Syrian War: News #13

medo wrote:If I understand correctly this new situation, than No1 sponsor of terrorists Saudi Arabia is accusing No2 sponsor of terrorists Qatar of sponsoring the same terrorists that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring. This is epic. Actually I really hope there will be war between Saudi Arabia and Qatar, war between two armies equipped with the most modern western armament and legendary uncompetent. That will be epic fail, true tragic commedy of war.  I think Iranians should buy a lot of popcorn to watch this show. Destruction of both, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will actually bring peace to the World.

Surely both contries are buying a bottle of gasoline and a box of matchs for every soldier , after learning in Yemen that this is the best way to deal with this equipment .

Also they need to train the dance.

The SyAF have identified that plane they lost a couple of days ago

Wael Al Hussaini‏ @WaelHussaini 15h

#SyAAF lost today a Mig-23ML #2797 piloted by Colonel Kamil Smetah/Dumyar AB he martyred unfortunately, crashed due to a technical failure.

Interesting location for a PMU 1*. Sadly some heavy casualties being taken there now.

Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 11h11 hours ago

#Syria #Hama #EasternHama #Iraq #Iraqi Brigadier General Khaddar of #Iraqi #PMU was Injured today @ New Battle East of #Salamiyah Today

JohninMK wrote:The SyAF have identified that plane they lost a couple of days ago

Wael Al Hussaini‏ @WaelHussaini 15h

#SyAAF lost today a Mig-23ML #2797 piloted by Colonel Kamil Smetah/Dumyar AB he martyred unfortunately, crashed due to a technical failure.

MiG-23ML is fighter, not attack plane like MiG-23BN. It was not shot down but had technical failure. Russia continues to withhold MiG-29M2 Syria ordered before 2011 because Russia wants every Syrian pilot dead. Russia do this for its buddy buddy Israel. One way love affair. Russia loves Israel. Israel doesn't return the favor and refuses to import a single piece of Russian hardware.

[quote="ultimatewarrior"]

JohninMK wrote:Russia continues to withhold MiG-29M2 Syria ordered before 2011 because Russia wants every Syrian pilot dead. Russia do this for its buddy buddy Israel. One way love affair. Russia loves Israel. Israel doesn't return the favor and refuses to import a single piece of Russian hardware.

maybe they are already delivered?
but they withold the new stuff if things are getting serious and will be actvated if things escalate (Nato invasion)
I think SAA witholding the real babys if Nato escalate.

JohninMK wrote:Interesting location for a PMU 1*. Sadly some heavy casualties being taken there now.

Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 11h11 hours ago

#Syria #Hama #EasternHama #Iraq #Iraqi Brigadier General Khaddar of #Iraqi #PMU was Injured today @ New Battle East of #Salamiyah Today

Well this is an area that IS shouldn't have been allowed to setup shop in the first place. Let alone exist there right now. I say the area East of Salamiyah needs to be cleared asap from IS within the month if possible. Same for the route to Sukhna-Deir Ezzor.

It was a matter of time .. The Pentagon bombed AGAIN the Syrian army
advancing over ISIS and other terrorist with the pretext to "Respect" the deconfliction zones.

https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/

Vann7 wrote:
It was a matter of time .. The Pentagon bombed AGAIN the Syrian army
advancing over ISIS and other terrorist with the pretext to "Respect" the deconfliction zones.

https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/

They were not advancing over ISIS. ISIS is east of Palmyra.

That convoy would have been more useful if sent east towards DeZ (main objective of whole war ATM if anyone remembers). What did they expect would happen?

PapaDragon wrote:

Vann7 wrote:
It was a matter of time .. The Pentagon bombed AGAIN the Syrian army
advancing over ISIS and other terrorist with the pretext to "Respect" the deconfliction zones.

https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/

They were not advancing over ISIS. ISIS is east of Palmyra.

That convoy would have been more useful if sent east towards DeZ (main objective of whole war ATM if anyone remembers). What did they expect would happen?

ISIS is located in many parts of Syria East homs and North in RAqqa. What are you talking about? They also in the south border with jordan and Israel. so you are wrong. Israel even said ISIS bombed their border guards by mistake.. so you are wrong. And what are you doing justifying US bombing in Syrian forces that many times have Russian advisors and special forces ?  

Vann7 wrote:..................

ISIS is located in many  parts of Syria East homs and North in RAqqa. What are you talking about? They also in the south border with jordan and Israel. so you are wrong. Israel even said ISIS bombed their border guards by mistake.. so you are wrong. And what are you doing justifying US bombing in Syrian forces that many times have Russian advisors and special forces ?  

Main priority now is DeZ. Some ISIS clowns scattered all over that wasteland down there can wait.

Vann7 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Vann7 wrote:
It was a matter of time .. The Pentagon bombed AGAIN the Syrian army
advancing over ISIS and other terrorist with the pretext to "Respect" the deconfliction zones.

https://www.rt.com/news/391150-coalition-strike-syria-forces/

They were not advancing over ISIS. ISIS is east of Palmyra.

That convoy would have been more useful if sent east towards DeZ (main objective of whole war ATM if anyone remembers). What did they expect would happen?

ISIS is located in many  parts of Syria East homs and North in RAqqa. What are you talking about? They also in the south border with jordan and Israel. so you are wrong. Israel even said ISIS bombed their border guards by mistake.. so you are wrong. And what are you doing justifying US bombing in Syrian forces that many times have Russian advisors and special forces ?  

Excellent points. Uncle Scumbag should be not be allowed to bomb the SAA anywhere in Syria. Scumbag has no authority to bomb any part of Syria.

Is there any way for the Syrian Airforce to massacre the Al Tanf NATO shits with plausible deniability and swiftly capture the border crossing? Syria may take some tomahawks but this time Russia will be prepared to shoot them down.

I would love nothing more than to see a killing field filled with goatfuckers and americans side by side.

The US bombed SAA again. The US says say 70 km away from Tanf. Who's to say SAA didn't stay and away and still they attacked?

https://twitter.com/NatDefFor/status/872168181120610305

They created /creating a safe zone for terrorist that covers thousands kilometers from IRAQ and Jordan border. All this events was to be expected . But the Syrian army needs to keep liberating zones ,it cannot stop now to fight US coalition. Eventually they will need to leave.

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ultimatewarrior wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Russia continues to withhold MiG-29M2 Syria ordered before 2011 because Russia wants every Syrian pilot dead. Russia do this for its buddy buddy Israel. One way love affair. Russia loves Israel. Israel doesn't return the favor and refuses to import a single piece of Russian hardware.

maybe they are already delivered?
but they withold the new stuff if things are getting serious and will be actvated if things escalate (Nato invasion)
I think SAA witholding the real babys if Nato escalate.

If you are going to use the 'quote' feature please use it correctly.

I DID NOT SAY WHAT YOU PUT. OK?

This will give an interesting route in from the Med.

The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group (GHWBCSG) resumed strikes on the Daesh targets from the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, according to the statement of the US Navy.

An AH-64D Apache attack helicopter flies in front of a wall of fire during the South Carolina National Guard Air and Ground Expo at McEntire Joint National Guard Base, South Carolina, U.S. on May 6, 2017
© REUTERS/ Jorge Intriago/Courtesy Air National Guard
US Apache Helicopters, Marines Provide Support to Raqqa Offensive - Pentagon
WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — US warships carried out strikes on Islamic State [Daesh] (banned in Russia) targets from the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, the US Navy said in a statement on Tuesday.

"The George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group (GHWBCSG) resumed strike missions in support of Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR) from the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, June 6," the statement said. Operation Inherent Resolve is the US-led campaign against the Daesh terrorist group in Iraq and Syria.

"We are resuming a relentless pursuit of ISIS [Daesh] targets, while reinforcing our commitment to partners and allies in the US 6th Fleet area of operations," Rear Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, commander of Carrier Strike Group 2 said in the statement.

The strike group entered the Mediterranean Sea on June 5, the statement said. It last conducted strikes on Daesh targets from March 6-8.

The strike group consists of the flagship USS George H.W. Bush, Carrier Air Wing 8 and Destroyer Squadron 22, guided-missile cruisers Philippine Sea and Hue City as well as the guided-missile destroyers Laboon and Truxtun.

Situation in Raqqa today



Also out of interest, Raqqa and Mosul

i wonder if western msm will make an update coverage about the syrian boy whom the white helmet terrorists used as propaganda tool to smear Syrian government and Russia a couple of months ago

Vann7 wrote:

They created /creating a safe zone for terrorist that covers thousands kilometers from IRAQ and Jordan border.  All this events was to be expected . But the Syrian army needs to keep liberating zones ,it cannot stop now to fight US coalition. Eventually they will need to leave.

If if they don't, then PMU will butcher them. SAA is one thing. PMU, well, it's another completely different beast, driven by religious fever.

ultimatewarrior wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

They created /creating a safe zone for terrorist that covers thousands kilometers from IRAQ and Jordan border.  All this events was to be expected . But the Syrian army needs to keep liberating zones ,it cannot stop now to fight US coalition. Eventually they will need to leave.

If if they don't, then PMU will butcher them. SAA is one thing. PMU, well, it's another completely different beast, driven by religious fever.

The Syrian war could last 10 ,20 or even 30 years. Because "liberating the borders" will not
end the war ,because once Syria reach them ,will need to face the artillery of the countries at their borders. including a major invasion of a big army to push them back. So Syria needs to keep a balance between avoding casualties as much as possible ,while always moving forward liberating as much territory they can without major risks. and strenghtening their positions and making stronger not only the army but its economy too.
If syria do not create a working economy with jobs for a long time and do not maintain nation unity ,it risk major break up of the society with a new wave of revolutions ,so all the gained terrain will be wasted and reversed without a fight.    This is why Reconcilation is also important. amnesty etc.. Because NATO can continue sending waves of terrorist ,for 2 decades if they are really dedicated on breaking Syria they can do it.

aside that Syria is not a good place for Russia to engage in a war with NATO is surrounded by powerful enemies in all sides. So part of battle planning is to know which places are ideal for battle and which ones are terrible. because the location benefits a lot the enemy way more.
In this case Syria battlefield is way better for NATO to fight than for Russia ,since they can attack Syria from all sides. and Russia have no place to retreat and supplies can be cut.

In the case of Ukraine -donetsk is the other way. NATO will be in a Huge disadvantage there.
Russia mighty dense air defenses there will be unstoppable with endless supply lines. same with Georgia. NATO have no chance to win a fight against Russia there. will be a one side battle and black sea will be all of it withing range of the full scale of Russia airforce.

This is why NATO cannot add Ukraine to NATO ,no matter how much they cry or want it.
Because NATO will be unable to avoid to save face if doesn't help a NATO member. it will be a position NATO cannot defend well.  In Kaliningrad NATO if deploy a big force will be in advantage. and the region over run in no time.. this is in case of a full scale war. Russia will need to use nukes to stop any invasion. but the power advantage in conventional war is for NATO there.

Kurds captured first district in Raqqa, no fighting for now...


Looks like Daer will be the end of IS. Only in last 3 days there are 100 dead terrorists there. More then in 1 month of fighting with Kurds.

Meanwhile in east Homs...

ISIS Attack syrian army in points near Oil line south of Aqareb in East Salameh
my source told me : we have killed about 25 of ISIS


And toward Arak...
IS defending Arak like there is no tomorrow after that...

MaT reports that they will soon have operations inside Deir Ezzor Governate, and they will establish a base there.

ISIS has taken some points within Deir-Azor and their offensive is on going.

Syrians are closer and closer to losing this war. At this point, Assad is going to lose. Unless someone gets his act together real god dam fast

Daraa is a pointless offensive and Tan-if well that could have waited, sure it's a legitimate target but it's not of dire important.

Once Deir falls and at this rate it's going to, Kurds or FSA will sweep in.

Again tho anyone with a functional mind can see this.