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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:23 am

    eehnie wrote:...................

    Russia knows perfectly who is doing what. If the US attacks the Syrian Armed Forces, the retaliation will go to the US paramilitary forces. Not to the Kurds.


    Russia/USA shooting at Russia/USA?

    Good luck with that.

    Kurds are there to soak up the bullets. And soak them up they will.
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    Post  AbdulhamidtheSecond Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:25 am

    eehnie wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:eehnie doing damage control for the Kurd's advance.... Laughing Laughing

    "Evil U.S is making them do it...swear" "It's all a big intoxication racket by the U.S"

    No my friend. It has always been about one thing and one thing only, Kurdistan. Grabbing land (with oil fields for income for a future "economy)" is a pre-requesite. The U.S provides the umbrella for protection they need. The U.S in return gets a new base of operations in the M.E and weakens both Syria/Iraq...while strategically positioning itself to wreck havoc and destebilize both Turkey(if need be) and Iran. Israel will cheer along and help in this endevour, as will the monarchies with vested interests in seeing Iran weakened to avoid getting swallowed by the Shia crescent and all that it accompanies. Textbook great game chess plays.

    Russia's position continues to be muddy on this issue, and particularly weak. Unless the Russians are in on the racket as well, ultimately agreeing with the U.S on many fronts - mainly that curtailing Iran's geopolitical control (and its growth) is beneficial for itself, as well as gaining a dagger with which to poke and stab Turkey (long time foe). That Syria and Iraq get to be sacrificial lambs is, well,collateral damage. Could the Russian elite rationalize something like this? Absolutely, despite what we, ourselves, might want to project as the Russian position, i.e the noble one buried in some strategic 6D Chess.

    At this point in the game, both Syria/Iraq have little in say to change the game (as weak and dependent as they're now). The Kurd issue is ultimately an Iranian/Turkish/Iraqui/Syrian problem. Never trust Russia/China/U.S to fix it for ya. The big powers will play their little geopolitical games and will feast on the division, ineptness and lack of decisive action as a united front on this issue - aka you'll get fucked over - it's after all, not their land they're playing with, but a foreign playground.

    Lol, the Turkish SeigSoloyvov here

    Russia knows perfectly who is doing what. If the US attacks the Syrian Armed Forces, the retaliation will go to the US paramilitary forces. Not to the Kurds.



    Are you naive to think US would send its own troops to frontline? They were pushing like hell the SDF parties mostly composed of kurds to intervene in DeZ battle. If they had their own, what would be their reason to compromise critical time for resource pursuit?

    Even if they have their own mercenaries, ratio would be like 1 US operative vs 50 kurdish/sdf militant. What is the plan then?

    I bet none of the Kurdish-lovers here dont know what kind of mindset a seperatist kurd has. Secret kurds here cannot hide themselves anymore.

    I really wonder what will be their reaction when Russia will have to obey US warnings regarding Kurds, I bet those seperatist fanboys will claim it is "strategic thinking"

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:11 am

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-whole-army-isis-wiped-breaking-deir-ezzor-siege/
    VIDEO: Whole army of ISIS wiped out in breaking Deir Ezzor siege

    DAMASCUS, SYRIA (4:00 P.M.) – Breaking ISIS siege on the eastern city of Deir Ezzor proved to be extremely costly for the terror group which had deployed hundreds of its fully-equipped militants with their equipment to curb the Syrian Army advance.

    However, the unparalleled fire power unleashed by the Syrian Armed forces – supported by Russian air power – has turned ISIS army into a burnt-out scrap.

    A video released recently on social media clearly shows dozens of charred and destroyed vehicles, tanks and VBIEDs for the Islamic State just outside the government-held 137 Brigade.


    According to a military source, the government forces are amassing troops and equipment to retake the rest of ISIS-held districts in the oil-rich province.
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:19 am

    500 or 1500kg bomb?

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:20 am

    Who are these guys?

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    Happening now in Aleppo IAP


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    Post  par far Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:21 am

    Do we know if the SAA and Allies have crossed the river?
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:21 am

    calm wrote:500 or 1500kg bomb?
    Good way to disable a tank tho' Smile
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:22 am

    par far wrote:Do we know if the SAA and Allies have crossed the river?
    Site unknown as yet


    Hassan Ridha‏ @sayed_ridha 1h1 hour ago

    SAA & Russian forces are preparing the pontoon bridges that arrived to DeirEzzor city to begin crossing the Euphrates River


    EDIT ADDED

    This decision comes as SDF captured the 113 Brigade today and are in outskirts of al-Salihiyah town

    The deconfliction line between the Syrian Army and SDF mediated by RU-US is not fixed on Euphrates Valley, it is based on areas of control


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:24 am

    Raqqa from the 17th July to yesterday. Still a way to go yet.

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    Another version

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:26 am

    Natty vehicle, perfect for the job, unfortunately.

    Mohamed Mansour‏Verified account @Mansourtalk Sep 9

    Jaysh Usud al-Sharqiya's armed group using a #US supplied Polaris MRZR-D2 ATV in #Suwayda eastern countryside against #SAA


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:43 am

    Also posted in the S-400 thread asking if it looked like one.

    Samir‏ @obretix 2h2 hours ago
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    new satellite image of suspected Russian air defense missile installation near Masyaf (2017-08-28) http://wikimapia.org/#lat=35.165240&lon=36.262740&z=17&m=b …


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:44 am

    Leith Abou Fadel‏Verified account @leithfadel 2h2 hours ago

    According to a military source in Deir Ezzor: most of Jafra has been liberated by the Republican Guard.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:48 am

    Oooops

    Ivan Sidorenko‏ @IvanSidorenko1 15h15 hours ago

    #Syria #DeirEzZor Brigadier General Issam Zahreddine got alot of backlash on Social Media from #Syrian Civilans after what he said yesterday


    Replying to @IvanSidorenko1

    #Syria #DeirEzZor Brigadier General Issam Zahreddine Released a Statement Today Explaining what he meant by his Statement on TV Yesterday.



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    Post  calm Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:26 pm

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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:18 pm

    calm wrote:Syrian War: News #15 - Page 17 DJiCKCrVwAAGSXV

    IS just magically collapsed, opened the doors and let SDF in. No firefights, no ATGM launches and no videos of clashes.
    All that in less than 2 days Rolling Eyes

    How stupid do both of these non-state actors think we are? dunno
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:28 pm

    What happened to uqayribat? Is it still under ISIS control? I thought that once it was taken, ISIS wouldn't have tactical positioning to do more counterattacks there.
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:21 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:What happened to uqayribat? Is it still under ISIS control? I thought that once it was taken, ISIS wouldn't have tactical positioning to do more counterattacks there.

    SAA is capturing 1/2 villages every day.


    @JohninMK all about Russia post in second thread.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:56 pm

    calm wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:What happened to uqayribat? Is it still under ISIS control? I thought that once it was taken, ISIS wouldn't have tactical positioning to do more counterattacks there.

    SAA is capturing 1/2 villages every day.


    @JohninMK all about Russia post in second thread.

    So the whole concern of uqayribat being recaptured is SOHR propaganda?
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    Post  calm Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:03 pm

    Yes, 50-40% of pocket left. Some 50 small villages. They should be done in a one or two weeks.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:47 pm


    Turkish TRT and International news agencies, including Reuters withdraws its correspondents from Idlib

    https://twitter.com/hnn_aleppo/status/907646669759578112
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:19 pm

    calm wrote:
    @JohninMK all about Russia post in second thread.
    Sorry, that slipped through.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:53 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:

    IS just magically collapsed, opened the doors and let SDF in. No firefights, no ATGM launches and no videos of clashes.
    All that in less than 2 days Rolling Eyes

    How stupid do both of these non-state actors think we are? dunno

    Correct.
    It shows Trump does not control its military , he can pressure generals to do things ,
    here or there but not completely change the Pentagon and CIA agenda.. im surprised ,
    how Syrian army was allowed to connect to IRAQ.. that wasn't supposed to happen.
    Israel Netanyahu was furious about it.. and even more Israel media and its right wing elite.
    So it seems there is a major division on the military ..some follow trump and others
    follow the warmonger in Congress demands. and naturally  such division is keep in silence
    to the american public .

    A major interesting proof of this is the anecdote of a former CIA officer on Russian media
    RT.. where he told the CIA director was reporting any new information of intelligence
    to the President to Trump Directly. without intermediaries.. and he told that never happened.
    except very rare times , in many years he was in the agency.. but now is done on a daily basis.
    It shows Trump don't trust in the CIA loyalty ,many Obama /deep states agents there ,
    and only wants his reports directly from the director ,that he personally recruited to lead the agency.

    And of course the Congress Sanctions on Russia  a full economic blockade on any future
    energy business between Russia and Europe. bypassing Trump presidency is another
    indication..that there is a divided government in US..and there are factions in all Government
    agencies doing things at the back of the President.

    My best guess is that we will see in next couple of weeks in September or October , the final outcome of the Syrian conflict or if the Pentagon have a new plan ,to restart the fight from another direction. like from Israel side or Jordan. or IRAQ. or just push the kurds into a fight
    With Syrian army and Russia.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:15 pm

    Looks like the SDF is close enough to cutting ISIS off on the east bank of the river and are splitting their force so that some will strike south. They probably know where the SAA is going to cross and are trying to head them off.

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    EDIT

    Found this. South of the Tahia village top right looks to be the place they could be racing to.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:31 pm

    Different view on crossing the river.

    Lucifuge Rofocale‏ @rofoca_lucifuge 2h2 hours ago

    #Breaking DeirEzzor: #SAA #Russian forces are preparing the pontoon bridges. They are about to cross the Euphrates River-Marat-Sabhah.


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    Lucifuge Rofocale‏ @rofoca_lucifuge 2h2 hours ago

    #Breaking Al Jurah&Jafrah in DeirEzzor fully recaptured & secured. SDF in race to grab as much as possible land for the future negotiations


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    Post  ATLASCUB Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:53 pm

    https://www.occrp.org/en/makingakilling/the-pentagon-is-spending-2-billion-on-soviet-style-arms-for-syrian-rebels

    Revealed: The Pentagon Is Spending Up To $2.2 Billion on Soviet-Style Arms for Syrian Rebels (personal edit: currently/future wise...mostly the Kurds)

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    Pretty good article of what can be traced on paper.... Kurds getting some nice infusion of weapons/cash. Obviously this is what a journalist can trace..... there is a lot that's not getting traced...you can be sure of that.

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