Syrian War: News #17

calm wrote:

I hope for them russians talked to turks because if they fight leopards 2 with those 4x4 ...

Isos wrote:........
I hope for them russians talked to turks because if they fight leopards 2 with those 4x4 ...

Russians didn't talk to Turks. Russia wants to clear Ghuta before moving on to Idlib and they have no interest in Kurdish shenanigans.

Offer is for Afrin to reintegrate into Syria in exchange for getting Turks to back off and pack up. They don't give a crap about Kurdish independence funny stuff.

What you see in these videos is Iranian little project that will go as well as everything else they did without Russian air-cover.

SAA is now where VKS sent them: Damascus.

Funny how Iran hasn't supplied AD equipment of their own to their Syrian forces. You think they would have by now.

miketheterrible wrote:Funny how Iran hasn't supplied AD equipment of their own to their Syrian forces. You think they would have by now.

They allowed Uncle Sam to permanently park in entire East Euphrates region while they were wasting time all the way next-door to Golan.

We can safely say that Iran is not known for having their priorities sorted out.

First I was like, but then...
https://twitter.com/Syria_Generals/status/966031633911558144

Interesting poll in Turkey..

It looks like Turkey people are not as crazy as their President ERdogan..
in a poll done by a research team... it was found half of the Turkey citizens polled ,
did not support their Government actions in Syria and wants their Government to be neutral
and stay away of it.. and only ~30% of its citizens support Turkey military adventure and
support for terrorist.



This ~30% have to be close number of the real Support ERdogan have in Turkey.
My best guess is that Turkey ,even if it managed to fully control AFRIN , he will face
the same thing that US military had to face in the iraq invasion after they capture all IRAQ.
American troops lost more soldiers to civil armed insurgence and car bombs ,Post invasion ,than
the losses during the invasion of IRAQ.  ERdogan will face endless years of resistance in AFRIN ,
and  thousands of casualties with a major expensive war that will drag Turkey economy..
This is a very risky move ,because Turkey could face its own Free Turkey Army.. and its own rebels
too.. the conditions are there.. for this.. the European Union ,support kurds, Russia too.. and Syria
military is capable to make alliance with them ,whenever interest are the same.

So Afrin could be erdogans vietnam.. a war where americans won all the battles but in the end lost the war.
Because of public opinion and the impact on US economy. Any new leader in Turkey that comes to power
could reverse everything ERdogan have been doing in Syria and call troops back.. and restore relations
with Syria. and Russia is fully aware of this... of Erdogan's very HIGH RISK ,he face in Syria ,of losing the war in
the end.. or even the partition of Turkey from kurdish zones too .. if Kurds began to be heavily armed by foreign players.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43114312

So this story is about a Wagner mercenary that died in Syria and was given 5M rubles in insurance money. It seems to make a big deal about recognition etc. I think its all nonsense. Soldiers have been asked too long to die and have their bodies broken for a piece of tin and parades. Some hard cash is better. They brought his body back, and compensated his family. I don't see how this is not MUCH BETTER then the traditional deal where you get a flag and a "the nations gratitude"

mnztr wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43114312

So this story is about a Wagner mercenary that died in Syria and was given 5M rubles in insurance money. It seems to make a big deal about recognition etc. I think its all nonsense. Soldiers have been asked too long to die and have their bodies broken for a piece of tin and parades. Some hard cash is better. They brought his body back, and compensated his family. I don't see how this is not MUCH BETTER then the traditional deal where you get a flag and a "the nations gratitude"

Gotta love propaganda. Take one or two names, a Bs story of a grieving retard, and blow it up to hundreds dead. No proof or nothing.

hmm why media referring to Academi (Blackwater) are talking about guard, persons who joined,security personnel and in case of Wagner -mercenaries?
Dost it mean you need to shoot thousand defenseless civilians before you are called guard?

GunshipDemocracy wrote:hmm why media referring to Academi (Blackwater) are talking  about guard, persons who joined,security personnel and in case of Wagner -mercenaries?
Dost it mean you need to shoot thousand defenseless civilians before you are called guard?

Double-standard in doublespeak....common tradecraft.

Good for attacking tunnels and fortifications as I understand them.

Qalaat Al Mudiq
‏ @QalaatAlMudiq
43m43 minutes ago

E. #Damascus: apparently thermobaric bombs are now also dropped over E. #Ghouta towns. Dropped by 2 or 4 with parachutes, like in #Lataminah last year.

GarryB wrote:But that is the BBC and they show all sides of the story.... we know because they say they do in their ads.

ok now I am ok if they say... BTW Russian media also use terms "mercenaries" referring to Wagner and "regime" referring to Assad's government. Those journos just translate or had orders not to write Syrian government or Wagner security guards? Strange enough I never saw QElizabeth 2 posse or Micron / Trump regimes. I wonder why

JohninMK wrote:Good for attacking tunnels and fortifications as I understand them.
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Oh, this brings back memories from last year, what was name of that place? Darra or something?

Looks like VKS is in da' house and party is officially on.

Tonight

Urban warfare and thermobaric bombs are a great combination. If you have some hive of terrorists entrenched in apartment blocks these
bombs can suffocate the vermin by consuming the oxygen in confined spaces while at the same time leveling the buildings. Nice to
see the SAA not wasting soldiers and ammunition by trying to dislodge the vermin with old style approaches.

PapaDragon wrote:

Oh, this brings back memories from last year, what was name of that place? Darra or something?

Looks like VKS is in da' house and party is officially on.

Latmina north Hama
compilation

kvs wrote:Urban warfare and thermobaric bombs are a great combination.    If you have some hive of terrorists entrenched in apartment blocks these
bombs can suffocate the vermin by consuming the oxygen in confined spaces while at the same time leveling the buildings.   Nice to
see the SAA not wasting soldiers and ammunition by trying to dislodge the vermin with old style approaches.  

But what about masses of civilians? We know that terrorists are using them as shield.

Resistance forces ( NDF) enter Afrin City center in Syria نیروهای مقاومت واود به عفرین سوریه شدن


Russia Su 57 in Khmeimim Airbase in latakia Syria روسیه سوخو-۵۷ در پایگاه هوایی لاذقیه سوریه

calm wrote:

But what about masses of civilians? We know that terrorists are using them as shield.

Really good analysis from yesterday on precisely that subject and from London as well!

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ghouta-siege-syria-death-toll-civilians-armed-attack-rebel-aleppo-latest-a8221086.html

Kurdish little experiment in Aleppo is officially finished:

''The YPG confirm that all of its positions in Aleppo city were handed over to the SAA in an official statement, says the SAA took over the positions because they had to go defend Afrin''

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/966723745267306496

Interesting view of what might be on the cards. Not my map!


Ali Özkök
‏ @Ozkok_
3h3 hours ago

This is how the the frontline could look like after #Turkey finished operation "Olive Branch" in #Afrin against #YPG. #Syria



Meanwhile this is how it may look today


Qalaat Al Mudiq
‏ @QalaatAlMudiq
4h4 hours ago

#AfrinOp: new map showing current situation. Main advances today aimed to take hill overlooking road (while arrow) linking #Rajo w/ #Afrin-city.

Meanwhile they are still trying to save civilians, as per Aleppo.


Wael Al Hussaini
‏ @WaelAlHussaini
2h2 hours ago

Important
today #SyAAF dropped leaflets on #EastGhouta announcing that the #SAA established a humanitarian crossing points for the civilians, giving them the chance of getting out from the clashes zone