2688 "big" missiles max and 56*8*4= 1792"big" missiles min wrote:
- S-300P = 72*8*4=2304 "big" missiles wrote:
Viktor wrote:Arrow wrote:Thanks
So Russia in 2020 will be about +- 162 launcher S-300V4. In the case of S-400 it will be about 448 launcher.
You will have roughly:
- S.400 = 56*12*4 = 2688 "big" missiles max and 56*8*4= 1792"big" missiles min
- S-300P = 72*8*4=2304 "big" missiles
- S-300V = 9*3*4*(2*2+4*4)=2160 "big" missiles
meaning roughly by 2020 Russia will have ready to fire around 6700 "big" missiles with around 220 guidance radars of all kind able to guide abt. 3000 missiles
on 1500 targets at once
As I mentioned previously the general requirements for the Russian aerospace forces is simultaneous defense against the attacking force coming from
three different directions simultaneously each having composition of 500 planes
Isos wrote:Viktor wrote:Arrow wrote:Thanks
So Russia in 2020 will be about +- 162 launcher S-300V4. In the case of S-400 it will be about 448 launcher.
You will have roughly:
- S.400 = 56*12*4 = 2688 "big" missiles max and 56*8*4= 1792"big" missiles min
- S-300P = 72*8*4=2304 "big" missiles
- S-300V = 9*3*4*(2*2+4*4)=2160 "big" missiles
meaning roughly by 2020 Russia will have ready to fire around 6700 "big" missiles with around 220 guidance radars of all kind able to guide abt. 3000 missiles
on 1500 targets at once
As I mentioned previously the general requirements for the Russian aerospace forces is simultaneous defense against the attacking force coming from
three different directions simultaneously each having composition of 500 planes
For each missile they probably have at least 2 missiles for reload if not more. The loading take some 20-30 minutes if realoaders are near the systems so you can add some "3000 targets"
Arrow wrote:
Ok but now all battalion S-400 have a 8 launcher.
All S-300PS will be withdraw. In service will be stay about 24 battalion S-300PM-2 and develop new S-350.
Around 75 batteries will be modernized to PM2 standard the rest will be withdrawn. wrote:
Arrow wrote:
I read that only S-300 PM. This is about 24 battalions.
franco wrote:And you are optimistic to the end...
franco wrote:And you are optimistic to the end...