S-300P/400 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

Isos wrote:Lol that's just like in DCS which is a russian made simulator. Aircraft and air defence system are made with public data and you can program how good planes/AD are.



Note: all the air force around the world use this russian made DCS to train for free their pilots. French air force asked for the rafale to be developed for its needs not accessible to the public with real data provided to the company making it.

Amateur dickheads that love masturbating in front of planes use US microsoft flysimulator thinking they are real pilots. Professionals use russian DCS. I guess they are good at something those ruskies.

I wish DCS would model more soviet aricraft like the Su-22, Mig-23, MiG-25, but they'll never do it since russophobic boomers in the west who drool over top gun are their market demographic so only resources are spent on adding aircraft that this demographic likes.

a friendly reminder that Su-35's radar does have a mode to distinguish between actual aircraft and towed decoys. Too bad the interview is no longer online.

limb wrote:Another idiotic simulation using data from the supposedly realistic game Command Modern Air and Sea operations which is actually used by the US and British militaries, so these simulations probably make US and british pilots arrogantly confident in their abilities

The way as the S-400 used in syria is not the proper method.

Even with that, the video just pooving that any war can be win if you have more man and weapon than the enemy, and can afford to send endless ammount of soldiers to the battlefield.


One important takeway is the video showing 20 billion dollars of equipment , with more than 1 billion dollars yearly maintanace cost challenging 1 less than 1 billion worth of equipment , with few 10 millions yearly maintenance cost.


Example how could the battle plan change if the carrier sink due to few torpedo from a submarine ?

Could the planes just turn back to reach the closest strip ?

And what happens if the cost and size of equipment match the agressor ?

Like, 10-20 battlion of S-400 in radar silence and random position, strategic radars, coastal batteries with P-800, and so on ?

So, games are supposed to dictate wars?
Honestly, the video has 0.01% value and 99.99% fiction, daydream, fantasy, koolaid etc.

I want my time back.

Krepost wrote:So, games are supposed to dictate wars?
Honestly, the video has 0.01% value and 99.99% fiction, daydream, fantasy, koolaid etc.

I want my time back.

Other than military expo brochures and vague reports from exercises, what else do we have?

limb wrote:

Krepost wrote:So, games are supposed to dictate wars?
Honestly, the video has 0.01% value and 99.99% fiction, daydream, fantasy, koolaid etc.

I want my time back.

Other than military expo brochures and vague reports from exercises, what else do we have?

A brain.

There is a computer term called GIGO.

It means Garbage In Garbage Out.

Anyone can create a model and that model can be coarse and basic, or it can be detailed with fidelity and precision, but if the model gets things wrong, like the fact that F-35 are invisible... when we know for a fact Israeli F-35s don't operate over Syrian airspace and use standoff weapons from hidden locations in neighbouring countries the same as they did with conventional fighters... suggests that the F-35 is not worth the cost and its extreme cost that will likely bankrupt most countries that adopt that aircraft as their primary fighter suggests it is going to do more harm to the owner than any potential enemies... but of course will be totally awesome for the bottom line of American contract companies that support its operations and makes components and disposable materials the aircraft needs to be stealthy...

If you make a plane that is not stealthy stealthy then of course it is going to be able to do all sorts of things that will not be possible in real life.

Realism of course is scary too, so 50% of the F-35s not available because of faults would effect the rules too.

You would think if they are invincible that the US would have some based in the Ukraine protecting their new allies from Russian aggression... one step over the line and they will go to Moscow to iron bomb the Kremlin and escape before even being detected... hahahaha....

EKATERINBURG, January 12. / TASS /. The anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Central Military District (CVO), stationed in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, will receive the upgraded S-300PM2 Favorit anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) by the end of 2022. Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, commander of the Central Military District, announced this to journalists on Wednesday.

"The modernized S-300PM2 Favorit air defense systems, comparable in their combat characteristics to the S-400 Triumph, will enhance the combat capabilities of covering the airspace in Eastern Siberia," he said. Lapin added that the new technology, in comparison with the previous version, has a greater range of detection and destruction of targets, is capable of simultaneously directing a larger number of missiles and firing at a larger number of targets.

The press service of the Central Military District clarified that the S-300PM2 is a deep modernization of the S-300 complex. The updated air defense systems are distinguished by increased noise immunity, they are equipped with a new multifunctional radar station, a mobile command post, a guidance station and new missiles.

This should be the 388th Guards regiment stationed outside of Achinsk. The 1534th regiment at Angarsk completed it's upgrade to S-300PM2's last year. I also noticed that the 1723rd regiment outside of Chita recently was involved in a training exercise and their weapon system was called the Favorit. They presently have the 300PS like the 388th regiment. Have not heard anything else in this regards however.

Two sets of S-400 and S-350 air defense systems were handed over to the troops in the fourth quarter (lasst three months) of 2021

MOSCOW, January 20. /TASS/. Two regimental sets of S-400 and S-350 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) were received by the Aerospace Forces (VKS) in the fourth quarter of last year, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko said on Thursday.

“In the interests of the Aerospace Forces, two regimental sets of anti-aircraft missile systems S-400 and S-350, three divisional sets of anti-aircraft missile and gun systems (ZRPK) Pantsir-S were delivered,” Krivoruchko reported to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on Thursday at a single day of acceptance of military products.


https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/13477449

Podlodka77 wrote:EKATERINBURG, January 12. / TASS /. The anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Central Military District (CVO), stationed in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, will receive the upgraded S-300PM2 Favorit anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) by the end of 2022. Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, commander of the Central Military District, announced this to journalists on Wednesday.

"The modernized S-300PM2 Favorit air defense systems, comparable in their combat characteristics to the S-400 Triumph, will enhance the combat capabilities of covering the airspace in Eastern Siberia," he said. Lapin added that the new technology, in comparison with the previous version, has a greater range of detection and destruction of targets, is capable of simultaneously directing a larger number of missiles and firing at a larger number of targets.

The press service of the Central Military District clarified that the S-300PM2 is a deep modernization of the S-300 complex. The updated air defense systems are distinguished by increased noise immunity, they are equipped with a new multifunctional radar station, a mobile command post, a guidance station and new missiles.

Wonder where the S400 regiment is going to?

franco wrote:

Podlodka77 wrote:EKATERINBURG, January 12. / TASS /. The anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Central Military District (CVO), stationed in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, will receive the upgraded S-300PM2 Favorit anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) by the end of 2022. Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, commander of the Central Military District, announced this to journalists on Wednesday.

"The modernized S-300PM2 Favorit air defense systems, comparable in their combat characteristics to the S-400 Triumph, will enhance the combat capabilities of covering the airspace in Eastern Siberia," he said. Lapin added that the new technology, in comparison with the previous version, has a greater range of detection and destruction of targets, is capable of simultaneously directing a larger number of missiles and firing at a larger number of targets.

The press service of the Central Military District clarified that the S-300PM2 is a deep modernization of the S-300 complex. The updated air defense systems are distinguished by increased noise immunity, they are equipped with a new multifunctional radar station, a mobile command post, a guidance station and new missiles.

Wonder where the S400 regiment is going to?

That information will also be published, I'm sure. The BMPD blog is good at this if it doesn’t already publish TASS, because TASS is both alpha and omega after all.

Avantgarde factory S-400

About IADS and not only system so I put it here. Also posted in s-300v thread.

You will still only get one like.

JohninMK wrote:Is the S-300PM2 in effect an S-400 computers and software modified to run in the old S-30PM body? Would make sense as its hardly likely to be worn out.

S-400 evolved from the S-300 PM2

RT can be useful

owais.usmani wrote:Is that the 40N6 missile?

Yes it is the 40N6. Equipped with both an active and semi-active homing seeker.

The range improvement to around twice that of the 48N6E2 suggests a two stage weapon, or a much larger motor casing with a larger propellant load.

And if you intend to compare here is 48N6