Syrian War: News #16

KiloGolf wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:Interesting if confirmed....maybe IS will reform in Idlib

Pro #Fsa sources saying there are great numbers of #Hts militants which joining #İsis in Northern Hama.

Now #isis holding 30+towns in Northern Hama.Hts is in very big trouble.

Except for sleeper cells,there are MANY Hts fighters that refusing to fight aganist İsis.İf thats how it goes,İsis will reach idlib

https://twitter.com/sryhaber

SAA with RuAF support will BBQ them with pleasure.

I think that's precisely the reason why they are giving them this little time out. To nicely coalesce into one big juicy target.

I know good BBQ when I see it. The secret is a good marinade and time.
Russia has the best recipe and spices for IS in Idlib.

Yup and with Christmas holidays rapidly approaching it's best to start fattening the little piggies on time. 

SAA start clearing desert area.
2000km2 captured today, 5k left.

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On the side note, Jihadi Julian has been going off the rails today (more than usual that is...) 

More ISIS "spoils of war"

Amid the seemingly never-ending discovery of hidden ISIS arms caches throughout newly liberated territories, the Syrian Arab Army has once again hit the jackpot, this time finding several large stockpiles of anti-tank guided missiles – enough it appears, to wipe out an entire tank battalion.

In total, 30 anti-tank missiles and seven launchers – technically enough to wipe out a battalion of tanks – were found throughout the area and transferred to the army’s arsenal.





Syrian Army will create new brigades with captured ISIS weapons

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-will-create-new-brigades-captured-isis-weapons/



Damn, USrael invested a lot in taking down Syria, they must be really angry at Iran and Russia now

PapaDragon wrote:'
On the side note, Jihadi Julian has been going off the rails today (more than usual that is...) 

What's he saying?

Cyberspec wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:'
On the side note, Jihadi Julian has been going off the rails today (more than usual that is...) 

What's he saying?

He is pretty much blaming Western governments​ for tacitly supporting ze evil Putin, many posts repeat themselves as well...

not a good idea to make a brigade if you can't supply it yourself and the fact they have to use captured weapons shows that

Visc wrote:More ISIS "spoils of war"

Amid the seemingly never-ending discovery of hidden ISIS arms caches throughout newly liberated territories, the Syrian Arab Army has once again hit the jackpot, this time finding several large stockpiles of anti-tank guided missiles – enough it appears, to wipe out an entire tank battalion.

In total, 30 anti-tank missiles and seven launchers – technically enough to wipe out a battalion of tanks – were found throughout the area and transferred to the army’s arsenal.





Syrian Army will create new brigades with captured ISIS weapons

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-will-create-new-brigades-captured-isis-weapons/



Damn, USrael invested a lot in taking down Syria, they must be really angry at Iran and Russia now

I really do not expect to see these weapons integrated in the Syrian military arsenals. Only the part of Sovietic/Russian production can be interesting for them.

This is the kind of weapons that habitually goes to paramilitary units, surely in the south west side of the country.

Very very likely, the two pockets that the map colorers are leaving in Iraq and to the West of the Euphrates, are territory empty of ISIS. Very, very likely the map colorers are keeping them to cover the delay of the "SDF".

If this is right, the pockets will be colored later without a real fight.

Item moved to other Syria thread



Putin meets Assad very early this morning, this time in Syria. Wonder what flightpath his plane a Tu-214 took. Looks like Sergey Shoygu is with him, quite a target! Video at link

PapaDragon wrote:

He is pretty much blaming Western governments​ for tacitly supporting ze evil Putin, many posts repeat themselves as well...

he's paid per word not contents

kvs wrote:OT:  So the US has exposed the F-22 to full profiling by Russian forces.   Russia now knows the stealth capacity of the F-22 on an
intimate basis after probing it with various EM spectra from multiple aspects.     I guess the Americans are just so full of hubris that
they are literally idiots.  Using the F-22 in the role outlined above is breathtakingly inane.   Just send up some F-18 to do the same
task and don't give away your precious stealth secrets.    

The secret is: there is very little stealth there

EDIT - Not sure what happened then. This post started out as per the next post!

Agreed, especially that raid at Deir AB. Also what happens when you get down and dirty, plus push maintenance and spares to and beyond their limits.

Note the low Su-24 loss rate tho'.

JohninMK wrote: Wyvern‏ @WyvernReports
Dec 10

#Infographic

The number of #aircraft lost by pro-#Assad forces so far in 2017 across #Syria.

v @SyrianReddit

This is a pro-beardie source and includes airframes of questionable operational status, lost on the ground.

kvs wrote:OT:  So the US has exposed the F-22 to full profiling by Russian forces.   Russia now knows the stealth capacity of the F-22 on an
intimate basis after probing it with various EM spectra from multiple aspects.     I guess the Americans are just so full of hubris that
they are literally idiots.  Using the F-22 in the role outlined above is breathtakingly inane.   Just send up some F-18 to do the same
task and don't give away your precious stealth secrets.    

CJTF-OIR claims F-22s are flying with reflectors over Syria, as there are no adequate air defences fielded by ISIS and...well... no air force at all, and airspace is quite crowded.

Militarov wrote:

kvs wrote:OT:  So the US has exposed the F-22 to full profiling by Russian forces.   Russia now knows the stealth capacity of the F-22 on an
intimate basis after probing it with various EM spectra from multiple aspects.     I guess the Americans are just so full of hubris that
they are literally idiots.  Using the F-22 in the role outlined above is breathtakingly inane.   Just send up some F-18 to do the same
task and don't give away your precious stealth secrets.    

CJTF-OIR claims F-22s are flying with reflectors over Syria, as there are no adequate air defences fielded by ISIS and...well... no air force at all, and airspace is quite crowded.

do you mean Syria or US airspace there?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Militarov wrote:

kvs wrote:OT:  So the US has exposed the F-22 to full profiling by Russian forces.   Russia now knows the stealth capacity of the F-22 on an
intimate basis after probing it with various EM spectra from multiple aspects.     I guess the Americans are just so full of hubris that
they are literally idiots.  Using the F-22 in the role outlined above is breathtakingly inane.   Just send up some F-18 to do the same
task and don't give away your precious stealth secrets.    

CJTF-OIR claims F-22s are flying with reflectors over Syria, as there are no adequate air defences fielded by ISIS and...well... no air force at all, and airspace is quite crowded.

do you mean Syria or US airspace there?

Both actually i assume. They fly in Europe with reflectors always from what i noticed and transponders on. Tho air control traffic radars should pick F-22s due to their wavelenght.

Really interesting article by Daniel Lazare. Mostly about some instances where US gov. support for terrorists in Syria was candidly described and advocated for in official or semi-official sources. Two in particular I was unaware of and are worth reading themselves; they're linked in article: A piece in FP from 2012 and a DIA report from 2015.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/08/when-washington-cheered-the-jihadists/

If true then this is one of the problems when so much land on the east of the Euphrates still seems to be in the hands of ISIS. Does anyone know if the SDF are still fighting in this area?

John Arterbury‏Verified account @JohnArterbury
22h22 hours ago

Step News map showing latest Islamic State counteroffensive in the lower Euphrates river valley (alleged advances in blue)

KiloGolf wrote:

JohninMK wrote: Wyvern‏ @WyvernReports
Dec 10

#Infographic

The number of #aircraft lost by pro-#Assad forces so far in 2017 across #Syria.

v @SyrianReddit

This is a pro-beardie source and includes airframes of questionable operational status, lost on the ground.

Not bad for mig-21 considering their age, number in use and number of sorties. L-39 must be some destroyed on the ground and I think possibly one mig-21 went same way

At least the SAA and NDF retook it later.

Syrian Army forced to retreat amid new ISIS offensive against Damascus city


https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-forced-retreat-amid-new-isis-offensive-damascus-city/

As commented before, the L-39 is becoming more present lately and is gaining importance for Syria in order to sustain its air campaign, without becoming attractive targets for the Surface-Surface and Surface-Air weapons of their adversaries.

Syria is not having shortage of L-39.

4 of them destroyed in IS suicide attack in Deir Ez Zor airport +2 of them destroyed with ATGM at same airport, and more of them destroyed in US cruiser attack. So overall not bad year for L39.
Also some SUs and MIGs are destroyed in that US attack if i remember.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

kvs wrote:OT:  So the US has exposed the F-22 to full profiling by Russian forces.   Russia now knows the stealth capacity of the F-22 on an
intimate basis after probing it with various EM spectra from multiple aspects.     I guess the Americans are just so full of hubris that
they are literally idiots.  Using the F-22 in the role outlined above is breathtakingly inane.   Just send up some F-18 to do the same
task and don't give away your precious stealth secrets.    

The secret is: there is very little stealth there

Very little, if any!