S-300P/400 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

PapaDragon wrote:

They won't be concerned, USA already knows everything it wants about these export versions (China, Belarus)

This was taken into calculation when sales were made

It would be simpler for USA to just buy new one from Russia, they would sell it no problem

Ankara will not be able to sell Washington S-400 air defense system without consent from Moscow , said the official representative of the Federal service for military-technical cooperation (FSMTC) Maria Vorobyova.

She explained that in order to export military products, the buyer of equipment must submit an end-user certificate to the Russian side, Interfax reports.

https://www.nakanune.ru/news/2020/07/01/22577554/

The US politicians are only suggesting it because they think that, due to the huge benefits of the F-35 program, the only thing stopping Turkey is the money they have spent on the S-400 so buying it from Turkey would allow Turkey to return to the fold.

Assume any exported technology is compromised.

GarryB wrote:Awesome picture... it makes it clear that a tube big enough to carry Rif and Rif-M which are S-300 sized missiles could also carry four S-350 missiles in it the way they are sometimes fitted to S-400 tubes before the S-350 TELs were ready, but it also shows that the S-300V missiles (the two middle vehicles) are both different from the S-300 and S-400 missiles.

What is not obvious is the other difference... the two outer vehicles are wheeled trucks and the two vehicles in the middle are tracked vehicles like tanks.

Mindstorm wrote:
Игорь Коротченко say that competitors of C-500 will not appear abroad before 15-20 years and that its maximum altitude of interception will be around 270-300 km


https://vpk.name/news/416538_ishodya_iz_harakteristik_s-500_ee_budut_primenyat_v_kachestve_elementa_mobilnoi_strategicheskoi_pro.htmlhttps://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/06/19/13123189.shtml

Today, Russia is engaged in the development of a landfill base in the regions of the country, but this is far from a quick and very costly way.

While some unresolved technical problems are affecting the Nudoli adoption period, the entry into the S-500 troops is mainly due to the imperfection of the training base.

“The task of“ shooting off ”this system in full, especially in the near space, and with the corresponding target situation, has yet to be solved. But there are no technological problems associated with the adoption of the S-500. Nevertheless, the receipt of both systems to equip the Russian army in 2021 should be assessed as a period colored by a fair amount of optimism, ”a high-ranking source in the Russian defense industry explained to Gazeta.ru.

The S-500 "Prometheus" anti-aircraft missile system (55R6M "Triumfator-M") is being developed by the Almaz-Antey Concern for Aerospace Defense as a new generation of air defense and missile defense systems. The S-500 is supposed to apply the principle of separate solution to the tasks of destroying ballistic and aerodynamic targets.

As Pavel Sozinov , general designer of the Almaz-Antey East-Kazakhstan Concern, told in an interview with Gazeta.ru , “the S-500 anti-aircraft missile system is not just a repetition of the systems of previous generations in the next technical and technological edition. The S-500 air defense system is classified as a 5th generation system, and it will solve missile defense missions as well.

We strive to significantly exceed in many respects the achievements that the Americans realized in the THAAD mobile missile defense system. Another task of the "Five Hundred" is to further increase the capabilities in the field of air defense.

Compared with the S-400, the new system will be completely different constructively and technically, it will have new location and computing facilities, new anti-aircraft guided missiles. "


Another important point, said the general designer of the Concern East Kazakhstan Almaz-Antey, and this is a global trend - the basic modes of operation in the S-500 air defense system will be automatic.

That is, the intervention of a human operator in the course of combat work is assumed, but the main mode of all S-500 assets separately, and the system as a whole, is automatic. Only in this case can the desired result be achieved by repelling the impact of modern airspace attack equipment, especially in the conditions of massive raids and in difficult conditions of an interference environment, the general designer explained.

Technological support is equally important, says Pavel Sozinov.

S-500 is a large scientific and industrial-technological program, and not just designing a system of prefabricated elements.

“It is clear that in order to achieve unique in the class of mobile air defense / missile defense capabilities, an advanced technological platform is needed. We have it, ”the general designer emphasized.

As part of the S-500 air defense system it is planned to have: command and control facilities: combat control point 85ZH6-1, early warning radar 60K6; air defense module: command post 55K6MA, radar 91N6AM, launchers 51P6M, anti-aircraft guided missiles 40N6M; missile defense module: combat control point 85ZH6-2, 76T6 and 77T6 radar with active phased array (AFAR), launchers 77P6; missiles 77N6-N and 77N6-H1 (developed by OJSC MKB Fakel).

As for the Nudoli, this system has the ability to fire at targets in near space, and its anti-missiles will be equipped with both special and conventional warheads.

https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/06/19/13123189.shtml

GarryB wrote:I suspect to maximise performance they likely split the tasks of in space manouvering and non manouvering targets and inside the atmosphere manouvering and non manouvering targets.

The S-300V system has a small missile and a big missile... the difference is basically a solid rocket booster... the big one has a bigger booster while the smaller missile has a smaller booster.

the bigger booster gives the bigger missile more energy to engage targets at longer ranges and higher altitudes and together they can engage a wider range of targets than either missile could manage on their own.

When they say unmanned platforms they don't mean hand held drones 5km away... they will be meaning HALES and MALES and hypersonic unmanned bombers or cruise missiles...

Furthermore, the ability of a single battery to operate independent of an air defence network should not be understated.

Isos wrote:the s-300 that is listening 100km away with radar turned off and waiting informations about any plane entering in its engagement zone. Then it locks on you and launch a missile while you think there is no AD there.

RTN wrote:

Isos wrote:the s-300 that is listening 100km away with radar turned off and waiting informations about any plane entering in its engagement zone. Then it locks on you and launch a missile while you think there is no AD there.

Listening with radar turned off would mean what? The S -300 battery is receiving information about the enemy aircraft, missile from other sources like space based assets?

Hole wrote:The domestic version is capable of using the 40N6 missile, which is not exported.