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Syrian War: News #16
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For all the admirers of Iran, I have something nice for you:
Turkish F-16 and Iranian F-14 in formation flight
http://www.kokpit.aero/turkf16-iran-f14
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PapaDragon wrote:
For all the admirers of Iran, I have something nice for you:
Turkish F-16 and Iranian F-14 in formation flight
http://www.kokpit.aero/turkf16-iran-f14
Iran really needs to upgrade its Airforce, the F 14 would not stand a chance against what other countries have. If Iran was smart, they go all out for the Su 35s.
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Would be nice to see the Iranian air force flying Flankers that they made themselves under licence using Iranian components and Russian components.
It would also be good to see them operating RVV-BD 300km range AAMs on export versions of the MiG-31 with modern components and cooperation on a new upgraded version...
It would also be good to see them operating RVV-BD 300km range AAMs on export versions of the MiG-31 with modern components and cooperation on a new upgraded version...
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Are the SDF racing for Al-Bukamal or Abu Kamal now? Is the bridge over the Euphrates there still standing? If it is are they trying to do an Al Tabah like crossover as they could get there first given the lack of ISIS opposition they seem to face?
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JohninMK wrote:Are the SDF racing for Al-Bukamal or Abu Kamal now? Is the bridge over the Euphrates there still standing? If it is are they trying to do an Al Tabah like crossover as they could get there first given the lack of ISIS opposition they seem to face?
The one thing that I will never get is why did Russia, Iran, SAA and Allies, not cross the the Euphrates River earlier and make a push towards the Iraqi border. This would have stopped the Kurds.
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"SIX RUSSIAN TU-22M3 STRATEGIC BOMBERS CARRIED OUT MASSIVE STRIKE ON ISIS NEAR SYRIA’S AL-BUKAMAL."
https://southfront.org/six-russian-tu-22m3-strategic-bombers-carried-out-massive-strike-on-isis-near-syrias-al-bukamal/
https://southfront.org/six-russian-tu-22m3-strategic-bombers-carried-out-massive-strike-on-isis-near-syrias-al-bukamal/
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Twitter buzz there may have been a major breakthrough of the ISIS defenses in Deir Ez Zor City.
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[quote="par far"]
The Iranian F-14's could definately use an upgrade but I wouldn't throw them away just yet...together with the F-111 they were my favourite American planes
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I think Iran should get the Su-30SM. IMO, they're the best fit for their AF. And like Garry said, they could probably arrange for licence production.
I think the bridge is blown up but I'm not 100% sure....anyone know?
Another way would be if the ISIS garison changes uniforms and declares loyalty to the SDF....seems unlikely to me
PapaDragon wrote:
Iran really needs to upgrade its Airforce, the F 14 would not stand a chance against what other countries have. If Iran was smart, they go all out for the Su 35s.
The Iranian F-14's could definately use an upgrade but I wouldn't throw them away just yet...together with the F-111 they were my favourite American planes
. I think Iran should get the Su-30SM. IMO, they're the best fit for their AF. And like Garry said, they could probably arrange for licence production.
JohninMK wrote:Are the SDF racing for Al-Bukamal or Abu Kamal now? Is the bridge over the Euphrates there still standing? If it is are they trying to do an Al Tabah like crossover as they could get there first given the lack of ISIS opposition they seem to face?
I think the bridge is blown up but I'm not 100% sure....anyone know?
Another way would be if the ISIS garison changes uniforms and declares loyalty to the SDF....seems unlikely to me
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Every bridge on Euphrates is destroyed long time ago.
related
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/926073941701087232
related
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/926073941701087232
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calm wrote:Every bridge on Euphrates is destroyed long time ago.
related
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/926073941701087232
Now Iran is in a hurry and injecting troops?
Wow...
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Syrian “Awakening” towards Albu Kamal
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/10/28/syrian-awakening-towards-albu-kamal/
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/10/28/syrian-awakening-towards-albu-kamal/
Following the failure of the Iraqi Kurdish referendum and of the project to divide Iraq, the role Syria is playing comes up next for examination, even as the “Islamic State” group (ISIS) is slowly disintegrating, cornered in the border area between Deir Al-Zour and Al-bu Kamal. However, the United States seems determined to hold on to part of the Syrian territory, allowing the Syrian Kurds to control northeast Syria, especially those areas rich in oil and gas. Will this enable the US to impose a political agenda on Damascus at the end of the war?
US-backed forces advanced in north-eastern areas under ISIS control, with little or no military engagement: ISIS pulled out from more than 28 villages and oil and gas fields east of the Euphrates River, surrendering these to the Kurdish-US forces following an understanding these reached with the terrorist group. This deal was an effective way to prevent the control by the Syrian army and the resulting situation could then be later used to blackmail Damascus.
It is noteworthy that an agreement, on one hand, between the US and their Kurdish subordinated forces operating under its command, and ISIS on the other was reached with the support of local Arab tribes, the Syrian Sahawa (or awakening), similar to the Iraqi Sahwa. The US forces, with good experience in dealing with local Arab tribes, are negotiating to convince these to communicate with ISIS to handover to them the area of al-bu Kamal before it is reached by the Syrian Army or its associated forces.
The US is trying to close the border corridor between Syria and Iraq and to control a second crossing (Tanaf is the first) to cut the road on the Iranian-Hezbollah forces coming from the T2, and precede them to the last ISIS stronghold.
In fact, Iran’s plan was to rush towards Al-bu Kamal first rather than being busy with the area around Deir al-Zour, and they asked for Russian air support in the semi-desert and along the borders with Iraq. But Russia has seen the rush from Deir al-Zour to the oil and gas wells as an absolute priority and an effective plan to control energy sources first and then proceed towards Al-bu Kamal/Al-Qaim.
But the United States preceded Russia to the oil and gas Omar oilfield (9000 barrels per day) and to Coniko gas (150 million cubic feet), which ISIS then delivered to the Kurds without any resistance. The US military have great experience in negotiating with the Arab tribes in Iraq. The same tribes are also expanding in north of Syria adjoining the Iraqi Anbar, and with jihadists with whom the US have already concluded previous deals in Iraq and Syria.
The US aims from these audacious steps to impose its agenda on the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad through negotiations that are expected to become more aggressive by the beginning of the next year when the “war on terror” ends. With the loss of ISIS’s last stronghold in Al-Bu Kamal, Al-Qaim and Deir-e-Zour, only the embers of al-Qaeda (under Hay’atTahrir al- Sham) glow under the Turkish ashes. Ankara’s troops entered the northern Syrian city of Idlib – following an understanding with al-Qaeda – without any clash. This indicates that Turkey has not ended its role within Syria or the role of al-Qaeda: Ankara is expecting to play the al-Qaeda card when its forces will be asked to withdraw from Syria.
As for ISIS, the “state” project has fizzled out, so the organisation does not mind striking deals with the US (under the cover of Sunni Arab tribes in the Syrian region) as long as it can maintain what remains of its forces and move elsewhere, mainly to where the Syrian army and its allies operate. But will Damascus give in to this blackmail?
Of course the answer is: no! Damascus won’t accept the blackmail. For more than six years, Assad has been able to fight the international community and regional countries that have spent billions of dollars hoping to oust him, change the regime- and hand over power to extremists!
Today, Damascus controls the bulk of Syrian gas and oil in the Badiya (Syrian steppes) and from Tadmur to Deir Al-Zour, which gives the country enough production to satisfy the local market, but of course, without being able to export oil as was the case before the war. Thus, the Syrian army controls today a production equivalent to 3 billion dollars a year, which allows it not to import as it did in the past years of the war. Moreover, Syria is preparing to increase its oil production through contracts signed with Russia, and ready to explore oil fields off the Syrian coast, in the Mediterranean. That is supposed to allow Damascus to compensate for the current loss and negotiate with the Syrian Kurds in a “relaxed” manner without having to offer any territory.
The issue of the American presence remains unsolved, since, once the war on ISIS ended,, the US became an occupying force. Damascus’s position has therefore become stronger, especially as it did not mind reconsidering local administration of the Kurds within the control of the Syrian central government, as long as the danger of separation – as happened in Iraqi Kurdistan – is not on the table.
There is another danger that forces the Kurds to come closer to Damascus than Turkey, who’s President is determined to annex Syrian territories along its borders, especially those controlled by the Kurds. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced his intentions to move towards Kurdish Afrin, prompting the Kurds to take refuge in Russia and Damascus- and not in the arms of the US.
This and more is expected to emerge in the coming months when the most difficult phase for Damascus begins: political negotiations and the reconstruction of a country in need of over $500bn.
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Think this was the same press conference where he said 4000, no sorry 500 US troops in Syria (see next post).
ERBIL - Major General James Jarrard, the Special Operations Joint Task Force, Operation Inherent Resolve commander told reporters on Tuesday that the US will continue to support the Syrian Democratic Forces after the military defeat of ISIS, but he claimed to not know for how long.
“How long we will be there supporting the SDF is not for me to answer.” Jarrard said, “But I will say that we are committed to making sure that the region is stable and secure”
The SDF, Jarrard insists, will transition after the United States ensures that it is capable of providing security through its local civil structures. As for now, the main priority of the United States is to ensure that it can “treat the symptoms that allowed Daesh to take over this area in the first place.”
“And we are committed to supporting the SDF throughout that process,” he said.
Moreover, Jarrard also failed to provide an answer as to whether or not the US would support the SDF if the Syrian government tries to wrest control from the authorities ruling the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.
Some Kurds now fear that the US would abandon the Kurds in Syria, just as they did to the Kurds in Iraq, after Iraqi forces took over the disputed territories last month.
http://theregion.org/article/11881-coalition-general-can-t-confirm-how-long-u-s-will-continue-to-support-kurds-in-syria
ERBIL - Major General James Jarrard, the Special Operations Joint Task Force, Operation Inherent Resolve commander told reporters on Tuesday that the US will continue to support the Syrian Democratic Forces after the military defeat of ISIS, but he claimed to not know for how long.
“How long we will be there supporting the SDF is not for me to answer.” Jarrard said, “But I will say that we are committed to making sure that the region is stable and secure”
The SDF, Jarrard insists, will transition after the United States ensures that it is capable of providing security through its local civil structures. As for now, the main priority of the United States is to ensure that it can “treat the symptoms that allowed Daesh to take over this area in the first place.”
“And we are committed to supporting the SDF throughout that process,” he said.
Moreover, Jarrard also failed to provide an answer as to whether or not the US would support the SDF if the Syrian government tries to wrest control from the authorities ruling the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.
Some Kurds now fear that the US would abandon the Kurds in Syria, just as they did to the Kurds in Iraq, after Iraqi forces took over the disputed territories last month.
http://theregion.org/article/11881-coalition-general-can-t-confirm-how-long-u-s-will-continue-to-support-kurds-in-syria
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Looks pretty near the actual number to me, 503, ha, ha. Bet he got chewed out.
A senior U.S. military commander said Tuesday that 4,000 American troops are on the ground in Syria, a figure far greater than the 503 personnel the Trump administration says are deployed there. Army Maj. Gen. James B. Jarrard, who heads the U.S.-led Special Operations task force targeting the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, offered the surprising figure while briefing Pentagon-based reporters via satellite from Baghdad.
When asked to confirm the 4,000 figure, Jarrard appeared to be caught off guard. He then apologized and said the number is about 500. Eric Pahon, a Pentagon spokesman facilitating the briefing, interjected moments later, insisting the number is just 503. “The general misspoke,” Pahon told The Washington Post after the briefing. “I don’t know what 4,000 refers to. That’s nowhere near an accurate number.”
Yet it’s long been an open secret that the Pentagon has far more personnel involved in operations against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, than its publicly disclosed figures. Hundreds of additional American forces — including Special Operations troops, forward air controllers and artillery crews — moved into Syria to back up allied local forces as they prepared to assault Raqqa, which was the Islamic State’s self-declared capital until its fall this month.
Earlier this year, teams of Army Rangers were rushed to Manbij for a mission the Pentagon called “reassurance and deterrence,” which was intended to maintain peace between Syrian Kurdish forces who liberated the city and armed groups loyal to neighboring Turkey. U.S. commanders also routinely send attack helicopters into Syria and leave them there, sometimes for days at a time.
The Trump administration says there are 5,262 U.S. troops supporting war efforts in Iraq, though the number is believed to be much higher.
“It’s widely acknowledged there are more than 503 in Syria and 5,200 in Iraq,” Pahon told The Post. “These are our force management level numbers. They don’t include temporary forces.”
Jennifer Cafarella, a Syria expert at the Institute for the Study of War, said sensitivity over U.S. troop levels in Syria and Iraq dates to the Obama administration, which was determined to fight the Islamic State with a minimal American presence on the ground. “President Obama,” she said, “was forced to repeatedly scale up the U.S. role after it became clear that his initial strategy to partner with local forces could not generate the necessary outcomes without greater U.S. involvement. Whether or not Major General Jarrard’s statement was accurate, the U.S was certainly drawn deeper into Iraq and Syria than it seems was originally planned. This troop creep reflects flaws in the design of U.S. strategy against ISIS that U.S. policymakers continue to fail to recognize.”
These are not the only countries where the Pentagon appears to have manipulated deployment numbers. As the Wall Street Journal revealed in August, there are about 3,000 more troops on the ground in Afghanistan than the administration’s official tally showed. The Pentagon has faced growing pressure from Congress to be more transparent about the scope of its activities overseas, not only in the Middle East but also throughout Africa and pockets of Southeast Asia. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has promised to comply, but Jarrard’s statement Monday is likely to raise deeper suspicion among those who’ve renewed scrutiny of the military’s sprawling counterterrorism operations since the deaths of four American soldiers Oct. 4 in Niger.
Some lawmakers were taken aback by the size and scope of U.S. combat forces deployed throughout Africa. About 800 Americans are based in Niger to run counterterrorism operations and to train and advise local troops, and hundreds more U.S. forces are in other African countries.
Mattis was summoned to Capitol Hill along with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Monday for a hearing over whether to update the laws that provide authority to fight terrorist groups and detain militants on multiple continents. They presented a unified front, saying that is unnecessary. Both indicated the administration is concerned about new laws inhibiting the military’s ability to target terrorists anywhere in the world.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/10/31/a-top-u-s-general-just-said-4000-american-troops-are-in-syria-the-pentagon-says-there-are-only-500/?utm_term=.b3f0919e0f72
A senior U.S. military commander said Tuesday that 4,000 American troops are on the ground in Syria, a figure far greater than the 503 personnel the Trump administration says are deployed there. Army Maj. Gen. James B. Jarrard, who heads the U.S.-led Special Operations task force targeting the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, offered the surprising figure while briefing Pentagon-based reporters via satellite from Baghdad.
When asked to confirm the 4,000 figure, Jarrard appeared to be caught off guard. He then apologized and said the number is about 500. Eric Pahon, a Pentagon spokesman facilitating the briefing, interjected moments later, insisting the number is just 503. “The general misspoke,” Pahon told The Washington Post after the briefing. “I don’t know what 4,000 refers to. That’s nowhere near an accurate number.”
Yet it’s long been an open secret that the Pentagon has far more personnel involved in operations against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, than its publicly disclosed figures. Hundreds of additional American forces — including Special Operations troops, forward air controllers and artillery crews — moved into Syria to back up allied local forces as they prepared to assault Raqqa, which was the Islamic State’s self-declared capital until its fall this month.
Earlier this year, teams of Army Rangers were rushed to Manbij for a mission the Pentagon called “reassurance and deterrence,” which was intended to maintain peace between Syrian Kurdish forces who liberated the city and armed groups loyal to neighboring Turkey. U.S. commanders also routinely send attack helicopters into Syria and leave them there, sometimes for days at a time.
The Trump administration says there are 5,262 U.S. troops supporting war efforts in Iraq, though the number is believed to be much higher.
“It’s widely acknowledged there are more than 503 in Syria and 5,200 in Iraq,” Pahon told The Post. “These are our force management level numbers. They don’t include temporary forces.”
Jennifer Cafarella, a Syria expert at the Institute for the Study of War, said sensitivity over U.S. troop levels in Syria and Iraq dates to the Obama administration, which was determined to fight the Islamic State with a minimal American presence on the ground. “President Obama,” she said, “was forced to repeatedly scale up the U.S. role after it became clear that his initial strategy to partner with local forces could not generate the necessary outcomes without greater U.S. involvement. Whether or not Major General Jarrard’s statement was accurate, the U.S was certainly drawn deeper into Iraq and Syria than it seems was originally planned. This troop creep reflects flaws in the design of U.S. strategy against ISIS that U.S. policymakers continue to fail to recognize.”
These are not the only countries where the Pentagon appears to have manipulated deployment numbers. As the Wall Street Journal revealed in August, there are about 3,000 more troops on the ground in Afghanistan than the administration’s official tally showed. The Pentagon has faced growing pressure from Congress to be more transparent about the scope of its activities overseas, not only in the Middle East but also throughout Africa and pockets of Southeast Asia. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has promised to comply, but Jarrard’s statement Monday is likely to raise deeper suspicion among those who’ve renewed scrutiny of the military’s sprawling counterterrorism operations since the deaths of four American soldiers Oct. 4 in Niger.
Some lawmakers were taken aback by the size and scope of U.S. combat forces deployed throughout Africa. About 800 Americans are based in Niger to run counterterrorism operations and to train and advise local troops, and hundreds more U.S. forces are in other African countries.
Mattis was summoned to Capitol Hill along with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Monday for a hearing over whether to update the laws that provide authority to fight terrorist groups and detain militants on multiple continents. They presented a unified front, saying that is unnecessary. Both indicated the administration is concerned about new laws inhibiting the military’s ability to target terrorists anywhere in the world.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/10/31/a-top-u-s-general-just-said-4000-american-troops-are-in-syria-the-pentagon-says-there-are-only-500/?utm_term=.b3f0919e0f72
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Another comment on that press conference, this time from Moscow, pointing out that the General didn't really understand the geography of the area as what he said didn't make sense.
Moscow, Russia - Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said that comments made by the commander of special operations of the US-led Coalition to Combat the Islamic State, Major-General James Gerrard, are nothing short of strange.
"Commander of special operations of the US-led Coalition General Gerrard has recently outdone all of his colleague in his illusions about what is going on in eastern Syria," he said. "Anyway, it is rather strange to hear the coalition general talk geographical nonsense about ‘thousands of Arabs’ allegedly fleeing liberated Deir ez-Zor to Mayadin [southwards] and say they are heading not to the Arab-populated south but to the north."
"Especially for the command of special operations of the US coalition," the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman highlighted that Mayadin, 40 kilometers south of Deir ez-Zor, was liberated from ISIS more than two weeks ago. "That is why thousands of Syrians are not ‘fleeing’ Deir ez-Zor to that city but are returning to their homes with humanitarian aid delivered by the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the Warring Parties and international organizations," he noted. "But no Syrian seems to be willing to flee Deir ez-Zor northwards, to liberated Raqqa. Because there is no Raqqa after bombings by the US-led coalition."
General Gerrard claimed that thousands of Arabs were fleeing Deir ez-Zor to Mayadin from the Syrian government which is liberating these cities seeking shelter in the north which is controlled by the US-backed Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/russia-confused-by-us-statement-that-is.html
Which was then followed up by another article by them on others in Moscow generally throwing ridicule at the US General.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/stop-daydreaming-and-learn-some.html
Moscow, Russia - Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said that comments made by the commander of special operations of the US-led Coalition to Combat the Islamic State, Major-General James Gerrard, are nothing short of strange.
"Commander of special operations of the US-led Coalition General Gerrard has recently outdone all of his colleague in his illusions about what is going on in eastern Syria," he said. "Anyway, it is rather strange to hear the coalition general talk geographical nonsense about ‘thousands of Arabs’ allegedly fleeing liberated Deir ez-Zor to Mayadin [southwards] and say they are heading not to the Arab-populated south but to the north."
"Especially for the command of special operations of the US coalition," the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman highlighted that Mayadin, 40 kilometers south of Deir ez-Zor, was liberated from ISIS more than two weeks ago. "That is why thousands of Syrians are not ‘fleeing’ Deir ez-Zor to that city but are returning to their homes with humanitarian aid delivered by the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the Warring Parties and international organizations," he noted. "But no Syrian seems to be willing to flee Deir ez-Zor northwards, to liberated Raqqa. Because there is no Raqqa after bombings by the US-led coalition."
General Gerrard claimed that thousands of Arabs were fleeing Deir ez-Zor to Mayadin from the Syrian government which is liberating these cities seeking shelter in the north which is controlled by the US-backed Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/russia-confused-by-us-statement-that-is.html
Which was then followed up by another article by them on others in Moscow generally throwing ridicule at the US General.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/stop-daydreaming-and-learn-some.html
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Total rubbish says Moscow
MOSCOW, Russia. “There are big flaws in the work of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry and the joint UN-OPCW investigative mechanism on the use of chemical weapons in the northwestern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun,” said Mikhail Ulyanov, Non-Proliferation and Arms Control Department Director at the Russian Foreign Ministry.
During a joint press conference of the Russian Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defense, Ulyanov said that the failure of the fact-finding mission to Khan Sheikhoun and Shayrat Airbase is scandalous, adding that the report of the independent international commission can in no way be considered professional, legitimate or objective. According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the international fact-finding mission was under strong political influence of certain Western states, and thus refused to visit the allegedly affected sites in Khan Sheikhoun, as well as the Al Shayrat Airbase from where the jets that are accused of attacking Khan Sheikhoun took off.
The Ministry noted that all demands and proposals of Russia regarding the investigation were categorically ignored, stressing that all witness accounts and samples should have been taken from the scene of the alleged attack, and not provided by questionable sources close to the terrorist groups.
The Ministry pointed out that the report of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry and the UN-OPCW joint mechanism cannot be called impartial, stressing that the words contained in the report are absolutely acceptable, noting that it was simply not possible for any military jet to attack Khan Shekhoun if it were flying the exact route as described by Washington officials. In that case, any military jet would have to fly all the way around Khan Sheikhoun first, not to mention that in the case if the bomb was indeed dropped, its tail would have to remain somewhere in the area.
“It is not possible to violate the laws of physics, which is why the joint UN-OPCW investigation mechanism shouldn’t be relying on the aerial bombing story provided by Washington”, the Ministry said in its statement.
For its part, the Russian Ministry of Defense said the fact how terrorists were preparing an explosion got completely ignored, noting that the damage seen in video footage used as “evidence” shows that the damage was not caused by a bomb dropped from a plane, but rather by something which was detonated on the ground. “Any claims that Sarin gas was used are completely absurd. On the video footage that allegedly shows the scene of the attack, we can even see White Helmets’ assets walking around without any protection. Had the sarin gas indeed been released, everyone at the scene would have died immediately”, Defense Ministry said in a statement.
Both Ministries pointed out that investigators failed to prove that any bombs were dropped on the town of Khan Sheikhoun on the day of the supposed attack, noting that the arguments of the joint UN-CPCW mechanism to investigate the incident are thus very weak and have no legitimate basis, not to mention that a great number of video materials used as “evidence” were in fact provided by Al Nusra Front/Al Qaeda-linked terrorist groups.
The Russians are, however, not the only ones who object to the official Khan Sheikhoun narrative. “The level of contradictions, relating to the incident in Khan Sheikhoun is of theatrical proportions, with those who want to convince us in their narrative constantly evading any constructive debate”, a non-governmental organization Swedish Doctors for Human Rights said.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/work-of-international-fact-finding.html
MOSCOW, Russia. “There are big flaws in the work of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry and the joint UN-OPCW investigative mechanism on the use of chemical weapons in the northwestern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun,” said Mikhail Ulyanov, Non-Proliferation and Arms Control Department Director at the Russian Foreign Ministry.
During a joint press conference of the Russian Ministries of Foreign Affairs and Defense, Ulyanov said that the failure of the fact-finding mission to Khan Sheikhoun and Shayrat Airbase is scandalous, adding that the report of the independent international commission can in no way be considered professional, legitimate or objective. According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the international fact-finding mission was under strong political influence of certain Western states, and thus refused to visit the allegedly affected sites in Khan Sheikhoun, as well as the Al Shayrat Airbase from where the jets that are accused of attacking Khan Sheikhoun took off.
The Ministry noted that all demands and proposals of Russia regarding the investigation were categorically ignored, stressing that all witness accounts and samples should have been taken from the scene of the alleged attack, and not provided by questionable sources close to the terrorist groups.
The Ministry pointed out that the report of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry and the UN-OPCW joint mechanism cannot be called impartial, stressing that the words contained in the report are absolutely acceptable, noting that it was simply not possible for any military jet to attack Khan Shekhoun if it were flying the exact route as described by Washington officials. In that case, any military jet would have to fly all the way around Khan Sheikhoun first, not to mention that in the case if the bomb was indeed dropped, its tail would have to remain somewhere in the area.
“It is not possible to violate the laws of physics, which is why the joint UN-OPCW investigation mechanism shouldn’t be relying on the aerial bombing story provided by Washington”, the Ministry said in its statement.
For its part, the Russian Ministry of Defense said the fact how terrorists were preparing an explosion got completely ignored, noting that the damage seen in video footage used as “evidence” shows that the damage was not caused by a bomb dropped from a plane, but rather by something which was detonated on the ground. “Any claims that Sarin gas was used are completely absurd. On the video footage that allegedly shows the scene of the attack, we can even see White Helmets’ assets walking around without any protection. Had the sarin gas indeed been released, everyone at the scene would have died immediately”, Defense Ministry said in a statement.
Both Ministries pointed out that investigators failed to prove that any bombs were dropped on the town of Khan Sheikhoun on the day of the supposed attack, noting that the arguments of the joint UN-CPCW mechanism to investigate the incident are thus very weak and have no legitimate basis, not to mention that a great number of video materials used as “evidence” were in fact provided by Al Nusra Front/Al Qaeda-linked terrorist groups.
The Russians are, however, not the only ones who object to the official Khan Sheikhoun narrative. “The level of contradictions, relating to the incident in Khan Sheikhoun is of theatrical proportions, with those who want to convince us in their narrative constantly evading any constructive debate”, a non-governmental organization Swedish Doctors for Human Rights said.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/work-of-international-fact-finding.html
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Followed up by
Moscow, Russia - A Russian Defense Ministry official said at a joint news briefing by Russia’s Foreign Ministry, Defense Ministry and Industry and Trade Ministry in Moscow on Thursday that Russia has concluded that its impossible that the Syrian air force could have used chemical agents after studying the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) report.
"After studying the materials submitted, I see several aspects that do not allow making a conclusion that chemical weapons in the form of an air bomb were used from a Su-22 aircraft of the Syrian Air Force," the spokesman said. "All aviation bombs are made of highly alloyed steel, which bursts into small fragments when an explosive is detonated inside the bomb. On this photo, they show us as the bomb remainder an incomprehensive metal sheet that has typical folds and ruptures, which suggests that the metal is quite plastic and this is evidence that the munition was an improvised charge made of a water-supply pipe," the spokesman said.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/moscow-confirms-its-impossible-that.html
Moscow, Russia - A Russian Defense Ministry official said at a joint news briefing by Russia’s Foreign Ministry, Defense Ministry and Industry and Trade Ministry in Moscow on Thursday that Russia has concluded that its impossible that the Syrian air force could have used chemical agents after studying the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) report.
"After studying the materials submitted, I see several aspects that do not allow making a conclusion that chemical weapons in the form of an air bomb were used from a Su-22 aircraft of the Syrian Air Force," the spokesman said. "All aviation bombs are made of highly alloyed steel, which bursts into small fragments when an explosive is detonated inside the bomb. On this photo, they show us as the bomb remainder an incomprehensive metal sheet that has typical folds and ruptures, which suggests that the metal is quite plastic and this is evidence that the munition was an improvised charge made of a water-supply pipe," the spokesman said.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/moscow-confirms-its-impossible-that.html
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JohninMK wrote:Think this was the same press conference where he said 4000, no sorry 500 US troops in Syria (see next post).
ERBIL - Major General James Jarrard, the Special Operations Joint Task Force, Operation Inherent Resolve commander told reporters on Tuesday that the US will continue to support the Syrian Democratic Forces after the military defeat of ISIS, but he claimed to not know for how long.
“How long we will be there supporting the SDF is not for me to answer.” Jarrard said, “But I will say that we are committed to making sure that the region is stable and secure”
The SDF, Jarrard insists, will transition after the United States ensures that it is capable of providing security through its local civil structures. As for now, the main priority of the United States is to ensure that it can “treat the symptoms that allowed Daesh to take over this area in the first place.”
“And we are committed to supporting the SDF throughout that process,” he said.
Moreover, Jarrard also failed to provide an answer as to whether or not the US would support the SDF if the Syrian government tries to wrest control from the authorities ruling the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.
Some Kurds now fear that the US would abandon the Kurds in Syria, just as they did to the Kurds in Iraq, after Iraqi forces took over the disputed territories last month.
http://theregion.org/article/11881-coalition-general-can-t-confirm-how-long-u-s-will-continue-to-support-kurds-in-syria
And he still keeps on posting here
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DeirEzZor almost done.
Tigers & #SRG almost done in #DeirEzZor, coming soon to resume #AlbuKamal OP & pulverize #ISIS along #Euphrates.
#DeirEzZor: #SAA led by Tigers & SRG liberate Abu Abed & Sheikh Yassin, advance in Ardhi+Rashdiyah
Tigers & #SRG almost done in #DeirEzZor, coming soon to resume #AlbuKamal OP & pulverize #ISIS along #Euphrates.
#DeirEzZor: #SAA led by Tigers & SRG liberate Abu Abed & Sheikh Yassin, advance in Ardhi+Rashdiyah
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franco wrote:
And he still keeps on posting here
You talking about me?
Just trying to help make this the to go-to thread on Syria War on the Interweb
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JohninMK wrote:franco wrote:
And he still keeps on posting here
You talking about me?
Just trying to help make this the to go-to thread on Syria War on the Interweb
No, just not very good with being subtle.
I was referring to our American SS friend and suggesting he was the general.
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That would be interesting if he was but that General just seems to be in a different place to everyone else. The US military, being one of the largest bureaucracies on the planet, seems to be run by an 'interesting' bunch of (mainly) men. I would have thought that the Iraq/Syria SF boss had a better grasp that he showed. Maybe he just had a bad day, it certainly turned into one as being publically ridiculed by Moscow can't be good for the CV.franco wrote:
No, just not very good with being subtle.
I was referring to our American SS friend and suggesting he was the general.
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Lets not be too hard on the general, it's well known that the Americans tend to be geographicaly chalenged
Syrian Army Fully Liberates City of Deir ez-Zor From Daesh - Syrian Military
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201711031058777870-syrian-army-last-daesh-remnants/
Lets not be too hard on the general, it's well known that the Americans tend to be geographicaly chalenged
calm wrote: DeirEzZor almost done.
Syrian Army Fully Liberates City of Deir ez-Zor From Daesh - Syrian Military https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201711031058777870-syrian-army-last-daesh-remnants/
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Overall position of ISIS in east Syria/Iraq, looks a bit out of date now.
A better one but some claim SDF is further south than that.
A better one but some claim SDF is further south than that.
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