US-India Defense Ties

especially if they buy S-400s which would mean they might lose the right to make F-16s or anything else for that matter...

The US will not punish India for buying S-400s if they gain access to them &/ an ally against the PRC. India isn't Turkey or Pakistan, it's too large to be bullied & has $Bs to spend. As usual, the US MIC is salivating as it's "never enough" for them.
The 45,000-ton Vikramaditya isn't bad looking against the CVN-68!:

India received the first helicopter CH-47F (I) Chinook

As reported by the Indian Embassy in the United States, on February 1, 2019, a ceremony of handing over the first Boeing CH-47F (I) transport helicopter Chinook (Indian military number ZL-4674) built by the Indian order for 15 cars to the Boeing CH-47F (I) transport helicopter took place at the enterprise of the American corporation Boeing in Philadelphia.



Recall that on September 28, 2015, the Ministry of Defense of India signed with the US government and Boeing Corporation a package of contracts worth $ 3 billion for the purchase of 22 AH-64E Apache Guardian combat helicopters and 15 CH-47F (I) Chinook transport helicopters. Contract options include 11 more AN-64E helicopters and seven CH-47F (I) helicopters.

The contracts were signed under a complex “mixed” scheme, involving the purchase by the Indian Defense Ministry of AN-64E combat helicopters directly from Boeing Corporation through the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS), and weapons, equipment, spare parts and property to them. with the US government under foreign military foreign trade agreements (FMS). FMS will also train Indian personnel. CH-47F (I) helicopters are fully purchased from Boeing through the DCS line.

The first flight of the first CH-47F (I) Chinook helicopter built for India (Indian military number ZL-4674, temporary registration number N279RN) took place on July 23, 2018 (and the first AN-64E helicopter built for India - July 16). The transfer of the AN-64E helicopters to the Indian side has not yet begun.





https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3516618.html

Lockheed Martin renamed the F-16 fighter for India to F-21

The American corporation Lockheed Martin has decided to assign a new designation F-21 to the proposed F-16V Block 70/72 fighter variant of the Indian Air Force. As you can see, this was done to avoid undesirable connotations in India due to the fact that the F-16 fighter jets are in service with the Pakistan Air Force. The announcement of the new F-21 fighter aircraft was made by Lockheed Martin at the Aero India 2019 aerospace exhibition in Bangalore, India.

wow. Just wow. What a pathetic attempt to confuse Indians on it. I wonder if the MoD of India will be fooled by this?

IMO, among the American fighters, F-18 or F-15 would be better for India than the F-16/-21. But they r even more costly & may suffer from sanctions in the future. That's why they r better off with MiG-35s, Su-30s/-35s.

India received the first helicopter AN-64E Apache

On May 10, 2019, the Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian (temporary US registration number N4801A) of 22 units ordered by India under 2015 contract was officially unveiled at the Boeing Corporation plant in Mesa, Arizona.

On September 28, 2015, the Indian Defense Ministry signed a package of contracts worth $ 3 billion for the purchase of 22 AH-64E Apache Guardian combat helicopters and 15 CH-47F (I) Chinook transport helicopters (including for the purchase of AN helicopters) with the US Government and Boeing Corporation. -64E intended 2.1 billion dollars of this amount). Contract options included another 11 AN-64E helicopters and seven CH-47F (I).

The contracts were signed under a complicated “mixed” scheme, involving the purchase by the Indian Defense Ministry of AN-64E combat helicopters directly from Boeing’s Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) line, and weapons, equipment, spare parts and property to them. the US government has agreements under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program of intergovernmental foreign military sales. FMS will also train Indian personnel. In particular, it is known that the FMS delivery will include 12 AN / APG-76 Longbow radars, 812 AGM-114L-3 Longbow Hellfire and 542 GM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, as well as 242 FIM-92H Stinger Block missiles I in the air-to-air version. CH-47F (I) helicopters are fully purchased from Boeing through the DCS line.

Under the terms of the contracts, Boeing pledged to reinvest 30% of the value of the agreements in India in the form of offsets. In particular, under the agreement of Boeing with the Indian company Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL, the defense division of the Tata group) created a joint venture Tata Boeing Aerospace Limited (TBAL), which should become the only subcontractor manufacturer of the Boeing AH-64 Apache combat helicopters manufactured by Boeing in the USA for both the US Army and for foreign customers, including India. The opening of the production of the company TBAL took place on March 1, 2018 in Hyderabad. In addition to the fuselages, a number of structural elements of Apache helicopters will be produced at TBAL, including the wing spars.

The first AN-64E helicopter built for India (temporary US registration number N4801A) made the first flight to Mesa on July 16, 2018.

Currently, the Government of India plans to conclude an agreement with the United States on the supply of six more AN-64E helicopters for the implementation of the option, which, apparently, will come into service no longer the Air Force, but the Army Aviation of India.





https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3639569.html

India will acquire another ten US base patrol aircraft R-8I

As reported by Indian media, on June 20, 2019, the High Security Committee’s Procurement Planning Committee for the Armed Forces (Services Capital Acquisition Plan Categorization Higher Committee) approved the acquisition of ten more US base patrol aircraft Boeing P-8I Poseidon for the Indian Navy (Indian name - Neptune) worth about $ 3 billion.


Eight US Navy Aviation Aviation Aviation 312 squadrons of American basic patrol aircraft Boeing P-8I Poseidon (Indian name - Neptune) at the aircraft station INS Rajali at the airfield of Arokkonam (Tamil Nadu) (with) the Indian Navy

The P-8I aircraft itself will be procured directly from Boeing Corporation through the American Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) procedure, while military equipment and weapons for the aircraft will be ordered under an intergovernmental agreement as part of the US program of intergovernmental foreign military sales ( Foreign Military Sales - FMS). The relevant agreements can be finalized in early 2020. In this case, deliveries of Indian aircraft can be started as early as 2023.

To date, the Indian Navy in 2012-2015 has already received eight P-8I aircraft under a contract of 2009 worth 2.1 billion dollars (from 2017 they are in service with the 312nd Squadron of Indian Naval Aviation) and ordered in 2016 for 1 $ 1 billion is another four R-8I aircraft for delivery in the years 2021-2022. With the purchase of another ten units, the total number of P-8Is in the Indian Navy Aviation will be increased to 22.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3688973.html

India received the eleventh military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III

On August 26, 2019, the Indian representative office of Boeing Corporation announced the transfer of another heavy military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III to the Indian Air Force. This board with the Indian military number SV-8011 (serial number F-272, serial number 50272) became the eleventh S-17A aircraft received by the Indian Air Force and the last delivered S-17A as a whole.



Recall that India previously received ten heavy military transport aircraft Boeing C-17A Globemaster III, purchased under an intergovernmental agreement concluded in June 2011 with the American side through American intergovernmental military sales Foreign Military Sales (FMS) worth $ 4.7 billion. The delivery of these aircraft was made in 2013-2014. The agreement included an option to purchase six more S-17A aircraft, but it was not implemented until Boeing finally ceased serial production of these aircraft in 2015.

At the beginning of 2015, the Indian Air Force began the process of completing the purchase of three additional S-17As, but no agreement was reached with the American side, and these aircraft “left” Qatar. However, India eventually acquired one C-17A aircraft with serial number F-272 (50272, U.S. registration N272ZD), built in 2014, but for unknown reasons not delivered to any well-known customer and stored at Boeing's Long Beach facility .

In June 2017, the US Department of Defense Agency for Defense Cooperation (DSCA) sent a notice to the U.S. Congress about the upcoming FMS delivery of one Boeing C-17A Globemaster II heavy military transport aircraft to India with an estimated cost of 366.2 million dollars. Now this aircraft and delivered to the Indian Air Force.

All C-17A aircraft are in the Indian Air Force in service with 81st Squadron at Hindon Air Base near Ghaziabad.



https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3751055.html

That's it now for the C-17. This Indian one was the last to come off the assembly line at Boeing Long Beach back in 2015 before they shut the line down due to lack of sales. It had been stored since then stored since then. I think with 11 the IAF has the largest fleet after the 220+ in the USAF.

Indian Air Force AH-64E Apache combat helicopter deployment ceremony on the border with Pakistan













https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3761202.html

India's Planned Procurement of US 127mm Mk 45 Mod 4 Naval Artillery

On November 19, 2019, the US Department of Defense Agency for Defense Cooperation (DSCA) sent a notification to the U.S. Congress of the planned upcoming sale of India through the American program of intergovernmental foreign military sales (FMS) of 13 naval universal artillery installations Mk 45 Mod 4 caliber 127 mm / 62. This shipment is approved by the US Department of State. The total cost of the proposed delivery will be $ 1.021 billion, including training and technical support packages.


American 127-mm / 62 naval universal artillery mount BAE Systems Mk 45 Mod 4 on the ship of the U.S. Navy (s) BAE Systems

The general contractor for the supply will be the manufacturer of these installations, the corporation BAE Systems (it produces these artillery systems at an enterprise in Louisville, Kentucky). . According to the notice, the delivery will also include 3,500 D349 shells of 127 mm caliber.

Most likely, the 127 mm / 62 Mk 45 Mod 4 artillery will be installed on the Indian frigates of Project 17A (type Nilgirn, seven units) and destroyers of Project 15B (type Visakhapatnam, four units) launched by the construction of the Indian frigates. The commissioning of the main ship of the Job type is scheduled for 2021-2022

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3851884.html

So that is like 93 million USD per gun. Seems very expensive, overpriced i think.

India signed an agreement on the purchase of American helicopters MN-60R and AH-64E (I)

US President Donald Trump, speaking on February 25, 2020 in New Delhi at a joint press conference with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, announced the signing of agreements on the delivery of Indian Sikorsky (Lockheed Martin) МН- More than $ 3 billion worth of 60R Sea Hawk and Boeing AH-64E (I) Apache Guardian combat helicopters. We are talking about supplying 24 MN-60R helicopters for Indian Navy aviation and six AH-64E (I) helicopters for Indian Army aviation.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3943901.html

thats like $100M per helicopter.

Holy shit.

The Ka-52 helicopters to Egypt I believe were significantly cheaper.

miketheterrible wrote:thats like $100M per helicopter.

Holy shit.

The Ka-52 helicopters to Egypt I believe were significantly cheaper.

The latest variant of Sea King choppers cost on average $112 million per aircraft.....that's absolutely maddening levels of cronyism to justify that price!

magnumcromagnon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:thats like $100M per helicopter.

Holy shit.

The Ka-52 helicopters to Egypt I believe were significantly cheaper.

The latest variant of Sea King choppers cost on average $112 million per aircraft.....that's absolutely maddening levels of cronyism to justify that price!

I remember when the Sea King choppers were dropping like flies here in Canada.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:thats like $100M per helicopter.

Holy shit.

The Ka-52 helicopters to Egypt I believe were significantly cheaper.

Take a look at the article above this one about the naval guns. Why wouldn't they sell them choppers for more than 100 million if they buy a gun worth a fucking ship ?

Thanks for pointing that out.

India is getting screwed big time on these purchases. The country is not that wealthy as the money is mostly on paper but not visible due to corruption and the overall kleptocratic system.

Their overall procurement budget is still less than that of Russia's while having a massive country needing massive number of hardware. Mix that in with them having to import most of it, its even more expensive for them.

But this is just extortion prices. US is really taking India for a ride and India is having zero complaints about it. Actually, its people think that they are buying quality.

And that, is a reflection of the nation as a whole. When I was there, a lot of rich people drive Jaguars and audies. Both of which rate very poor in the lemon guide due to being rather built like shit. So I guess the military isnt much different - reminds me of Canadas military - Gwagons which are overpriced shit, our Sea King helicopters which kept crashing and our Leopard 2 Tanks which are decent but very expensive.

India purchases additional American weapons for P-8I aircraft

 On April 13, 2020, the US Department of Defense Agency for Defense Cooperation (DSCA) sent to the US Congress notifications of the planned upcoming sale of India through the American program of intergovernmental foreign military sales (FMS) of ten Boeing AGM-84L aircraft anti-ship missiles Harpoon Block II and 16 anti-submarine torpedoes Raytheon Mk 54 LWT caliber 324 mm. The armament is intended for the armed forces of the Indian Navy and the additionally acquired American base patrol aircraft Boeing P-8I Neptune (Poseidon). This shipment is approved by the US Department of State.

   The total cost of the proposed delivery will be $ 92 million for Harpoon Block II missiles and $ 63 million for Mk 54 torpedoes (except for 16 combat torpedoes, five practical torpedoes will be included in the delivery).

   On the bmpd side, we recall that in 2012-2015, the Indian Navy received eight American P-8I base patrol aircraft under a 2009 contract worth $ 2.1 billion (since 2017 they have been in service with the 312nd squadron of Indian naval aviation) and ordered 2016, for $ 1.1 billion, four more R-8I aircraft with delivery in 2021-2022. In June 2019, the Indian Ministry of Defense approved the acquisition of another ten US P-8I Poseidon base patrol aircraft (Indian name - Neptune) for the Indian Navy for an amount of about $ 3 billion, although later there were reports of an intention for financial reasons to reduce the number of additional P aircraft purchased -8I to six.

   India had previously acquired the US Harpoon Block II anti-ship missile. Under the FMS program, in 2010, for $ 170 million, 20 AGM-84L Harpoon Block II aircraft anti-ship missiles were ordered to equip the upgraded Jaguar IM fighter-bomber, and in 2012 - 21 such missiles for the first eight R-based base patrol aircraft acquired by India 8I. Deliveries of all of these missiles of India were carried out in 2013-2014. Another 12 Harpoon Block II missiles in the UGM-84L encapsulated version for launching from torpedo tubes were contracted in 2015 to equip four Indian submarines of the German HDW Type 1500 project.

   For the first eight Indian P-8I aircraft in 2012, 32 anti-submarine torpedoes Mk 54 were also purchased through the FMS line for $ 86 million.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3993579.html