Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship

Fourth ship is starting trials

Patrol ship "Sergei Kotov" at sea

Reports that Sergei Kotov has conducted artillery fire exercises from main 76mm gun.
Picture of ship as seen near Sevastopol a few days ago:

Today is pr. 22160 "Porn day"

First a short video:



Then a photo of the SERGEI KOTOV entering Sevastopol earlier this month:



Then, some extra-large size photos of the ship which is about to enter service in the Black Sea Fleet:
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I have seen videos of a ship carrying a TOR module on the aft deck, just chained down and operating from that position.

Is it possible that this ship in the event of hostilities can carry 2, UKSK containers in the lower hull storage with 8 kalibr missiles, and then on top there would still be room to have a TOR module operating from the aft deck ? Is there room on that deck for a TOR and the kalibr missiles to be used simultaneously

I'd also like to ask would Pal and positiv radars ok n board bykov be able to network with standalone tor module similar to other battle management systems in RF inventories? Could bykov cue through it's own radars targetting info for a standalone tor

Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

Arkanghelsk wrote:Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

This class was designed with Shtil AA system but Navy requested that first batch of ships should have accommodation for additional marine complement be installed there instead

Arkanghelsk wrote:Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

A Tor-M2 module was tested onboard Adm. Grigorovich.




This version of Tor can be used from any platform. Sort of plug-in and shoot.

I have seen videos of a ship carrying a TOR module on the aft deck, just chained down and operating from that position.

Helicopter spots have tie down points, and probably also data/power connectors as well, so it makes sense to take advantage of an existing setup.

I'd also like to ask would Pal and positiv radars ok n board bykov be able to network with standalone tor module similar to other battle management systems in RF inventories? Could bykov cue through it's own radars targetting info for a standalone tor

Technically a Russian ship is an IADS, so its main search radars equate to search radars, and the systems for Redut should allow target data sharing with this which is essentially a TOR vehicle with its engine and tracks removed.

The TOR mount seems to have the search and tracking radar so all it would need would be a cue from the main radar as to where to look for the most threatening air target in range.

I have seen other versions that look like they are more integrated with the ship where one piece looks like the turret alone with the tracking radar and missiles, while other bins with just missiles and no radar at all can be colocated... presumably the search function is taken over by the ships radars and the tracking portion tracks targets while the extra bins can be located on the deck around the ship to increase ready to use ammo.

Guys I have tried looking through this thread and j found no mention of the TOR being able to be brought on thIs ship as last ditch AD , can anyone shed some light on this

What they are doing is new, but what they used to do and is widely done elsewhere is that a ground based system like Shilka or TOR is parked on the deck of a ship to improve air defence performance... these experiments with stripped down shelterised models might lead to permanent or modular systems that can be placed or removed as required...

Viktor Veliky inside the factory:
Phot is more than 1 year old (December 2020)
Ship should be ready for launch (if not already done without fanfare).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10586145/Cheering-Ukrainian-navy-hits-Russian-war-ship-Black-Sea-Odessa.html

"Russian ship Vasily Bykov was said to have been hit in the Black Sea overnight
Video appeared to show defence forces in Odessa exchanging fire with ships"

The guy is lying. Walle is a piece of shit honestly. Known liar and has zero knowledge of Economics, military or about anything.

The ship in question was reported earlier in the other thread. It was said to be the attack earlier on trading vessels.

miketheterrible wrote:The guy is lying. Walle is a piece of shit honestly. Known liar and has zero knowledge of Economics, military or about anything.

The ship in question was reported earlier in the other thread. It was said to be the attack earlier on trading vessels.

How about we ban you insted.

About the article about the ship im sure we soon find out the truth.

The Ukranians have mentioned alot of lies throughout this campaign. I mean 'The ghost of Kiev' was found to be another lie as his footage shooting down 7 Russian aircraft was from a video game. The Ukrainians also mention tht Russians are killing civilians, but do not mention the Biden sponsored Neo-Nazi group Azov, which had kiiled 14k Russian civilians when in a cease Fire.

So judging from the evidence and the lies Ukrainian officials have spewed, this hitting a Russian patrol vessel is absolute bull.

Walle you are correct the truth will be exposed soon, but i believe Ukraine didnt hit the ship. They are known liars.

Is papadragon banned permanently? Let that guy in Garry, we will handle him

Arkanghelsk wrote:Is papadragon banned permanently? Let that guy in Garry, we will handle him

I doubt papadragon got banned. I think he just stopped posting.

Navy fanboy wrote:The Ukranians have mentioned alot of lies throughout this campaign. I mean 'The ghost of Kiev' was found to be another lie as his footage shooting down 7 Russian aircraft was from a video game. The Ukrainians also mention tht Russians are killing civilians, but do not mention the Biden sponsored Neo-Nazi group Azov, which had kiiled 14k Russian civilians when in a cease Fire.

So judging from the evidence  and the lies Ukrainian officials have spewed, this hitting a Russian patrol vessel is absolute bull.

Walle you are correct the truth will be exposed soon, but i believe Ukraine didnt hit the ship. They are known liars.  

i mean yeah the "evidence" is grad firing in pitch black and fire in the distance.

That doesnt prove anything i mean Russian ships have missile defences to make it look like a ship was hit by a missile. not too sure if vessel has this system, as it would have fooled the Ukrainians

I would say being a daily fail article the level of fact checking is likely 2 year old child level... I am surprised there are no dragons in the story...

Grad rockets would be rather difficult to aim at a ship, but would also be relatively difficult for that ship to deal with... but being a modern ship it will have radar and thermals and could quickly determine where the rockets came from and fire a burst from its main gun in response.... the chance of a volley of 122mm rockets doing serious damage is not high simply because most are designed to penetrate small bits of heavy armour filled with people and fuel and explosive or to deliver shrapnel around the place... neither of which would be very useful against a real ship except in enormous concentrations.

The video proves it is idiotic.

As of Slava Intel the patrol ship that was "hit" by a Grau missile arrived in Sevastopol without a scratch. Will find video on phone to post on here

I entered the Russian military forum "balancer.ru" today and saw that this topic is current. It stands, the forum is just a forum, while the decisions of Russian planners at the top of the military and the Russian navy are far more important.
I think that the Russians will most likely rearm the patrol ships of the 22160 project in the near future.
This picture shows a model of that ship with the eight-barrel UKSK and the "Redut" (each side wit 8 missiles) air defense system, which is located on the side of the ship, behind the motor boat and in the part between the helicopter accommodation hangars. Also, this model has two four-barrel torpedoes with the Paket-NK system.



I know that there was a model showing two eight-barrel UKSK (16 in total), but I think that is unnecessary. The ship has a smaller displacement than the project 20380 corvette and especially the project frigate 22350.