Interlinked wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Probly the one that got captured?
You mean it's the one the SAA recaptured from Nusra?
For reals, dang, now i wish there were more pics to find out what hit it.
Interlinked wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:Probly the one that got captured?
You mean it's the one the SAA recaptured from Nusra?
GarryB wrote:Doesn't really matter what hit it, but if it was the captured T-90 that didn't seem to turn its turret much wasn't it hit in the side of the turret by a T-72 of the Syrian Army?
It blew its top which suggests the crew made the mistake of storing ammo in the turret...
Why should this be considered "wild speculation"?
GarryB wrote:
You said we should not speculate before we have more information and then you speculated as to what you thought happened based on what you can see in the image.
You are the only one who said anything about wild speculation?
The turret is some distance away from the hull and clearly didn't just move there on its own.
The angle of the photo seems to suggest an impact or explosion in the direction the turret has travelled from the hull but the whole vehicle is not rubble so I doubt it was an aerial bomb that did this.
I would say the vehicle was hit and ammo inside it blew the turret up and forward from the point of penetration/explosion.
Perhaps I should claim Russian Hackers did it...
speculation
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Interlinked wrote:All my observations are based on evidence.
The turret is detached - that is not speculation. It's literally detached.
The ammo blew up - that is not speculation. The turret ring is bent upward and the turret is detached.
The tank was hit from the left - that is not speculation. There is a building blocking the right side of the tank. Nothing could possible hit it from the right.
All this can be seen in the photo
In this context, speculation would be saying that an ATGM hit it, or an RPG hit it, or a PGM hit it. There is nothing to confirm or deny any of these guesses.
There is no need to antagonize me, Garry. We are all tank enthusiasts here.
In this context, speculation would be saying that an ATGM hit it, or an RPG hit it, or a PGM hit it. There is nothing to confirm or deny any of these guesses.
GarryB wrote:
there was a report of the T-90 in ISIS hands being taken out recently by a Syrian Army T-72... do you have any reason to believe this is not it?
In which case it would not be a missile or rocket but a 125mm round... which therefore becomes another possibility that this photo does not rule out.
KiloGolf wrote:Interlinked wrote:All my observations are based on evidence.
The turret is detached - that is not speculation. It's literally detached.
The ammo blew up - that is not speculation. The turret ring is bent upward and the turret is detached.
The tank was hit from the left - that is not speculation. There is a building blocking the right side of the tank. Nothing could possible hit it from the right.
All this can be seen in the photo
In this context, speculation would be saying that an ATGM hit it, or an RPG hit it, or a PGM hit it. There is nothing to confirm or deny any of these guesses.
There is no need to antagonize me, Garry. We are all tank enthusiasts here.
Apparently after tasting some revenge on watching incompetent Turkish crews getting their Leos shish kebabed by IS, the fanboy base thought the T-90 was some sort invincible machine not prone to the classic T-series ammo cook-off and turret detachment.
Alas for them, the time for T-90 came and it wasn't enemy air support, etc.
GunshipDemocracy wrote:oh no this must be fake right? Russian hackers probably
AlfaT8 wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:oh no this must be fake right? Russian hackers probably
Those must be some God-level hackers, but seriously what hit this thing, was there an Msta-S or a Khrizantema nearby?
It was in Iraq as far as I remember. Unfortunately not manned by US forces. Previous 2 for Yemen according to pics subtitles.
AlfaT8 wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:oh no this must be fake right? Russian hackers probably
Those must be some God-level hackers, but seriously what hit this thing, was there an Msta-S or a Khrizantema nearby?
Isos wrote:They have the record for the disstance of the turret and the tanks after seperation (it was an IED)
Kilogolf wrote:US airstriked some disabled M1 MBTs so as not to fall to the wrong hands.AlfaT8 wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:oh no this must be fake right? Russian hackers probably
Those must be some God-level hackers, but seriously what hit this thing, was there an Msta-S or a Khrizantema nearby?
The-thing-next-door wrote:Weren,t the T-90s given to Syria the T-90S export variant with its severeley downgraded armor and not the T-90A Russian army variant?